A big part of Jesse always ****ing up though was his addiction right? He also lost his family and his emo chick, and really doesn't have anything else to lose anymore. Now that he's clean and has "accepted his role as a bad guy", as he said an episode or two ago, isn't it possible that he can really step his game up?

+1

If truth be told, I have three other scenarios that are each 80% likely to be correct, but I went with the one that is 100% likely. IMO.

That conceded, I think there is a better chance that Jesse produces meth that kills people than that he produces killer meth.

eta: Wait, wait, there's more. If Jesse succeeds, then it will be the last thing he does-- the brothers will take him while they wait for Walt to come available.

wat?

See if you were smart enough to like Mad Men more than BB, you'd get that my 100% lock is tongue in cheek. I'm working with chimps here.

tl;dr. I'm just kidding around. Here and above. No insult intended.

anyone watch the Vince Gilligan interviews about each episode on amctv.com? On the last one he talks about how he thinks a lot of the audience is going to hate Skylar after Ep. 3. But he backs her up saying that "you have to put yourself in her shoes" etc. But I am putting myself in her shoes and I still hate her, I mean yea sure her husband has been lying to her doing some absurdly illegal ****, but he's recently been diagnosed w/ terminal lung cancer. If there was ever a reason to give some leeway for cooking meth this would be it. Its not like he's selfishly trying to put together some scratch to buy a lambo and some jet skis, he's trying to support his family after he's gone.

I mean **** Walt comes clean, puts everything on the table, and explains his intentions. Think a loving wife could at some point move past the fact actions are illegal, unethical, and dangerous b/c he was put into an impossible situation and did what in his mind was the only way to provide for his family.

Instead she does the bitchiest thing humanely possible and pulls that I.F.T.

Would it be results oriented thinking to revisit this after Walter Jr, the baby, her sister, and/or her brother-in-law get killed in the cross fire?

ya thats exactly what i was trying to say, just wait it out if your her, she brings so much more turmoil to her family now even if she thinks walt deserves it
edit: to mirees post

Also what do people think about the inconsistancy of hating walt for doing something illegal when shes ****s someone who trys to manipulate there companies records. I mean hes basically doing the exact same thing, making money illegally ( although in a different way). and Ted explains the reason he cheats the books is the same as walters, for his family. It doesnt make sense, if she was to cheat wouldnt it be with some goody goody person. Makes her look like a dumb slut imo.

Is it the general consensus that she's more angry at the possibility that her family will be brought into the dangers of the drug world, or that Walt has been lying and breaking laws?

IMO its the latter. I don't think she's putting much stock into the possibility that ppl are after Walt/her family may get caught in the crossfire.

totally agree. thought about this after hearing Vince Gilligan defend Skylar. He obviously incorporated the illegal accounting for a reason, I thought he was setting her up to have some level of understanding for Walt's actions. But then she goes completely in the other direction and shows zero (actually below zero) compassion.

Well, I think you are right about that. I see it as her answer to: "Think about what I did and why I did it. It was all for you and the kids and see if you can forgive me."

i think she has just been looking for an excuse to **** ted for awhile now, she's definitely got some selfish/self-destructive type stuff going on in her head. she wasn't smoking while pregnant and in the same room as her baby to get back at walt for selling meth

I think the IFT part might be Skylar hitching her wagon to a new pony, after Walt laid out his blood money. Telling her that she has to accept it and what he's done, for the kids (Walt Jr. especially) after he's gone, because she can't earn for herself as a "part-time bookkeeper". Though as others have been pointing out, she's had the moral highground the entire series until the last two episodes, where she's "Broken Bad" herself. I don't know if she's getting back at Walt, accepting the lesser evil in phony accounting and cheating on her husband, or setting her up for a huge "Bad" turn.

They've really been setting up this idea the whole way that there's been so much collateral damage in the wake of Walt's actions. Jesse already became a bad guy, Jane died, her dad caused the plane crash, several people have been killed/gone to jail, and so on. Maybe now it's finally going to really affect his family, turning his wife into a "Bad" person. Kids next?

It's hard to believe that Skylar ever loved Walt when she shuts him out of her and her kids' lives without even giving Walt a chance to justify himself. He may have made mistakes, but he did it purely for his family. It wasn't something he wanted to do or something that was easy to do, it was a difficult decision he made for the well being of his family. And so far in the series, he hasn't done anything immoral. All of his killings have been in self defense. Methamphetamine is probably not a net benefit to society, but it is bought voluntarily by its users; he is not responsible for the self-destructive actions of its users. At least he provides the relatively drug in its safest form - uncut, pure. For Skylar to now do this to him is incomprehensible. Looking forward to her demise.

Ok, put yourself in her shoes. How have they portrayed her in this series? I can see why you/I/Walt might see it that way, but do you really think that there's any way that she would be cool with him being a drug manufacturer? C'mon man!

Why couldn't he tell her his plan, initially? It is all for her, right?

And many times along the way she caught him lying and begged him to come clean and threatened him that more lies meant he would lose her-- And what did he do? And why didn't he come clean?

No obviously she's not cool w/ him being a drug dealer. But considering his life/current situation (got cut out of a business based on his research, as a result is grinding away at a HS for 45k/yr, and doesn't have long to live) I'd figure she'd at least show some level of understanding. Her reaction to his confession is purely spiteful and filled w/ hate. I would expect a loving wife to be more hurt and sad by this instead of resentful. She's acting like shes in one of those volatile abusive relationships that should've ended in divorce 5 years ago but didn't. She was (and still is) married to a mild mannered good man who only wants the best for his family no matter what it takes.

I understand she feels betrayed as Walt has been lying to her, but besides that does she really have some sort of serious ethical dilemma w/ Walt providing illegal substances to the local area? I honestly don't think so, her main gripe is the lying and her reaction to this is wayyy overboard. He lies and breaks the law she completely shuts him off of her life and to a certain extent her kids lives, asks for a divorce, and cheats on him. Seems slightly unbalanced, right?

It's a commentary on the thinking of the average person. Most people would think the same thing about Walt, because they always think anyone involved with drugs is bad. They also usually don't have a problem with forging numbers, because it doesn't have as bad a connotation, even though it's just as illegal and often times done for the same reasons as being involved in the drug industry.

I really wish there was some sort of minimum IQ test people had to take before posting ITT.

Excellent post. My thoughts exactly.

Let me start by saying that I've never hit a woman in my life, but if this had happened to me and she gloated about it in my face, I'd have a hard time not punching her in the face.

You don't get to be the victim when you continue to lie after you are caught and after you are repeatedly warned that the lies are destroying your bond. You don't get to keep reaching for the bottom, and expect the other person to wait for you to touch it. You don't get to say you did it for the other person. He is the one who broke the marriage. Who she ****s and why is her business. She can build a relationship on whatever terms she and whoever is next, whether Walt, Ted, or someone else agree to. But Walt destroyed the relationship they had.

He tells her the truth after she finally makes good on her promise. He tells the truth when it is the only card he has left. How that is supposed to engender empathy is mysterious to me, when it as likely a sign that his devolution to being a sociopath is complete as it is to indicating he has been positively transformed.

He thought he would be dead at this point and he wanted her to be completely innocent of any wrongdoing.

Here's a link to a good blog I read about the show each week:

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2010/0...kiss-cook.html