QB I thought I saw a headline yesterday that said something like "shooter was a Christian terrorist". Could be wrong though. I've pretty much said everything I know already.

I'm not gonna say you didn't, but if you did, it was inaccurate.

Ok cool good to know.

I believe early reports were that the perpetrator(s) was/were either single or multiple white males (which itself was obviously an assumption), and then I think the "Christian shooter" assumption was (probably quite rightly) made by the media relatively early in certain spots.

I'd be much more with AIOTT but someone on my feed actually was very good friends with someone who died from the shooting. So it's just depressing instead of annoying.

It seems like this is the one time that saying that 'my thoughts are with you' wouldn't just be empty social media attention whoring.

I am sure the names flloated out quickly and if you knew where to look you could find it, but perhaps in my naivety I was checking CNN website and they were being very cagey in releasing the name and every headline that came up kept stressing "motive unknown" and by that point you pretty much know what is up and they are just hoping a white Christian was involved before spilling the beans.

I am sure you guys are right the right wing has their own hypocrisys. I have come to accept most people are self serving liars in most things (Monte in particular will find this amusing I am saying this now) I don't follow politics at all. I couldn't tell you Trumps stance on a single issue (I could guess and would probably be right, but I don't follow enough to actually know what he has said).

It just bothers me when the media is so obviously biased and full of **** in the way they cover things if/when I actually do check the news, I feel compelled to point it out.

Appreciate the thoughtful suggestion, BtM, but my attraction to women is just about nil IRL so having a threesome doesn't seem like a particularly good gift unless I was drugged or something.

That said, IDK if that would appeal to him more than the gift of anal. I get the idea he thinks of the buttsecks as more effort that it's worth - when I asked him about it, we didn't have a prolonged discussion (I think I said something to the effect that most guys have asked about it by now, is it something you're interested in) but I got the impression that he had tried it in the past and it was problematic in some way. Potentially an issue with his size and/or a previous partner who really hated it and made a big deal. I'm not 100% sure and didn't press it at the time.

However, I don't think he's a prude at all, we talked on our first date about sex in general and he told me he doesn't think he could ever be in a completely monogamous relationship again, which doesn't bother me.

At any rate I am apprently going to be meeting his 6 year old son this weekend for the first time, so now I REALLY have to figure out an appropriate gift, as this seems to indicate we are at least serious enough to meet children. Also he just found out he got a job he was interviewing for, and I was invited along to a celebratory dinner with family last night.

I think we might actually be boyfriend/girlfriend already and I just didn't realize it lol.

Jeeze, that's a rather Kantian outlook; I said I was against further shootings after all

MMF?

That would be a present for me, not him.

Yeah, lots of support for him at least and most of it seems genuine. No one trying to piggy-back a political agenda off of it.

I don't actually mean to criticize. I'm pretty sure I'd be super annoyed but it is sobering once something like this hits closer to home. And in my case it's not even that close, but I do feel pretty bad for my friend. He first got word his friend was shot but in non-critical condition. And then found out that information was simply wrong and he was dead.

The flooding in Chennai is overall way worse, although I guess it's falls under natural disaster so a pretty different situation in terms of politics.

"Merry Christmas, future Mr. SgtRJ. As my gift to you, me and this guy from the bus station are going to spit roast you."

Are you sure. I would guess in most MMF scenarios the M who is the partner of the F is the prime instigator/beneficiary of the arrangement.

But casually dating for 6 months (and as a Christmas present) probabky isn't the point where such things are discussed or actualized.

Lol this should be good. Go on...?

Not much more to say. I am just guessing when these things occur it is normally the M (who is the partner of the F) idea and he is getting some sort of psycho sexual kick out of whatever transpires.

This is heteronormal assumption. You are a bigot.

According to the internet, "mfm=two hetero males and one female. in MMF there is a female and 2 bi-sexual males (or one gay and the other bi)"

I don't see how. If a partner wanted to gift me with a MFM or MMF threesome I'd be ecstatic, and if he actually wanted either I'd be equally ecstatic.

Just based off the conversations I've had with my current partner, that would be far more in line with my fantasies, not his. In any event, if he asked me, what do you want for Christmas, my immediate response would not be "a threesome with you and another guy."

Well I do tend to assume that a guy who has told me isn't at all interested in other men is not particular interested in sexual activity with another guy, yes.

I knew this.

Maybe he wants a MFM not a MMF.

QB I'd expect it's close to 50/50 on initiation between the male or female initiating, but a quick Googling yields no definitive results.

Based on my zero experience 100% speculation reasonings...

I would think the set of motivations for the MMF is 1) men don't care, wanna treat the female, 2) men don't care, they get to have sex with hot female, or 3) men have above average homosexual desires 4) weird psychological QB thing.

I think 1-3 are dominating #4 in the numbers there.

Strong posting right here

Excuse my bigotry, but I'm rating this conversation as "EWWWW!!"