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03-11-2023 , 08:47 PM
bit late but white lotus s1 was so so so totally ok
and white lotus s2 was totally brilliant. what an improvement
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03-11-2023 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Deldar182
bit late but white lotus s1 was so so so totally ok
and white lotus s2 was totally brilliant. what an improvement
Can you articulate why? I've not heard anyone explain it in a way that made sense to me.
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03-12-2023 , 02:19 AM
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Can you articulate why? I've not heard anyone explain it in a way that made sense to me.
I'm not a professional writer reviewer but I'll try and unjumble some thoughts without having read any reviews - massive spoilers ahead;

I think in a way the execution of the show is so smart; the framing device at the start where a dead body washes up is simple and often done, but the show doesn't really seem focused on "working its way backwards" like a mystery/puzzle, but rather to just let these characters lives naturally unfold, and in the back of your head you always remember something sinister is to happen. Imo, the finale is not commensurate with the harbinger, so it's not perfect. I think in a perfect world all the characters lives would intertwine at the end if the story was more well told in a way.

The thing that really does work for me is the diverse characters and the personal explorations. For instance I think Albie is a great example of a "modern male" who has sympathy and modern outlooks (like he struggles to find the line between being too passive and being too aggressive with women), and for instance his "modern" take on sex workers, but it's really complicated because ultimately sex workers are sometimes just in it for the money, and sometimes women like Portia do exist. When you're young it's hard to reconcile that women like that can end up chasing after *******s, but later in life you realise that you don't actually need to be that kind of person to get girls. I think his storyline is a really good example of the classic growing pains in that area while still trying to adopt modern more egalitarian views towards women. Meanwhile his dad and gramps are good contrasts for respectively more outdated approaches to women, but those approaches do also have at least some merit, and I also think navigating the origin of adulterers and why they are the way they are. So I thought that was really interesting - ultimately, portia ending up being the good guy (between her and lucia) is a good twist. I really didn't like her but she didn't do anything wrong.

Then meanwhile in the harper/ethan storyline I think its pretty interesting to contrast two couples where you clearly identify one is just so much less shitty than the others, but at the end they are brought down to eachothers level. What that says to me is it's really easy to stare and point and look down at other peoples ****ed up relationships but not focus on your own, this is a classic example of that.

I think Valentinas story was fine but not too interesting - I think that could have been cut honestly, or made 20 minutes shorter. The thing with the gays - kinda weird, but it was acceptable comic relief. There is something to be said about the exploitation of the ultra wealthy - yeah she's a self absorbed klutz and idiot who's hard to sympathize with, but is this the fate she really deserves? She also has her moments, like when she says to Portia "an arancini costs one dollar", that reminded me of some moments in my life where I thought something was really cool, and a more mature person basically said "wtf is wrong with you".

Reading this back to myself though, I think the show was at its best in the scenes with aubrey plaza/asian ddude/4some, and the prostitutes, and albie. The other storylines were fine enough to keep me interested. Overall, 8-9/10 - for reference, I watched the first season and all I can remember is the guy taking a **** in the other guys suitcase, so I really think this one will stick with me more. Keen to see another season. Probably more of an answer than you bargained for but I have a lot of thoughts about this it turns out!
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03-12-2023 , 02:32 AM
Loving Daisy Jones. At the end of every episode, I’m ready to start the next.
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03-12-2023 , 02:55 AM
Yup! I’m almost positive that I’d have done a full series marathon in one setting if all of the episodes dropped like that.
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03-16-2023 , 02:16 PM
New Ted Lasso season is out. I was excited, started watching and turned it off after ten minutes. It just hit me the wrong way for some reason. Ted has become annoying.
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03-16-2023 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
New Ted Lasso season is out. I was excited, started watching and turned it off after ten minutes. It just hit me the wrong way for some reason. Ted has become annoying.
It went from a 10 to a 7 in 2 seasons. I'm afraid if you're finding it worse than S2. But I fully expected cheese. If S3 is bad, I'll just forever watch S1 alone. There are a lot of shows like that where you just learn where you stop watching (GoT lol, but others too obviously).
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03-16-2023 , 04:44 PM
I plan on waiting for the entire season to drop and knock it out quick.
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03-16-2023 , 06:12 PM
I'm sure it was just my mood...but man, Ted was annoying me.
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03-17-2023 , 06:10 PM
The "you can do it! Believe!!" optimism of Ted Lasso is starting to grate. We don't necessarily need cynicism, just a bit less bubbly enthusiasm.
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03-17-2023 , 06:39 PM
Ted is a nice guy, but if I had to talk to him for more than 5 minutes I would blow my brains out.
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03-17-2023 , 09:55 PM
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The "you can do it! Believe!!" optimism of Ted Lasso is starting to grate. We don't necessarily need cynicism, just a bit less bubbly enthusiasm.
He’s a depressed dude putting on a face. He happens to have charm in spades, so it often works well, but at best he’s just doing the fake-it-till-you-make-it thing, so the show doesn’t strike me as some outright fantasy of positivity.
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03-18-2023 , 08:35 AM
Wow it's hard to fully express how bad episode 1 of S3 of Ted Lasso was.

I'm actually in awe of how putrid it was.
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03-18-2023 , 01:11 PM
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He’s a depressed dude putting on a face. He happens to have charm in spades, so it often works well, but at best he’s just doing the fake-it-till-you-make-it thing, so the show doesn’t strike me as some outright fantasy of positivity.
It's not just Ted. Everyone on the team is buying into this.

I suspect Ted is going to face harsh reality. Rebecca wants to buy new players in order to succeed and that's absolutely right. No way does a team move up the table without selling some of their players and buying better ones. This is where reality and TV drama may collide though, as that would mean getting rid of some of the cast.
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03-18-2023 , 02:49 PM
Everyone being nice and kind and respectful of everyone else is great in real life, but not so great in a TV show. You need drama. Character conflicts, etc.
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03-18-2023 , 09:53 PM
Liaison


Vincent Cassel,Eva Green (several other faces i recognise also)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14792896/

im liking it so far (4 episodes in) cross between Spooks(mi-5 in usa) and la bureau

Mainly english language with french subs also. I think its on Apple tv
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03-18-2023 , 10:01 PM
4 episodes into Daisy Jones and the Six, and I was on the fence about it...like the actors, the songs are good, and Riley Keough is amazing. I'm not sold on Sam Claflin as Billy Dunn, but it's a difficult role...the character is a complete *******.

What sold me on the show was the Hawaii show in episode 4...the two songs they performed together were great...and their voices are magic together.

So I'm not in it for the relationship stuff (although Camila Marrone as Camila is fantastic), I'm in it for the music and the scenes of making music. It was the same with Nashville, but I stopped watching that one because it devolved into a soap opera.

Hope this one stays the course. Using Patti Smith over the opening credits bodes well.

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03-19-2023 , 01:05 AM
Just finished Inside Man - the 2022 vicar one on Netflix.

It was enjoyable, but frustrating in the sense you want the characters to do more reasonable things. It's nice that it was only 4 eps so could get through it quickly.
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03-19-2023 , 01:06 AM
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Liaison


Vincent Cassel,Eva Green (several other faces i recognise also)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14792896/

im liking it so far (4 episodes in) cross between Spooks(mi-5 in usa) and la bureau

Mainly english language with french subs also. I think its on Apple tv
ooooo, don't mind if I do
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03-19-2023 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
4 episodes into Daisy Jones and the Six, and I was on the fence about it...like the actors, the songs are good, and Riley Keough is amazing. I'm not sold on Sam Claflin as Billy Dunn, but it's a difficult role...the character is a complete *******.

What sold me on the show was the Hawaii show in episode 4...the two songs they performed together were great...and their voices are magic together.

So I'm not in it for the relationship stuff (although Camila Marrone as Camila is fantastic), I'm in it for the music and the scenes of making music. It was the same with Nashville, but I stopped watching that one because it devolved into a soap opera.

Hope this one stays the course. Using Patti Smith over the opening credits bodes well.
Yeah, all the stuff in the studio and the live scenes are excellent!! I don’t mind the small doses of relationship **** with the other characters, but not with Billy and Daisy. There’s nothing new there. Even if they never consummate, which would certainly be different, don’t really need to go back and forth there.

Loved eps5 and 6. Haven’t seen episode 8 yet but ep7 was pointless. Could’ve stayed with who they started with and it would’ve been fine but they wasted the 2nd half on basically what we already know.

I’m really curious how they’ll end it, or when, rather. I do like the idea of them releasing the album, going on tour and calling it off for whatever reasons almost immediately. I doubt they have a 2nd album in them with only 2 (3) eps left but who knows.
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03-19-2023 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mesmerized
Liaison


Vincent Cassel,Eva Green (several other faces i recognise also)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14792896/

im liking it so far (4 episodes in) cross between Spooks(mi-5 in usa) and la bureau

Mainly english language with french subs also. I think its on Apple tv
Watched e1 after reading this. I'm in.
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03-19-2023 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mesmerized
Liaison


Vincent Cassel,Eva Green (several other faces i recognise also)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14792896/

im liking it so far (4 episodes in) cross between Spooks(mi-5 in usa) and la bureau

Mainly english language with french subs also. I think its on Apple tv
This genuinely good? I like both actors but the reviews are poor.
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03-19-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mesmerized
Liaison


Vincent Cassel,Eva Green (several other faces i recognise also)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14792896/

im liking it so far (4 episodes in) cross between Spooks(mi-5 in usa) and la bureau

Mainly english language with french subs also. I think its on Apple tv
imdb score must be misleading. I'll try it...
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03-19-2023 , 06:52 PM
ive enjoyed the first 4 episodes. Some plot holes and some silly things happen but its very watchable i will watch more for sure.
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03-20-2023 , 12:39 AM
Luck me. I am enjoying Lucky Hank.
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