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12-23-2014 , 11:05 PM

#5951

NDfan

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lol, true...but I'd get what I can for him now

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12-23-2014 , 11:06 PM

#5952

danvh

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Trying. Hop onto like Google and we can 3 way deal him to muck

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12-23-2014 , 11:12 PM

#5953

NDfan

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I'm just on mobile now, won't let me. But def up for that another day

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12-23-2014 , 11:16 PM

#5954

danvh

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All about the hangout app haha

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12-23-2014 , 11:24 PM

#5955

GTBMuckface

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ya man get google hangouts app

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12-24-2014 , 12:03 AM

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I don't want Machado ****ing up my team chemistry, intangibles yo.

I've got a deeper farm system than either of these amateurs Muck, so let me know if you want to ship that pick.

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12-26-2014 , 05:43 PM

#5957

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Open to shipping out prospects for a top 50 MLB bat with at least two to three years on the contract.

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12-27-2014 , 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Exitonly

i looked up the vote and it was 10% increases going forward, i assumed that was just everything not only on new contracts. pain in the ass to have to track which contracts would be old/new anyhow. but could if thats how we actually voted.

Definitely not retroactive, since people had been dealing players under the 5% assumption. I think I mentioned at one point that this would be annoying, so sorry about that.

I'm not sure exactly how you're handling the salary escalation, but at least it's a pretty hard condition based on the player's contract year. If contract year <= (current year - 2014), escalate by 10%. Else 5%.

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12-27-2014 , 03:05 PM

#5959

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Touche.

Well today is no good for me, and tomorrow likely isn't either, but i'll get that added in next couple of days. It actually isnt much of a pain in the ass at all.

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12-27-2014 , 03:14 PM

#5960

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Originally Posted by Levarkin

Definitely not retroactive

Can you please cite where this appears in the thread?

My understanding is the 10% annual increase would apply to all future salaries, for all contracts in effect for the 2015 season.

EDIT: I found where this was mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Levarkin

Cool. Agree with those dates. In the meantime, debate and implement any rule changes? On the table:

-10% salary increases (grandfathered, maybe starting next year)
-Salary floor next year for high-salary mid-season drops
-Minor-leaguers in real-life majors must be called up if traded, even if they're still on the owner's minor-league roster

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And the 10% salary increases kick in next season. All contracts signed then will be subject to 10% increases; all prior contracts will still increase at 5% until expired.

These were in relation to the survey that was used to vote on the 10% increase. However, I did not see any record of anyone other than Levarkin making this statement and the "grandfather" clause was not actually described in the survey itself.

Are there any strong objections to grandfathering existing contracts at 5% and applying the 10% to all new contracts starting in 2015?

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12-28-2014 , 01:54 AM

#5961

NDfan

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I'm fine with it either way.

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12-28-2014 , 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pecota

Are there any strong objections to grandfathering existing contracts at 5% and applying the 10% to all new contracts starting in 2015?

No. That's how it assumed it would work. That said it doesn't matter much to me either way.

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12-29-2014 , 04:04 PM

#5963

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Hmm, you're right, I didn't put any reference to the grandfathering into the survey. My bad.

Anyway, I don't want to cause trouble for Exit et. al, or be annoying about it or anything, grandfathering just seems like the fairest implementation. But I can understand it being scrapped if it ends up being really annoying.

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12-29-2014 , 04:06 PM

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Also, I dunno, maybe it doesn't affect existing contracts too much at all and isn't worth worrying about. Haven't really analyzed the magnitude of the impact. If it's easily doable, I think we should do it. If not, no worries. Trust Exit/Pecota's assessment 100%.

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12-29-2014 , 04:36 PM

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I'm fine with it being grandfathered, I just honestly thought it was across the board, hence my skepticism.

I posted the above for transparency's sake and to make sure anyone who wanted to speak up had the chance to do so. Seems like we're good though.

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12-29-2014 , 05:25 PM

#5966

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grandfathering makes most sense to me even if it doesnt have a huge impact, and it wont be a big deal at all to deal with. i'll get it implemented tonight some time.

i like how it adds to trade value of the old contracts. new dynamics always fun.

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12-30-2014 , 01:08 PM

#5967

NDfan

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Is Karak being replaced? If so we should prob start that process soon.

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12-30-2014 , 02:50 PM

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alekhine8

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Only if the new owner is required to keep Dan Haren at $197.

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12-30-2014 , 05:22 PM

#5969

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Karak: sets up dynasty league, doesn't make it five years. Sigh.

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12-30-2014 , 07:44 PM

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Karak secretly wants to move his team to Florida.

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12-30-2014 , 09:54 PM

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Karak: sets up dynasty league, doesn't make it five years. Sigh.

real life happens sometimes

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12-30-2014 , 09:58 PM

#5972

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Only if the new owner is required to keep Dan Haren at $197.

Well they may only keep 2 players, at least thats what I see.

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01-01-2015 , 01:39 PM

#5973

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real life happens sometimes

Not in my experience.

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01-08-2015 , 11:58 PM

#5974

alekhine8

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By the way do I owe $100 for 2016 to someone? Got some Paypal monies and figured I'd check

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01-09-2015 , 04:36 PM

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By the way do I owe $100 for 2016 to someone? Got some Paypal monies and figured I'd check

Yes, I haven't collected for 2016 but haven't gotten around to it.

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