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06-18-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
i havent been following this thread super closely, so which of these is obvious and which is easy to ballpark?

1. College you attended
2. Degree(s)
3. What you do for a living
Well, even by using common sense, I'm pretty sure you can eliminate degree from the list, and then use common sense to figure out the other 2.
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06-18-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I mean I don't like to brag, but I guarentee I'm more successful than anyone who is a regular in this forum. If you'd like to prop bet me at even $, just let me know. Same goes for IQ test.
Please provide further details. What time frame are you willing to accept (on the IQ bet)? Is there anyone in particular you would be willing to let hold the money (such as a regular on this forum)? Which IQ measures are you willing to accept? Stanford-Binet, Weschler, Cattell?
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06-18-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Sure, tell me whom I'm going up against and I'll be willing to do up to 20k, but only vs 1 person. I'll do 2 people, but you're giving me 1:1.5 odds, since after all, it's rumored that I'm almost as dumb as Gunth, and you only need 1 of 2 people to beat me.
Well since my original bet was 2 people I would certainly not be giving you any sort of odds.
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06-18-2010 , 07:33 PM
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I'm almost as dumb as Gunth, and you only need 1 of 2 people to beat me.
No atheist has taught me anything on this forum. You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? Do you consider that smart thinking? Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? Why is that?
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06-18-2010 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by madnak
Please provide further details. What time frame are you willing to accept (on the IQ bet)? Is there anyone in particular you would be willing to let hold the money (such as a regular on this forum)? Which IQ measures are you willing to accept? Stanford-Binet, Weschler, Cattell?
I don't trust any regulars on this forum, it would have to be a reputable poker player from 2p2 or a reputable mod...I'm assuming that's ok with you. But, the person MUST be a regular (30+ posts) of this forum and MUST be a theist. I honestly haven't studied IQ tests that much (but I guarantee that I will before the prop bet happens), so I'm not sure of the difference between the 3. Care to summarize?
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06-18-2010 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
No atheist has taught me anything on this forum. You just accept what people tell you without checking things out yourself? Do you consider that smart thinking? Most of the time i feel like i am talking to a complete idiot, do you see me constantly calling people idiots or dumb? Why is that?
Actually, that's what religious people do...accept what people tell them
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06-18-2010 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Well, even by using common sense, I'm pretty sure you can eliminate degree from the list, and then use common sense to figure out the other 2.
i dont feel like reading this entire thread, why wont you just answer the question straight up? no one is going to prop you on your "more successful" bet, and IQ bet will go on no matter what you answer to the questions.
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06-18-2010 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Weatherhead03
Well since my original bet was 2 people I would certainly not be giving you any sort of odds.
So, let me get this straight..you think I am ******ed (as was said in previous posts), yet you want me to take an IQ test bet vs not only one but also 2 people of your choosing AND you don't want to give me odds? Are you trying to back out or something, since you obviously thought I wasn't going to take your prop bet? Give me the names of 2 people, and I'll *consider* doing it with no odds.
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06-18-2010 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
i dont feel like reading this entire thread, why wont you just answer the question straight up? no one is going to prop you on your "more successful" bet, and IQ bet will go on no matter what you answer to the questions.
Why would no one prop bet on my more successful bet? I don't understand?

I could say straight up, but honestly if you haven't figured it out from the clues I've said then you clearly don't deserve to know, sorry. Maybe someone else can clarify for you, since it should be more than obvious
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06-18-2010 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Actually, that's what religious people do...accept what people tell them
Just skip my questions, that's cool. That's what they all do anyway.

This is your opinion. It is not fact. I don't think you can provide any evidence that it is fact...

I was raised being told God's Word is The Truth. I did not believe until i took the effort to find out myself.
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06-18-2010 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
No atheist has taught me anything on this forum.
That is because you have not opened yourself up to the truth. Seek the truth and it shall find you.

Last edited by wants; 06-18-2010 at 07:39 PM. Reason: if someone misses the irony in this, fml.
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06-18-2010 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Most likely not going to happen, I have other stuff to do/arguing with stupid people is only fun for a while
That's probably a good idea as most likely you wold get your ass kicked if the best you can come up with is, your dumb.
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
It was already said, net worth+money made. I'm pretty sure that I also went to a better college than everyone except for 2 people at very most who are regulars in this forum, but not fully confident on that
If that's your version of success then imo you have been unsuccessful.
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06-18-2010 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Just skip my questions, that's cool. That's what they all do anyway.

This is your opinion. It is not fact. I don't think you can provide any evidence that it is fact...

I was raised being told God's Word is The Truth. I did not believe until i took the effort to find out myself.

Ok, here

You don't call people idiots or dumb because you are an idiot yourself.

Now, answer my question.

Do flies go to heaven? Dogs? Cats? Apes? When did humans evolve enough so that they stopped just dying and started going to heaven? What about life on other planets, do they go to heaven also? What about if there were life on other planets more complex than humans?
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06-18-2010 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wants
That is because you have not opened yourself up to the truth. Seek the truth and it shall find you.
Your opinion is based on nothing.
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06-18-2010 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
That's probably a good idea as most likely you wold get your ass kicked if the best you can come up with is your dumb.

If that's your version of success then imo you have been unsuccessful.
I mean, clearly the person who is most happy is the most successful, because that's what life is all about; however, that would be a stupid bet. What would you define successful as?
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06-18-2010 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Ok, here

You don't call people idiots or dumb because you are an idiot yourself.

Now, answer my question.

Do flies go to heaven? Dogs? Cats? Apes? When did humans evolve enough so that they stopped just dying and started going to heaven? What about life on other planets, do they go to heaven also? What about if there were life on other planets more complex than humans?
Yea i must be an idiot because you are dodging questions. Is this smart thinking also?
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06-18-2010 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Yea i must be an idiot because you are dodging questions. Is this smart thinking also?
I answered all your questions I believe, actually. You're the one dodging mine, since you have yet to answer my question about heaven.
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06-18-2010 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
Why would no one prop bet on my more successful bet? I don't understand?

I could say straight up, but honestly if you haven't figured it out from the clues I've said then you clearly don't deserve to know, sorry. Maybe someone else can clarify for you, since it should be more than obvious
perhaps your "clues" arent as obvious as you think they are. you only mentioned your college once, and merely said only 2 people max may have gone to a better college. no idea how the hell im suppose to figure out what college you went to using THAT info.

and your degree and current occupation? how the hell should i guess that? I dont care to guess, i want to know details.
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06-18-2010 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I answered all your questions I believe, actually. You're the one dodging mine, since you have yet to answer my question about heaven.
But i am the idiot. You do know it was 1 short paragraph with 4 questions right? You answered 1 question. But for some reason you believe you answered them all.

Welcome to RGT.
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06-18-2010 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I don't trust any regulars on this forum, it would have to be a reputable poker player from 2p2 or a reputable mod...I'm assuming that's ok with you. But, the person MUST be a regular (30+ posts) of this forum and MUST be a theist. I honestly haven't studied IQ tests that much (but I guarantee that I will before the prop bet happens), so I'm not sure of the difference between the 3. Care to summarize?
I believe they weigh some factors differently, but are mostly similar. It sounds like you'd want to study up before picking a test, which sounds fair to me.

And of course, any reputable mod would be fine by me, and many poker players.

I won't be one of the major contributors here (I'm poor) so I don't think I should have too much say in the specifics, but I just want to make sure you won't insist on "my best friend from high school" or "we'll be using this IQ test I wrote all by myself" or something. Thanks for the answers!
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06-18-2010 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
perhaps your "clues" arent as obvious as you think they are. you only mentioned your college once, and merely said only 2 people max may have gone to a better college. no idea how the hell im suppose to figure out what college you went to using THAT info.

and your degree and current occupation? how the hell should i guess that? I dont care to guess, i want to know details.
I never said you should figure out what specific college I go to using that info, but you should be able to BALLPARK the college I go to based on that info. (HINT: It's clearly not a top 10 school, but it's somewhat close)

As for degree, I already said you would have no real way of knowing that...which leaves occupation...and if you can't figure that out, then I don't know what to tell you.
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06-18-2010 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
I never said you should figure out what specific college I go to using that info, but you should be able to BALLPARK the college I go to based on that info. (HINT: It's clearly not a top 10 school, but it's somewhat close)

As for degree, I already said you would have no real way of knowing that...which leaves occupation...and if you can't figure that out, then I don't know what to tell you.
Lets see ... my guess is:

U Penn
Business
Poker Player

close?
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06-18-2010 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by madnak
I believe they weigh some factors differently, but are mostly similar. It sounds like you'd want to study up before picking a test, which sounds fair to me.

And of course, any reputable mod would be fine by me, and many poker players.

I won't be one of the major contributors here (I'm poor) so I don't think I should have too much say in the specifics, but I just want to make sure you won't insist on "my best friend from high school" or "we'll be using this IQ test I wrote all by myself" or something. Thanks for the answers!
Well yeah, I won't be angle shooting as if this goes down (which it obviously won't since people are already trying to back out of it), it would be a certifiable test administrated by the unbiased escrow, and not some made up IQ test
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06-18-2010 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dknightx
Lets see ... my guess is:

U Penn
Business
Poker Player

close?
Yep, close enough for a guess, but U Penn is definitely a top 10 school fwiw

See, I knew you could do it.
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06-18-2010 , 07:47 PM
there are only 2 "regular" theist posters on this board that i think may have a higher IQ than you. but what exactly does that prove? smart theists dont tend to post on RGT for many reasons.
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