Just wanted to point these 2 out cause they hit right on the head.

I can't believe they developed hank and had alot of focus on him then just dropped it.

Walt's story was a bit slower then, so they developed Hank. Then Badger got picked up/Saul/4 days out/Gus, so lots of stuff in Walt's world going on. I'm sure there will be a good story arc for Hank in Season 3.

hyperbole much.
Good thing your personal theology is relevant to arcs in fiction.

Is there any significance in why Walter Jnr chooses the name Flynn? I feel like iv missed it.

It was almost as bad as 9/11.

Middle name amirite?

^^ok thats pretty good

I thought the message of this series was going to be, reform health care, but, now I think it is more about kharma. . . or you reap what you sow. After all, Walt would be $100,000.00 in debt without the meth manufacturing, assuming he didn't take that other job with the "health benefits", although I'm not sure how realistic that is, I would bet Teachers are covered by their plans, while I would not be sure about El Pollo Loco workers being covered......... and many others.


The whole thing in relation to actual street drug traffic is pretty unrealistic IMO. Tuco was probably more realistic than any of the other players, and he met his fate as a zoned out hot head. Gus being a major dealer in Meth and a major owner in restaurants is less realistic than a poker player being a major restaurant owner and manager. I think the reason people are Meth dealers (or poker players) is b/c they just can't or don't want to make it as a Restaurant owner--worker or any other legitimate enterprise, etc.

99% of Meth Dealers, as all criminals, are not real smart and most involved in Meth are not even Fully Sane. At least poker players are usually smart, but, they are probably not going to be the type to get into the work involved in actively managing a group of restaurants. And as a illegal Meth Dealer it is much more far fetched to be in legitimate business. Then again I am really out of touch with the Meth Dealing universe, but, haven't ever heard of a legit businessman getting busted for that. Why get involved in such high risk, no hope enterprises, as Meth Dealing if you have potential to make large amounts of money in legitimate business? Or is Gus in some large Organized Criminal Organization that would be able to withstand the scrutiny of being a major criminal and a major business owner? Otherwise, you're just better off with only a suitcase and a gun and no legit ties whatsoever, like the song, house of the rising sun.

I don't understand why everyone is all butthurt about the ending. This really can't be the first time you've experienced audience misdirection. Yes, your ******edly obvious guess(OMG I BET SOME OTHER DRUG DEALERS SHOT WALT) was wrong. Cope

The only reason he was able to build the restaurant chain was probably because of meth (supplying, dealing) revenues.

The restaurant is a front, i would think that fronts are very common, if not a necessity, for people that got rich through illegal means.

Just because most meth dealers are ****ups doesn't mean all meth dealers are ****ups. Presumably the handful of non-****up meth dealers can dominate the industry. Restaurants and bars are pretty standard fronts because of their cash nature.

My limited understanding of the real world is that the Mexican organized crime cartels(non-****ups) are crushing random morons cooking their own(****ups). American organized crime(Mafia, Russians, urban gangs) were geographically not in the right place to get involved in the meth trade, so the random ****ups were able to thrive for a while without dealing with intelligent competition.

Yeah, you're right. That is why people hate the ending.

This post is so full of fail it's impressive!

OK so you thought a show called "Breaking Bad" about a dying chemistry teacher turning into a meth dealer would have health care reform as it's main underlying theme?


His initial reasoning for cooking meth was to leave money for his family after he was gone, not to just cover medical bills. This was even restated at the beginning of season 2 when he said he wanted to get to $737,000 to leave his family. I also can't wait for the riveting storyline in season 3 about the health care benefits (or lack thereof) of El Pollo Loco employees!

Generalize much?

I'm sure your vast experience in the world of dealing meth can tell us this for a fact. Given your screen name and the lack of rational thought in this post, I'm inclined to think you may actually have plenty of prior experience with meth. If this is the case it would make for a great thread "ITT ask me anything about doing meth."

Granted I don't have any personal knowledge of dealing or buying drugs on this scale either, but I do know that watching "The Wire" doesn't make one an expert on what real-life drug dealers are like.


Do you REALLY think that the chicken came 1st so to speak? We don't know much about Gus but I don't think his back story includes a stable childhood and college education leading to him starting a chicken business and dealing meth to grow his business. Or is it more probable Gus bought a few franchises as a cover for his real occupation giving him legit reasons to travel his territory as well as a way to launder drug money?


Sure once he bought the businesses he could run them legitimately but that is not who he is. As Gilligan said in the interview that has been linked here several times "Gus knows who he is and he will lie to others to keep up his public image, he won't lie to himself"

"the thing that is absolutely unforgivable is the black and white foreshadowing scenes that we were forced to watch all season long. The body bags, the busted up car, and the guys in biohazard suits. To use such a clear foreshadowing device on the viewer and then have it turn out to be something so completely unrelated to the story is absolutely atrocious. "

"The problem with the ending that is turning most people off isn't that it was unrealistic; it's that it was a bait and switch. They teased you all season with shots that would lead any normal person to believe that something bad was going to happen at Walt's house that involved him or his family or other people we know.

If you had the plane crash without the teases it would have been fine. "

That one got a "well said" ITT.

I'm reading your comment as sarcasm, and if I'm right on that, I think it is pretty clear that is exactly why people hate the ending.

Their tiny little ****** brains are angry because the show isn't turning out exactly the way they predicted. They wanted the positive reinforcement of "figuring something out" and instead they got "the question" wrong.

I didn't like the ending because it sucked.

How insightful!

It isn't about them being wrong, it's about awful storytelling. It's about being hit over the head with the least subtle preachy message ever. It's about a ******ed and inexcusable plot device that stretched an entire season. These are all things that are the opposite of what fans of the show expect.

I just can't fathom how people aren't bothered by the ending. It is basically the opposite of what everyone likes about the show. I mean Christ, will next season end with Jesse becoming an informant and the season ending with him looking out the window while a rat walks across the screen?

please god be a level. if not, you have either done too many drugs or no drugs in your life.

Dude, I'm pretty sure most people hate the ending because it would never happen and is completely ridiculous. This isn't an episode of "Heroes".

I am way too lazy to read through the pages of pages of reflection on the season finale -- already read a lot until I realized just how many posts there were to go through.

After reading the writer's explanation, the finale is great. Absolutely fantastic. It wouldn't be Breaking Bad at all if they gave the viewer exactly what they expected -- a super obvious "dramatic" finale. And like someone said earlier, you guys are seriously overrating the "finale." It's just another chapter in the show.

The ending is similar to when a director chooses to use a dream in their storytelling, so frustrating and weak sauce. It kinda went one step further like Franchise 60 says about teasing us all season long. They should have ended with Skyler (hottie) leaving Walt. That being said the eps was great.

So curious about:
a)the relationship btw Walt; Gus and Jesse P
b)When the camera crew, the general public, finds out that he is close to fully paid for his treatments.
c) the eventual show down btw Hank S and heisenberg

Great show and big ups to the filming in New Mexico and the music score.

How is skyler a hottie? If that's sarcasm, it's kind of a weird spot to use it.

btw means 'by the way'. use b/w for 'between'.

cheers

agree completely. i feel the same way after sopranos, initially i was pissed, but after reading the explanation i thought it was the best ending a series could have.

Couldn't agree more. The setup was great, loved the ending, De Lancie was really good in the final scenes, and Skylar finally telling Walt to clear off, that was one of the best scenes of the series right there.

Great ending, great series, can't wait for season 3.