A big factor of why I said Firefly first is you can do the entire series in a couple of days then top it off with the Serenity movie.

If you didnt enjoy Firefly or BSG, like if you arent into sci fi, then you dont have to watch them.

If you didnt get into BSG after the mini series and the first three eps of season one then it likely isnt going to improve for you. Firefly I would give a bit more than the pilot (Serenity the episode, not to be mistaken with Serenity the film), the second ep is Train Job iirc and those two eps are probably enough to tell you if you like that show enough to keep watching or not.

Really disappointed by the season premiere of NCIS yesterday. It used to be one of my favorite shows because of the interactions of the characters. But I was bored out of my mind yesterday's show. I think I may have just lost patience for 1 hour dramas.

just finished s1 and first ep of S2 of Luther

I love that show.

Any thoughts on Tosh's new cartoon Brickleberry? I watched the first two episodes and thought they were pretty funny

This is finally coming out February 1st.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/netf...bruary-1-2013/

That sounds amazing.

there were several posts in the fall new show review thread about it:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=134

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=140

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=141

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=208

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=233

Bump in hope for any discussion on the last alphas episode. Scene with Gary at the end is pretty awesome.

I watched the whole season. Last scene was pretty cool. No clue what they are doing. Everyone's dead except Gary?

Beats me, but I want to find out! Unless the show is over? Not sure.

I don't think it's been renewed. I don't think it's been officially ended either yet.

Good season, good finale, really confusing ending. The show has no chance at getting renewed, so...that was it.

You know how on Tosh.0 he makes fun of Comedy Central shows that have been cancelled? He'll be doing it for Brickleberry next season. No way it gets renewed for a 2nd season. It's HORRIBLE.

wtffff. Show was great this season and that's just the weirdest ending ever if that's it. I don't know what to think.

I liked the Alphas finale...I'll be mildly upset if it doesn't come back.

Last season, the show barely got renewed with significantly higher ratings (once you drop below a certain point, even .1 is significant). This season, it's just been a disaster, as they're having a hard time even pulling in a million viewers with only a 0.4 on average in the 18-49 demo (I think a 0.6 with a lot of viewers, or a 0.7 with whatever viewers are what it needed for renewal, and it didn't get there). I think shows like this don't do as well with a year break in between seasons, and I did think there was kind of a moderate sized drop off in quality from season 1 to season 2.

I thought it was a very good show, overall, and am really disappointed that its ratings couldn't stay up where it was last season. Even the finale barely upticked in the ratings from previous weeks. With the long arc they built in at the end of the season, it was pretty clear they were sort of leading it up to an ending that, at the very least, would have had to have a huge re-boot for a season 3 (no Dr. Rosen just wouldn't work for me, I don't think).

I think they wanted to make the audience wonder what happened, and wanted to leave it at least a little open for another season. To me, (just because this is in a general thread, I'm going to put this in spoiler)

They said earlier in the ep that normals die but alphas don't (including the tiny % of normals that are turned into alphas), so all the alphas in Grand Central Station should wake up, possibly with juiced up powers.

As for why Gary stayed awake, I think it's just that his brain is already conditioned to receive odd EM input so he didn't suffer the same sort of overload that other alphas did.

Finally, isn't there an Alphas thread somewhere? Not that it really matters if the show is cancelled.

Alphas: I thought season 1 >> season 2. I didn't like the long arc they did this year. It would be kind of spectacular if everyone died except for Gary and there was a season 3 somehow.

I haven't seen an Alphas thread, it hasn't generated much interest on here. I think maybe 5 or 6 of us watch it.

I'll list a couple of important points about the event that happened. Yes, it was supposed to be that the non-alphas die, and the alphas go on steroids. However, if you paid attention to the confrontation between Stanton and Dr. Rosen, it seemed as if Stanton was about to hand the torch to Dr. Rosen, and that he had figured out how to die. My guess is that if you are too close to that giant pulse of light you couldn't make it. There's no way to spin it not being a really weird ending, and this show would have known since episode 1 of season 2 that it wasn't going to make it. I have no idea whether the show was completely in the can before season 2 started airing.

In the future, I think people will sit back and just say "hmmm" about the ending. It was really confusing, and, knowing that the show was getting canceled, it just leaves you wondering what the hell happened, and what would have gone on if there had been a season 3. Any season 3 with Rosen would have been a mistake, based on his arc, and I don't know how the show could exist without him. Well, it won't...so I just have to end on...hmmmm.

Alphas: The Summer of Gary!
Alphas season 3: When Gary Ruled The World!

LOL

What if it was all just a dream in Gary's autistic world?

It really reminded me of The Twilight Zone episode with Burgess Meredith, the book reader, breaking his glasses. Not sure why, because there wasn't a moment like that for Gary.

I can imagine that meeting:

"Hey remember the ending of St. Elsewhere??"
"Yeah"
"Let's do it again!"
"Didn't like everyone hate it?"
"Yep, but that was 25 years ago. Who's gonna remember?"
"OK, let's go for it!!"

I always hated that one. I am pretty significantly blind without my glasses on but I often read without them. I mean, worst case scenario is he would have to hold the book 2 inches from his face. It would be uncomfortable, but he'd still be able to read. Now, finding food and shelter and stuff might be nearly impossible so he'd probably die pretty quickly, but that wasn't the point of the episode.

Any way you slice it, it was a very weird ending. I would like to know what it meant, but I didn't have the pure hate for this one that I did for Awake.

Do you remember what Burgess Meredith's glasses looked like? His eyes were the same size as the lenses when looking at him. I don't know if he could see 2 inches in front of his face. I'm similarly blind to you, but I would literally have to hold the Kindle no more than a foot from my face to see it clearly. I think my vision is something like 20/800. I have to be less than a foot away from my 17" laptop to be able to see this type clearly...lol.

Not all normal people would die, some with unactivated abilities would activate.

Gary being completely unaffected by the lights and just watching everyone else fall over was great.

I hope the show gets renewed. I dont care that its really really unlikely - someone out there with some power has to think about giving it a chance. I also thought season two was better than season one and the long arc with Parish was great.

If nothing else I want Ryan Cartwright to score something huge after this. His portrayal of Gary and his autism is outstanding, I have had to look him up a couple of times just to check he isnt actually autistic. That he was never showered with acting awards was a travesty.

Actually, the radius of people affected was really small. Remember, they shut down the devices everywhere except where that grid was, and they even shut down a bunch of that. The people in the train station and immediate areas around train stations probably died (or whatever was on that grid), but the plot was mostly averted. I think Stanton died, and knew he would, being that close. Remember, the first time they showed that happening, it knocked out the alpha it affected, and then they would eventually wake up with enhanced abilities. Being right on top of a huge ground zero would be too much for most of them to survive, in my opinion. I haven't looked for any interview explanations yet about the finale, but I'm pretty sure they knew they weren't coming back when they did it, and Dr. Rosen was definitely going to die.

It would be among the biggest miracles ever for the show to be renewed. It lost audience from season 1 to season 2, and it was a pins and needles renewal last season. It also didn't have the promotional saturation that it did prior to airing (they would show ads for it on USA all the time) the first season.

I personally didn't like so much tension and fraying around the edges for the unit from season 1 to season 2. The relationships were always the best thing about the show to me (especially Bill and Gary), so I definitely preferred season 1 to season 2, though I still thoroughly enjoyed season 2, even with blond Keanu. There really shouldn't have even been a war or a Parish. If you think about how the show was originally done, it was basically Dr. Rosen giving alphas group therapy by having them help him find other misbehaving alphas that he could try to help. It was really unique in the genre, but this season really was just like every other thing I've seen in the genre (though they still had the minivan), with a giant battle of good and evil.

Ryan Cartwright's real voice is pretty surprising, as in the one interview I heard with him he has a ridiculous accent, like the difference between Damian Lewis on Homeland and Damian's real life voice.