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06-18-2010 , 06:11 PM

#101

SecondChance

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Originally Posted by Butcho22

Well then you are an idiot.

You don't get it. Believing in God cannot be compared to any other theory you're referring too.

Macro-evolution is the only other theory I can think of that is even close to being on the same playing field, but even that isn't the same.

These smart theists I'm referring to agree with 99.99999% of the theories agreed upon by the scientific community. (sorry that's vague, but hopefully you catch my drift.)

They are able to suspend logic and reasoning for this one issue. It doesn't change the fact that they are smart.

Maybe we should take a step back....Give us your definition of "smart", please.

Of course it can be..all are theories that once were accepted, but now are considered absurd. The problem with your statement is, people who are smart enough to agree with 99.99999% of science are also smart enough to not just randomly go on some absurd leap for the other .00001%.

I agree that there are some exceptions out there, but as I said before, show me ONE generalization that is more accurate than the generalization "theists are stupid". Just one

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06-18-2010 , 06:12 PM

#102

RLK

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Originally Posted by Butcho22

I would say the poster in question is being incredibly stubborn. I still cannot put any atheist I've yet to come across in the same category as Gunth or Splendour.

However, I do admit that I've yet to know enough about, say, the OP of this thread, to rule out that he's on their level.

I hope this doesn't come off as me refusing to admit I'm wrong. Splendour has been here for years, and Gunth has many many posts in this forum compared with OP. I need more time, but I will admit that it's a possibility to your point has some merit.

Hopefully that's a good compromise for now.

For my part, I can accept that.

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06-18-2010 , 06:14 PM

#103

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As for my definition of "smart", there are multiple types (ability to think logically, ability to absorb information, knowledge, and some others that I might be forgetting). Clearly, I'm talking about the ability to think logically and form rational arguments, and ability to absorb information

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06-18-2010 , 06:16 PM

#104

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

People who think sweeping generalizations are anything other than a logical fallacy are stupid.

There ya go.

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06-18-2010 , 06:19 PM

#105

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SecondChance is even more condescending and annoying than Pletho. And he doesn't even have the excuse of being brainwashed by the Bible. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!?

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06-18-2010 , 06:21 PM

#106

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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03

People who think sweeping generalizations are anything other than a logical fallacy are stupid.

There ya go.

Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber

Btw, why are you trying to back out of my IQ challenge? I'm willing to go anywhere from 500-5k, so let me know and let's set this up. Maybe we can get a group to bet against me?

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06-18-2010 , 06:22 PM

#107

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03

Just admit it. RLK is bang on.

I just can't at this point in time. Gunth in particular is just so dumb that I can't put OP in the same boat (even the same ocean lol) over this one thread.

If you have links to other threads/posts where he shows the same inability to reason feel free to link me to them.

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06-18-2010 , 06:23 PM

#108

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Originally Posted by Butcho22

Or maybe you're just so dumb that you don't know what logic and reasoning is even when it slaps you on the face?

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06-18-2010 , 06:26 PM

#109

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Of course it can be..all are theories that once were accepted, but now are considered absurd. The problem with your statement is, people who are smart enough to agree with 99.99999% of science are also smart enough to not just randomly go on some absurd leap for the other .00001%.

I agree that there are some exceptions out there

That's not the stance you've been taking this entire thread.

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, but as I said before, show me ONE generalization that is more accurate than the generalization "theists are stupid". Just one

black people like purple drank

(taken from a famous comedian obviously. this has nothing to do with what I've been discussing with you.)

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06-18-2010 , 06:26 PM

#110

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Originally Posted by SixT4

SecondChance is even more condescending and annoying than Pletho. And he doesn't even have the excuse of being brainwashed by the Bible. HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!?

Because he is one of the least intelligent people that have ever participated in this forum.

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06-18-2010 , 06:27 PM

#111

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Or maybe you're just so dumb that you don't know what logic and reasoning is even when it slaps you on the face?

How old are you? Did mommy and daddy just get you your first computer for your birfday?

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06-18-2010 , 06:27 PM

#112

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That's not the stance you've been taking this entire thread.

black people like purple drank

(taken from a famous comedian obviously. this has nothing to do with what I've been discussing with you.)

Except, it is the stance I've taken the entire thread. You clearly just have problems reading and comprehending basic information. Are you sure you aren't religious?

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06-18-2010 , 06:28 PM

#113

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How old are you? Did mommy and daddy just get you your first computer for your birfday?

I mean I don't like to brag, but I guarentee I'm more successful than anyone who is a regular in this forum. If you'd like to prop bet me at even $, just let me know. Same goes for IQ test.

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06-18-2010 , 06:29 PM

#114

loK2thabrain

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Okay. I don't know where to go with this because in one of your recent posts to me you admit there are exceptions - which is what you've been denying up until then.

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06-18-2010 , 06:30 PM

#115

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Okay. I don't know where to go with this because in one of you recent posts to me you admit their are exceptions - which is what you've been denying up until then.

I was never denying it; go quote me. Try learning to read better, please.

Moreover, it is more than extremely doubtful that any of these exceptions post on this forum

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06-18-2010 , 06:31 PM

#116

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Except, it is the stance I've taken the entire thread. You clearly just have problems reading and comprehending basic information. Are you sure you aren't religious?

No it's not. You've said that no theists are smart. Then you say there are exceptions.

Yes, I'm sure I'm not religious.

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06-18-2010 , 06:32 PM

#117

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No it's not. You've said that no theists are smart. Then you say there are exceptions.

Yes, I'm sure I'm not religious.

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06-18-2010 , 06:32 PM

#118

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Because I didnt respond right away means im backing out?

I'd be willing to bet, if you are really serious about this im sure I can get together a lot more money as well.

I'm certainly not going to waste my time for a few thousand dollars and the people going against you wouldnt either.

This test wouldnt be a stupid online thing, it would be a meet in person, do it the right way kind of deal.

People time is worth money.

So if you want to put up more money we can arrange something, if not, continue trolling.

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06-18-2010 , 06:34 PM

#119

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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03

Yes, I'm willing to do it. I'll do up to 5k, maybe more if you tell me the person I'm going up against. I'm also willing to propbet at even money that I am the most successful person who is a regular of this forum.

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06-18-2010 , 06:35 PM

#120

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Yes, I don't think you could find 1000 theists that I would consider pretty smart.

And sorry to break it to you, but not believing in ridiculous theories IS a prerequisite to being smart. MAYBE there are a couple of smart people out there who have just been so brainwashed on this particular issue/are extremely stubborn/just not educated about religion, but the generalization that theists are dumb is one of the strongest, if not the strongest generalization out there. If you know of a stronger generalization, please say so.

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Okay. Now I admit you specifically were referring to the number 1,000. But with the millions and millions of Christians 1000 = 1, imo.

If you disagree, then fine. I admit you didn't say there wasn't a single smart theist in these series of posts.

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06-18-2010 , 06:36 PM

#121

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

I mean I don't like to brag, but I guarentee I'm more successful than anyone who is a regular in this forum. If you'd like to prop bet me at even $, just let me know. Same goes for IQ test.

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Yes, I'm willing to do it. I'll do up to 5k, maybe more if you tell me the person I'm going up against. I'm also willing to propbet at even money that I am the most successful person who is a regular of this forum.

LMAO

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06-18-2010 , 06:37 PM

#122

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Originally Posted by Butcho22

LMAO

Why is that so funny? I'll wager up to 5k, (maybe up to 20k if I know specifically whom I am going up against), and this entire forum can pool together 5k or whatever, since you all think I'm dumb. Surely you must know that I know all of you are too busto to be able to front 5k by yourself

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06-18-2010 , 06:37 PM

#123

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

I mean I don't like to brag, but I guarentee I'm more successful than anyone who is a regular in this forum. If you'd like to prop bet me at even $, just let me know. Same goes for IQ test.

Lol. This kid is either ******ed or 15 yrs old. And that's a "guarentee." No offense to 15 year olds.

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06-18-2010 , 06:38 PM

#124

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Originally Posted by lew189

Lol. This kid is either ******ed or 15 yrs old. No offense to 15 year olds.

Ok, so you're interested in taking either one of my prop bets, correct? I mean, it's me vs anyone you guys agree upon that's a regular in this forum

Should we start an official thread for this?

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06-18-2010 , 06:42 PM

#125

lew189

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Originally Posted by SecondChance

Ok, so you're interested in taking either one of my prop bets, correct? I mean, it's me vs anyone you guys agree upon that's a regular in this forum

Should we start an official thread for this?

The only thing I'm interested in is pointing out that people who challenge other people to iq tests and "success" tests in an online forum are either ******ed or 15 yrs old.

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