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04-11-2022 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ec_outlaw
I've worn FJ DryJoys for years and love them. I have two pairs now. Though I may like them as much for the looks as anything else. I'm sure there's more comfortable shoes out there, but I've been happy enough with these I haven't tried anything else.
this is pretty much my response, except that their fit is a huge reason why i keep wearing them. their consistency in sizing is flawless. i've ordered several pairs of 11.5M shoes over the years without trying on and they all fit the same, including a pair of their waterproof high tops.
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04-14-2022 , 07:04 PM
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It's not all wrong but I would happy to hear why you think it is wrong. Just saying it is wrong doesn't make it wrong. I promise you that it is not wrong. I am a scratch golfer, a certified PGA Professional, spent my whole life studying golf swings, and I've worked for two of the top three golf instructors in the world. I'd love to hear how you a 20+ handicap will explain this to me. You obviously don't know because if you did, you would have mentioned it in this reply. Since you didn't, means that you obviously just dismiss it without lookign at it with an open mind or even trying it yourself. You probably don't even understand basic concepts of the golf swing which is why you are a 20+ handicap. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion and what I need to learn......
This is excellent post, which is chock full of logical fallacies. I'll post my thoughts below - feel free to educate yourself on my content or elsewhere.

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This is why I don't like this and don't believe it is better for the average player to think about these things. Are you saying that a slice is caused with a closed clubface but with a open path to the target? For a slice, the ball will start left and then go to the right normally but can start straight and go right and can start right and go right. I know that a shank is caused by a closed club face but I don't think a slice is caused by one. a shank is caused by hitting the ball off the hosel or off the edge of the toe. If someone is closing their face so extremely as to look like a shank, they have some other serious problems The reason why they are slicing is because they are unable to release the club properly and can't close the clubface enough before impact. a slice is largely generated by having a club path which is moving to the left of the target line. There are plenty of reasons why someone could have an open clubface, and one of them is failure to release. But you have to understand the matchups in the swing. Some players use very little release but are able to close the face by setup and grip, or by body action. Take a look at Dustin Johnson or Moe Norman for example I don't think it is possible to slice with the clubface closed but most slicers start the ball left.the club face is evaluated as open or closed relative to the club path. While there are some crossover effects of both path and face, the face direction mainly impacts the initial direction of the shot, and the path, the spin (slice). So if the club face is closed to the club path, and the club path is left of the target line, you could have a ball that starts left and turns right. In other words, you said that its not possible to slice with the clubface closed and then immediately described the shot shape that is caused by that impact condition. If the face is square to the path, and the path is left, you have a pull. If the face is open to the path, and the path is left, then you have a ball that starts right and turns right - a more classic conception of slice I dont know how someone could even have a closed clubface who is swinging out to in. this is the exact impact condition that you're talking about above with a ball that starts left and curves right It's unnatural and I am starting to remember what I didn't use this in my lessons or teachings.
I suggest you look up the modern ball flight laws - much smarter people than me have figured this out. And maybe be a little less condescending, as you obviously don't know everything.
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04-14-2022 , 09:26 PM
I slice my driver. I have a Big Bertha set to draw so it goes somewhat straight Am I sacrificing distance by doing that vs correcting my swing so I hit a straight ball or maybe a fade with a driver in the neutral setting?
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04-14-2022 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
I slice my driver. I have a Big Bertha set to draw so it goes somewhat straight Am I sacrificing distance by doing that vs correcting my swing so I hit a straight ball or maybe a fade with a driver in the neutral setting?
Draw bias makes it easier to close the toe, so that's actually gaining you a bit of distance. If you corrected your swing path you'd gain much more.
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04-14-2022 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Draw bias makes it easier to close the toe, so that's actually gaining you a bit of distance. If you corrected your swing path you'd gain much more.
Exciting,. Thank you!
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04-15-2022 , 04:54 PM
Depending on how your club is adjusted, the draw bias adjustment can also change the efficiency of the strike - if, for example, you have a sliding weight adjuster moved towards the heel, the center of gravity of the club follows the sliding weight towards the heel. This stops some gear effect slice when you strike near the heel, but increases the "toe" area of the club. That can produce some draws on a center strike, but the sweet spot is moved towards the heel, so you lose some smash factor.

Fixing your swing path will increase your distance regardless of the club adjustment because you can spend less energy spinning the ball and more energy making the ball move forward.
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04-17-2022 , 03:52 PM
When using trackman at the range I noticed that the ball speed is usually higher when I pull a shot. Why should this be, as the club speed is presumably the same or is there other stuff going on that leads to a faster club speed and a pull?
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04-17-2022 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
When using trackman at the range I noticed that the ball speed is usually higher when I pull a shot. Why should this be, as the club speed is presumably the same or is there other stuff going on that leads to a faster club speed and a pull?
When you pull a shot you deloft the clubface. Less loft means more ball speed. Because of this most pulls go farther than average while most pushes go shorter.

TM side note, club speed means nothing, always just look at ball speed.
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04-17-2022 , 06:09 PM
ty - so more energy goes into spin with more loft? (All other things being equal)

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04-17-2022 , 09:09 PM
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ty - so more energy goes into spin with more loft? (All other things being equal)

speef is back again!
I think of it as less loft makes for a more efficient transfer of energy. Hitting a wedge means you are contacting the ball at a ~45* angle which results in a lot of loss of energy.

If you are trying to punch someone you do do square on because it hurts more. You wouldn’t try to punch somebody at a 45* angle.
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04-17-2022 , 09:57 PM
Also with a pull the face is square to the club path which in addition to being de lofted makes a more efficient strike. I think like BO says the delofting is a bigger contributor to the extra distance.
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04-19-2022 , 05:20 PM
Little John Daly just nabbed the best NIL deal a college guy could ever hope for.

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04-22-2022 , 11:36 AM
Playing a charity scramble next week. The course is 4,000y par 67. Lol at these holes.

1 318y par 4
2 123y par 3
3 301y par 4
4 375y par 5 - Looked this one up, it has a > 90 degree dogleg. 205y out to the corner.
5 152y par 3
6 284y par 3
7 171y par 3
8 138y par 3
9 273y par 4
10 260y par 4
11153y par 3
12 205y par 4
13 233y par 4
14 168y par 3
15 108y par 3
16 292y par 4
17 162y par 3
18 307y par 4


Gonna go out on a limb and say this course is super tight. It looks like there are corners you can cut to make the holes even shorter. Should be funny.
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04-22-2022 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JackInDaCrak
This is excellent post, which is chock full of logical fallacies. I'll post my thoughts below - feel free to educate yourself on my content or elsewhere.



I suggest you look up the modern ball flight laws - much smarter people than me have figured this out. And maybe be a little less condescending, as you obviously don't know everything.

Logical fallacies? That's always what someone who doesn't know much about a subject always uses to make their points. Please go ahead and tell me what those are. You said you will post your thoughts below and yet you posted nothing other than an insult with no evidence or reasoning or anything to back up what you said. Unlilke your post that just dismisses mine, mine comes with my thoughts and beliefs backed up with examples and evidence. You on the other hand are clearly just insulting someone for having a different point of view than yours but you know nothing about the subject. You just believe what you read. I didn't mean to be condescending, but I hope that you can understand how it is a little frustrating and insulting to dedicate your life to something and then have someone like you who self admits to being a casual golfer to tell me what I don't know what I'm talking about right? I hope you can understand that you don't know everything, and you don't know anything in reality. Know something before you base your opinion and dismiss someone else. I have no opinion on MLB, NBA, or the NFL. You know why? Because I know nothing about them.

I also want to make myself clear when it comes to the modern ball flight laws. I don't care what the trackman data says and golfers shouldn't either. When I have a student who comes to me for help, and has a slice. I cure his slice in about 10 or 15 balls. I don't care what the trackman says because we don't play golf with a trackman. I have always said there is feel vs real when it comes to golf and it's one of the most important aspects of golf . What is really happening isn't as important as what the player feels like is happening. In my teaching, I always say "feel like you are doing X" to get them to learn the correct movement.

I see so many guys on tour get too into the technology. They will be beating balls on the range and instead of looking at the ball, they are looking down and reading the numbers. I think this is a mistake because golf isn't played on a monitor and it's important to know your swing and to recognize your ball flight patterns. I think it can be ok to use it as a guide once in a while but there are so many people who focus too much on the technology. Not one of them has ever really improved. It's because they lose touch with their feel and instincts and rely too much on being robotic.
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04-22-2022 , 08:22 PM
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I don’t agree that the earth orbits the sun. I have always been skeptical of the boiling temperature of water and I know in my heart that dinosaurs are a global mind control conspiracy perpetrated by big science.
You are making a comparison to something that cannot be compared. You also took a couple of words and used them out of context and don't understand what my overall point was. What also is hilarious is how you pretend to be an expert in these things like how the earth orbits what and dinosaurs. That's funny because I have never seen a dinosaur so I'm not an expert on them and don't claim to be. You shouldn't have such strong opinions and dismiss someone when you know nothing about the subject.

Don't take what I said out of context just to be a troll. If you don't agree with me about what golfers should be thinking about or what is going to help people improve the most, then please feel free to share that. I welcome any questions and any opinions that are different. Just have to be prepared to have evidence and back up what you say.

To be clear, I didn't mean that the ball flight laws are false. What my overall point was that you clearly didn't get is that it doesn't matter what is actually happening. All that matters is what the player feels like is happening.
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04-22-2022 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by abcde123
In my teaching, I always say "feel like you are doing X" to get them to learn the correct movement.
Not getting into any of the other stuff here, but this right here has been one of my main issues with the golf lessons I've had and why I'm skeptical to get more.

"You just have to feel it" is not good instruction for someone who's struggling with something - if I could just "feel it" I wouldn't be a 20+ hcp after having played golf fairly regularly for 15+ years and any instructor who doesn't realize this, is pretty worthless to me.

I've played a several sports where "feel" came natural to me. Golf, as much as I love it, is one where I've never had a natural feel for it, and so I'm not going to improve any by being told to "feel" anything.

"feel like you are doing X" is basically just admitting you don't actually know how to teach someone to do something. I don't need someone to tell me what to feel - I need someone to tell me what to do.
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04-23-2022 , 04:20 AM
"I need someone to tell me what to do."

Hit it straight duhhh.

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Messed up my left wrist hitting 7 iron approach through a stiff clump of turf on last hole last week. It healed and regained enough strength and mobility that I felt food to hit a small bucket 2 days ago. Was going Ok at first. Then I tried some full 7/6/5 irons. My wrist has basically lost motor nerve pathways that previously knew how to hit a golf ball. I could feel the club slipping in left hand at impact causing skull slice. Had to go back to the beginning with stronger left hand position. Hit some ok 3/4 knockdown shots near the end of the bucket, but I chose to go home instead of playing, which was my original plan.
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04-23-2022 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by abcde123
Logical fallacies? That's always what someone who doesn't know much about a subject always uses to make their points. Please go ahead and tell me what those are. You said you will post your thoughts below and yet you posted nothing other than an insult with no evidence or reasoning or anything to back up what you said. Unlilke your post that just dismisses mine, mine comes with my thoughts and beliefs backed up with examples and evidence. You on the other hand are clearly just insulting someone for having a different point of view than yours but you know nothing about the subject. You just believe what you read. I didn't mean to be condescending, but I hope that you can understand how it is a little frustrating and insulting to dedicate your life to something and then have someone like you who self admits to being a casual golfer to tell me what I don't know what I'm talking about right? I hope you can understand that you don't know everything, and you don't know anything in reality. Know something before you base your opinion and dismiss someone else. I have no opinion on MLB, NBA, or the NFL. You know why? Because I know nothing about them.

I also want to make myself clear when it comes to the modern ball flight laws. I don't care what the trackman data says and golfers shouldn't either. When I have a student who comes to me for help, and has a slice. I cure his slice in about 10 or 15 balls. I don't care what the trackman says because we don't play golf with a trackman. I have always said there is feel vs real when it comes to golf and it's one of the most important aspects of golf . What is really happening isn't as important as what the player feels like is happening. In my teaching, I always say "feel like you are doing X" to get them to learn the correct movement.

I see so many guys on tour get too into the technology. They will be beating balls on the range and instead of looking at the ball, they are looking down and reading the numbers. I think this is a mistake because golf isn't played on a monitor and it's important to know your swing and to recognize your ball flight patterns. I think it can be ok to use it as a guide once in a while but there are so many people who focus too much on the technology. Not one of them has ever really improved. It's because they lose touch with their feel and instincts and rely too much on being robotic.
U mad bro?
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04-23-2022 , 01:16 PM
Looking like mens league will start up this week with a non-counting round, a week ahead of time. Cannot wait!
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04-23-2022 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob148
My wrist has basically lost motor nerve pathways that previously knew how to hit a golf ball. I could feel the club slipping in left hand at impact causing skull slice. Had to go back to the beginning with stronger left hand position.
quoting to add 'skull slice' to my lexicon
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04-24-2022 , 04:36 PM
Played in a scramble today (and oh boy did we suck). The 15th hole we played is a 185ish par 5. I hit a 5 iron very well and missed green right but pin high. Immediate pain in left hand/wrist. I tried to shake it off but just cannot swing a club. On way home it hurt to turn steering wheel with left hand. Gonna self diagnose on internet. Hopefully just minor and will go away.
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04-24-2022 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by natediggity
Played in a scramble today (and oh boy did we suck). The 15th hole we played is a 185ish par 5. I hit a 5 iron very well and missed green right but pin high. Immediate pain in left hand/wrist. I tried to shake it off but just cannot swing a club. On way home it hurt to turn steering wheel with left hand. Gonna self diagnose on internet. Hopefully just minor and will go away.
Where on the hand/wrist does it hurt?
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04-24-2022 , 05:31 PM
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Where on the hand/wrist does it hurt?
hard to describe. i would say if you look at your pinky and put your finger on the outside edge and run it down to just above the hand/wrist intersection.

i am googling and one possibility is hamate fracture. i found a video with a "hamate fracture test" and i think i can rule that out. hopefully just some kind of strain/sprain. and again, just a normal swing with really good contact. it's not like i hit a root/took some huge divot, etc.
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04-24-2022 , 05:33 PM
That's the exact bone I broke last year. It is hard to pinpoint where the pain comes from, at least it was for me. If it persists ask for a CT scan. The MRI and xray didn't show it for me.
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04-24-2022 , 05:45 PM
when you broke it was it on a violent/impactful swing? on the next tee box i tried some short swings with driver and thought yeah, i can do this. and then on address i took the club back and tried to bring it forward and was like nope, bad idea. it was at the top of the swing/transition where it really hurt.
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