The theory had been presented. Many people seem to think it takes a criminal mastermind to clean blood off a floor and burn evidence in a bonfire. They also believe he wouldn't be dumb enough to hide the victim's car half-assed in his own salvage yard, even though by all accounts he's exactly dumb enough to do just that.

The prosecution in this case couldn't even decide on a single narrative that fit all the evidence. So they presented 2 different theories in 2 separate trials.

Are you saying you know better than them?

I'll settle for who you think did it, no theory.

The prosecution did whatever they wanted. Even after the trial, they claimed that SA raped TH, yet didn't even charge him with that offense.

I'm inclined to think it was a few people who were likely liable in a multi million dollar lawsuit.

Except he didn't clean the blood (or DNA) off the floor. His Blood and DNA (and other people's DNA) was found all over. However TH's and BD's DNA were never found in the trailer or garage.

Your story is a heaping pile of sh*t. It has been from day one. Hence the wild popularity of the documentary.

And bold enough to give a TV interview right next to the bones, calm enough to meet with police and let them search his trailer, and crazy enough to go on vacation.

Ok, so I'm assuming you mean the former sheriff and former DA, who were the only two individuals liable and who would be indemnified by the county - i.e. not personally liable for any payment (barring some absolute bombshell that has never surfaced). In turn, the county was covered by insurance and the insurance companies had no contested this (except for the former sheriff's own home-owner's insurance) and indeed ended up covering the settlement.

Besides the over-exaggerated motive though, is there any evidence that leads you to believe they were the ones involved?

How do you think it was all done? Who was all involved in the murder and the frame-job and how?

PoorSkillz has said he has me on ignore. How is he going to obtain knowledge of any answers?

It's blindingly obvious these are merely rhetorical questions.

I do think Steven is innocent of any crimes against Teresa, for reasons already laid out.

My doubts about the prosecution case are more than reasonable. Unlike the jury in Steven's trial, I know that they couldn't even settle on one theory of the crime - it's blatantly obvious the prosecution doubted its own case!

Exactly how the framing was carried out is something that waits for the results of a thorough investigation, which is what it appears Zellner is engaged in.

It's not clear if the insurance would cover payouts in cases of malice.

They did end up covering the much smaller settlement because the case never proceeded any further due to the 'coincidence' that Steven was charged with serious crimes and needed money ASAP to defend himself.

Otherwise Steven would have ended up with a creep like Len Kachinsky instead of competent lawyers.

Not necessarily. Let me restate: likely personally liable, including the MCSO.


Well, dude, we just don't know.

That's what everyone with an IQ over 10 is trying to figure out in here.

With millions of dollars at stake, I think it's probably as simple as the organization that has a history of being corrupt just hired an unsavory professional they probably knew personally, and that they had SA's phone tapped, and the pro found his opportunity that day.

Obviously this is all standard minimization techniques utilized by shills. There are countless articles and attorneys who have posted on reddit that absolutely destroy everything PooShillz has said here. Feel free to search yourself.

Of course. I entertained his soulless persona in a moment of weakness.

This is simply false. I've explained before:

Do some further reading and you will see that the defendants were clearly going to be indemnified by the county.



Can you give me a reasonable theory (in your opinion) for how it all took place though? Use your imagination to fill in the blanks; just adhere to the known facts, please.

Nah. I don't think you're sincere enough of a human being to respond to anymore than I already have.

Everything about Wisconsin is unique.

***Wisconsin is the only state in which “local” graduates of Wisconsin law schools approved by the American Bar Association (ABA) do not have to take the state bar examination in order to be admitted to the state bar.***

All you have to do is not flunk out of any law school in Wisconsin, and you can start practicing as a lawyer.

The words of someone who tried and failed to think up a reasonable framing theory.

...and they made this guy - who spent more time trying to convince the press and public his client was guilty than he spent with his client -they made this POS a judge!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/len-kachinsky-49021b15

The words of someone profiting off of the exploitation of innocent people and ruined lives based on the beliefs that their lives are of little value to society.

Smart move going to the press and the public. BD isn't voting -- the public does.

I am an attorney and have experience defending big insurance cases. I had already weighed in on my take in this thread.

If you don't want to dig it up, I put the settlement value of the case at around 10 - 15 mm. Trial value would have been substantially higher.

Also, I offered the opinion that individuals would face exposure as well.

Poorshillz is completely wrong on that topic and demonstrates that he or she does not have any idea of how civil litigation or insurance policies work in the real world.

You think its likely that they hired a hit man to not kill SA but instead kill an innocent woman? Why wouldn't they just kill SA?

It's tough to say what goes through the mind of corrupt LE officers in a case like this. I would guess killing SA would seem a little too obvious. Again, we're talking millions of dollars and multiple peoples professions at stake here. Imo, yes, that could bring into play an innocent passerby.

That's the big question, how does TH tie into this? I've always wondered if maybe TH had a one off or short lived affair with someone in LE. I only thought that because someone wrote she was a criminal justice major. I never looked further into it. I don't know.

Far fetched, but their corrupt actions leave pretty much anything in play.

One thing is for sure, burning a body that thoroughly takes some serious work.

Edit- And they wouldn't have had to hire a hit man, just simply contact another unsavory professional within their corrupt organization of LE.

All speculation of course. I hope we find out.