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Originally Posted by Evoken
I'm just quoting loco because he's very funny and I like his writing style. I have no thoughts on genetic naturolo muscular potential as I literally never trained with hypertrophy as the main goal while natural. I was pretty impressive and did 24 pullups, cgbped 235x10, and squatted 315x10 all weighing 195-199lbs natural though.
I'm quite sure I put on a solid 3.5-4lbs of actual LBM just since I finished dieting. Increased insulina sensitivity+muscle memory and beginning to squat again.
We all vary so much genetically (sorry, SenseiSingh) that its not even worth worrying about. Loco might indeed be incapable of more than 1-2lbs of lbm gains if he trains his ass off and diets perfectly every year. He's also in his late 30s and in an ethnic group that's really bad at building muscle, on average (Sorry, SenseiSingh). Is N1H going to gain that slowly? **** no.
we don't vary that much at all. You really need to stop googling studies and having this blanket phrase 'genetic variation' thrown around. Fundamental conversions of energy are same within you and me. So you really do need to delve deeper into the science of genetics and tell us what you find.
watch these awesome vids for starters
http://multimedia.mcb.harvard.edu/an...inpacking.html
in fact the site is awesome in terms of the accuracy of the animation. It is just crazy to see what is going on in our cells. just crazy.
http://multimedia.mcb.harvard.edu/
check em out. vv interesting.
I believe in the body's ability to not only mutate randomly but mutations that can be caused due to lifestyle change that then create a broader variation.
You are born with a genetic set and there is no wiggle room after that flies in the face of evolution. By your metric, we'd all just reach a point of stupor in terms of genetic changes.
You are just talking about segmented populations with dispositions (that weren't inherent, just mutations that happened over time due to external factors and now someone born in west africa probably automatically assume he is physically that way)
also a lot of 'mutations and variations' the two things that play a key role, arise not from inheritance but from extrensic factors as well.
Pit a Kenyan marathon runner & Jamaican sprinter against the untrained dude in Khumbu valley Nepal and both their asses will be handed to them pronto.
Go lift at higher altitudes and you will again observe such scenarios where weaker opponents seem to just be outdoing you even though you juice.
However, the body adapts! Live in the mountains and you'd be a killler EVO.
Blacks and whoever else you named as being benefited from their variations are only so within a very small environmental constraint. It is just that it is the most accessible environment on Earth.
concluding that you know ceiling of someone's potential to lift weights through eye tests is rather plain, unsophisticated and grossly oversimplified.
I am the only Indian (i think) on this form, had a crocked back for ages, bad leverages, apparently bad genetics as well (according to you)... but... I am certain I will outperform a lot of h&f regs here and rather soon too.
Think of this as a challenge.
Evo I already run faster than you, I play better bball and tennis than you and I am pretty sure this will make me a better athlete than you once I add more strength - which to me is just a matter of practice and dedication - to overcome my one limitation when compared to you.
I played 4 years of bball with black guys in uni gyms. Asked them if they took statistics on FGs, drives and post ups. I owned them.
In pick up soccer games you will not find a cleverer operator than me. You are natural abilities and raw strength with self-coaching with minimal tactical approach.
I am otoh a master of tactics in sports and the ability to do so I consider to be a genetic variation that you don't possess.
Will give everyone 100$ if Evo can beat me in a 1v1 bball game played to 21 3x
Many have tried, not many have won. I am a hard opponent to play.
Last edited by SenseiSingh; 07-01-2016 at 04:59 PM.
Reason: sorry for endless edits. super high atm