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06-19-2016 , 02:41 AM
You've been talking about this for a long time, glad you'll finally get to do it

How long will you stay in Korea to recover?
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06-19-2016 , 03:06 AM
I go from 7th to 13th. I had the surgery booked since like... feb? Just now booked flight. So I'll have the end of the 7th and part of the 8th to get into trouble and do tourist stuff etc. It might have been smarter to stay until the 15th or later, but I have no idea what prices I'll be getting on food and stuff since I'll be staying in Gangnam, and I have no idea if I'll be able to do much physically. I've heard this can vary a lot. And finally I have no idea if it'll be general or local anasthesia. From what I'm told the more skilled guys never have to use general unless it's ultra severe gyno, and general can increase risk of complications.
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06-19-2016 , 03:09 AM
Will they even allow you to take general without someone there to take care of you?

I was a total wreck when I took it for (one of) my endoscopy. I guess they could have a nurse help you, but i think there's a lot of protocol they have to follow to make sure you don't get taken advantage of.
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06-19-2016 , 11:29 AM
Oh jesus... well that's not terrifying at all. I'm guessing since he's a boob surgery specialist he'll do local b/c general is for the amateur general surgeon. Let's hope so LOL. I'm only talking to the English speaking secretary so I'll ask her.


Yeah... the doc only does 3 operations really... gyno surgery, tummy tucks, and breast implants for 5'2 115lb Korean milfs 32ddd/24/34 i gotta beat off now brb korean IR anal creampie porn hnnggg.

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06-19-2016 , 02:58 PM
I've never asked or googled it and probably should have before....but what is gyno surgery?
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06-19-2016 , 04:23 PM
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I've never asked or googled it and probably should have before....but what is gyno surgery?
titties baby please
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06-19-2016 , 07:37 PM
Yes, AAS made it worse. Yes, I still had it well before AAS around age 12 onward (a bit more severe than FakeB's, for instance).

Cosmetically it's not so noticeable when lean, but it is actually rather painful.

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06-19-2016 , 08:26 PM
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Yes, AAS made it worse. Yes, I still had it well before AAS around age 12 onward (a bit more severe than FakeB's, for instance).

Cosmetically it's not so noticeable when lean, but it is actually rather painful.
Never heard of pain associated with gyno. Is it at the nipple or around it?
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06-19-2016 , 09:42 PM
I had it when I was 13 too. Felt as if there was a hard aching lump behind both my nipples, the size of a cherry. Luckily my boobs came out fine.
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06-20-2016 , 03:25 AM
Got an answer. General Anasthesia. He's been doing the surgery for 8 years though apparently.


So apparently not supposed to squat/dl for at least 2-3 weeks afterword because the increase in bp/heart rate can lead to complications. So ****... I hope this guy does a good job and I'm not taking more than a month off the gym total. I think I took off about 4 weeks when I first got to China.

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06-20-2016 , 04:29 AM
If you are doing general anesthetic then there will be another specialist in the room just for that, the boobs doctor won't have anything to do with it.

I would inquire about getting help after the operation. I recollect asking to see my twin brother which was removed from my stomach immediately after the operation then I do not remember anything until over an hour later when I removed the sticky things they attach to your body to keep the wires on. Apparently I had a pretty long discussion with the doctor after the half hour recovery and then another discussion with my mom on the way home.

I would check into a good hotel for that day at least so you have room service as an option and a good bed. Also get easy to eat food beforehand so it's easy to access after.

Hopefully it doesn't hit you ad hard but I was a wreck for 12 hours then a bit out of it for another 12.
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06-20-2016 , 05:34 AM
But what happened to your brother?
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06-21-2016 , 11:22 AM
Deadlift: 455x7, and I literally ****ing quit on the 2nd rep of my downset with 365 LOL
Pullups: bwx10x5
T-bar rows: 180x10, 155x8, 145x10
Pulldowns: 55x10x4, 50x10x3

Curls: gave up after the first set


I don't know what happened. I was just ****ing tired. Troubling because this was first heavy workout after deload so I should have a lot of energy. Accutane is making me feel like ****. My acne on my face is basically gone and it's mostly scars on my body. i might drop from 50mg/day to 25mg/day.
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06-21-2016 , 03:40 PM
My titties are beautiful tyvm

Gl with surgery
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06-23-2016 , 04:33 AM


Motivation is at an all time low because I know I'll have to take time off after surgery. Which is the opposite of how I should be feeling so that I have a less difficult time recovering and I can go hog wild knowing that if there's any injuries they'll probably heal while I'm recovering anywa.y
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06-23-2016 , 05:29 AM
For how good and natural Chinese people are at squatting it's pretty astonishing to me how an awful job PT's can do teaching the movement. So many things going wrong in the background.
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06-23-2016 , 05:36 AM
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I don't know what happened. I was just ****ing tired. Troubling because this was first heavy workout after deload so I should have a lot of energy. Accutane is making me feel like ****. My acne on my face is basically gone and it's mostly scars on my body. i might drop from 50mg/day to 25mg/day.
Do you drop it all at once or space it out?

Was it illegal in the US back a decade or so? I distinctly remember having to bring it from India for a friend but don't remember if it was purely due to $$ or her doctor being too conservative. I do think there was at least some hesitation from the doctors she had at the time. It did clear them up tho.

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Motivation is at an all time low because I know I'll have to take time off after surgery. Which is the opposite of how I should be feeling so that I have a less difficult time recovering and I can go hog wild knowing that if there's any injuries they'll probably heal while I'm recovering anywa.y
I think it is hard to feel the opposite even if it's the right attitude.

I would try to amp up the motivation when you are recovering though. It's not that you will not be licking your chops anticipating getting back in the gym, it is the fact that you are more likely to make a lot poorer choices when recovering that make it harder to return (and also deviate farther from the conditioning you can be at upon returning) than not ripping it in the gym right now.

Will your recovery be purely scar-healing type or will you be actively needing to do things to recover faster? Either way I think the real tarp of losing motivation lies in failing to do what is important during the hour or day when you have the most legit excuse (again not your long-term plan to return) than these impending days before surgery.
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06-23-2016 , 05:50 AM
Your stance seems pretty wide on your deadlift and looks like your hips are shooting first...
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06-23-2016 , 06:12 AM
455x7 though
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06-23-2016 , 06:15 AM
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06-23-2016 , 08:47 AM
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Will your recovery be purely scar-healing type or will you be actively needing to do things to recover faster? Either way I think the real tarp of losing motivation lies in failing to do what is important during the hour or day when you have the most legit excuse (again not your long-term plan to return) than these impending days before surgery.
Yeah mostly. It could be anywhere from 1 week to 7 weeks before I at least do lower body lifting again. The uncertainty sucks.


Accutane is legal in USA. I refused it from my dermatologist like 3 times because I was scared of side effects and wanted to get everything I could out of topicals. In terms of how skin/lips/eyes feel, topical sides are way worse than accutane and are way less effective to boot. Accutane sucks for energy, digestion, and libido though. Somewhat for mental state, but it's more anhedonia than depression. Just kind of empty, not really sad. I am definitely scaling down to 25mg now.

I had the WOAT first date yesterday. That's okay though. I go on a lot of first dates. A lot of them are really fun even if I don't want a second. It's more about the activity/new place than just the person. I feel good on this front, still.


Chest:

Incline: up to 225x8 (pr), 185x10, 165x8
Flat db: 34kgsx8, 30sx12, 9
Machine incline: 25-35x10x7 30 seconds rest

Side raises: 12x5

Gave up, no triceps. I guess it's cool I set an all time wr on incline! But I think I prefer dumbbells.

It's so hot and damp in the gym it makes me feel way more tired and the workout feels way harder than it really is. Fortunately I'm on break now and can just train at 7am if I want to.
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06-23-2016 , 08:54 AM
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Your stance seems pretty wide on your deadlift and looks like your hips are shooting first...
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455x7 though
This is why after a point in one's lifting career, I think it's all well and good for deviating from "standard" form nittery. As much as physics and biomechanics are constants, skill, effort, muscle memory, and body shape are widely varying and possibly more important. And this is 10x as true for someone NOT competing in powerlifting.

I know you guys aren't tearing him apart or anything, but that's just a general view I have. Deadlifts look amazing. Carry on.
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06-23-2016 , 06:59 PM
I mostly agree (although not about them looking amazing ). I'm all for do what works and I'm probably never going to pull 7x 4xx in my life, so...

On the other hand...

a) Doing it "right" is probably better for working the target muscles better. I'm seeing a lack of ham in that dead

b) Doing it "right" probably lowers your risk of injury

This is the internet. We nit. It's what we do.
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06-23-2016 , 08:01 PM
Afaik acutance is quite hard to get if you're a woman. I remember taking it in high school and each pill I took had a warning on the back of it saying not to use if pregnant. Iirc my dermatologist said something about legislation because a few pregnant woman took it and completely messed up their babies, making it harder for even guys to get it. And much harder and more hoops to go through of you were a girl.
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06-23-2016 , 08:17 PM
It's hard for anyone to get but for women you have to be taking birth control they won't even give it to you if your tubes are tied you still have to take birth control lol
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