I am sure you think you are hilarious. Feel free to pat yourself on the back.

Im an atheists that's all we do all day. Pat ourselves on the back and think about how we know it all and rule everything.

Dude, I agree with most of what you're saying, but you're shooting yourself in the foot with stuff like this:

There are approx 100 billion stars (each with many planets) in ONE galaxy, and approx 100 billion galaxies in the known universe. Given this information, the probability of life is 100%,...

This does not make the probability of life (outside our planet) 100%. It makes it almost certain, but it's still not 100%. DUCY?

and the probability of complex life is extremely likely.

Define complex. As intelligent as we are? Here, I might be persuaded to say likely, but not extremely likely. Consider that it's only happened once out of tens of millions of species currently living and perhaps billions before this. It is very possible that intelligence as we define it might be very rare indeed even given the huge numbers we have to play with.

One of your many false statements.

Conspiracy to murder is a serious crime.

This really hasn't been shown either. We could be below some of the other animals in intelligence but we just happen to better with our thumbs. I mean we most likely have the smartest brain but until i see the test scores of a sperm whale im still not so sure.

Wow, this thread is unbelievable. I made it through the first page and some of the other. I don't have much to say other than two things.

1. This is one of the reasons I still post here. The posts of the regular atheists ITT is very commendable.

2. Butcho, yes I most certainly agree that Aaron W is much smarter than me.

This thread was actually kind of funny.

I don't see why it is being allowed to stay open over a wager on an IQ test though.

Interesting. I'd love to get into this further since I find such topics interesting, but it would be a huge derail. But I'll just say this for now...

There are some commonly accepted methods of measuring brain volume. I agree with you that this doesn't necessarily say that our kind of intelligence is superior. Anyone who knows about bat echolocation understands what an amazingly complex process that is. Their brains are much higher developed in certain areas than ours. But I highly doubt that sperm whales have developed such advanced intelligence that they are contemplating religious world views.

I don't really know enough about the subject to get into it except that they have big brains we dont know much about. And im sure im way out there on a limb but i dont know for sure whales dont think about the God questions. Probably not but who knows.

I do think there might of been other animals who did think about the bigger questions and came kind of close to us. I would guess some of the other hominid species who had tools, jewelry, graves, possible grave goods and lived in complex social environment might of thought about some of the, who am i, why im i here stuff. Its just a guess again but i dont think its to far fetched.

Are we the most intelligent thing on earth past and present, yeah most likely. But i dont think we're lapping the competition as much as we think we're.

Just wanted to stop by and say that there is a regular theist poster that no one has mentioned (AFAIK) that is smarter than RLK and Aaron W.

Also SecondChance is likely a troll/gimmick account, but einbert really embarrassed himself in this thread.

So how come no one has answered my question about heaven yet?

No, actually it does make it 100%. The fact is there's like a 30% chance that there's life in our solar system. I mean, I guess if you want to be extremely technical, the chance is like 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999%

And clearly you know nothing about probability if you think otherwise

And no, complex life doesn't have to be as intelligent as humans...I'd say a good definition of "complex" life is anything that communicates with a language, e.g. humans 3000 or so years ago

Actually, he was one of the few people who didn't embarrass himself in this thread...I guess stupid people have a different perspective than I do

100% imo - if you mean chance of life in a solar system like ours, I would guess lower but I doubt there is hard evidence either way since I presume we have no way of telling if there is life in other solar systems.

holy **** this thread is an abomination lol

+1

The more SecondChance talks, the more I think his IQ test bet is going to be easy money for someone.

I went to NYU Stern for Finance and Statistics, does that count? Rated as #2 for undergrad finance recruiting.

Educate yourself about statistics, please

lol @ iq tests for rolls. being an atheist or theist is likely to have no factor in determining the answer to the question you want second chance.

anyway, to breath new life into the thread, a british televised debate about whether the catholic church is a force for good in the world (including a prominant member of the british parliament arguing for the motion)... is a worthy watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuzYwzGoXw

Bigpooch?

Ding! Obviously I'm not sure of this, but Sklansky thinks so and that's good enough for me.

Edit: Also last time I saw Bigpooch post he mentioned that he memorized the first 100 digits of pi on a bus ride home as a kid, and still remembers them.

So still how come no one has answered my question about heaven? I'll ask it again

Do flies go to heaven? Cats? Dogs? Fish? Apes? At what point did humans evolve so they just stopped dying and started going to heaven?

What about life on other planets? Do they go to the same heaven or different heaven? What about life slightly more complex than humans? Slightly less complex?

Wait...There is no type of religious book at all where your from?

What planet were you from again?