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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
"Absence of, or rejection of, belief in the existence of gods."
Havin' trouble with the word 'or' there, lew? That's okay, we can go again.
"...also defined more broadly as an absence of belief in deities..."
Maybe 'more broadly' is what's tripping you up? Never mind, I'm confident you can manage the last one:
"Atheism. Either the lack of belief in a god, or the belief that there is none."
But hey, for all I know you're camped outside 'gas' stations with a placard saying "IT'S A LIQUID! DON'T BELIEVE THEIR LIES!" Some people just have problems that way.
But in case you're interested, 'agnostic' derives from the ancient Greek 'gnosis', meaning 'knowledge'. In modern parlance it refers to claims of knowledge about god. I do not claim to have knowledge about god, and I consider it at least currently impossible for anyone to have objectively verifiable proof of a god - so I am indeed, as you say, and as I have continuously affirmed, an agnostic. On the other hand, I don't have a belief in a deity, so - per the definitions pasted above, which you seem to have had so much trouble understanding - I'm also an atheist. It's really not that hard.
"The belief that there are no gods." Based on this definition, which I "believe," you are not atheist, right?
It's annoying that you're starting to act like a dick when I feel like you are doing exactly what you're accusing me of. You're hiding behind bs definitions that nobody uses on the planet except, apparently, people in this forum. My definition is above and based on what you've stated, you're an agnostic and not an atheist.
To quote another (brilliant) poster in this thread, why do YOU care what I label you anyway? I'm just some moron who is dumb enough to believe that the evidence suggests to me that it is more likely that there is a God than that there is not a God. I'm not worth your time.
Last edited by lew189; 06-22-2010 at 08:59 PM.