Yeah, liquid has been a huge disappointment, dota is hard to explain sometimes

It's just gonna take bulba a few weeks to explain to them why they are sucking, and for him to get used to supporting (which I think him moving to support is kinda dumb but whatever).

i still think they'll become good eventually. But jesus christ if they dont make it to the major that would be a dotz tragedy

Bulba is going to tell them to drop himself? Seems unlikely.

i feel like this is more a case of Jerax is an amazing player and only a few supports in the world are on his level: sonneiko, MMY, Crit-, not sure who else

Secret looked f terrible for the first month or two after Bulba joined. They admitted in interviews, that after they started to listen to him, things quickly improved. He is learning a bunch of heros he has not played on a pro level, so I don't think its really reasonable to expect him to just instantly play well on Shadow Demon after 2 years of playing beast master every day.

Kaipi ran a mid Warlock at least twice in the qualifiers today, wtf

edit: including the finals, which are going on right now if anyone's interested.

kaka > mmy

Right now I mean, since you're clearly not talking about their overall careers.

yeah good call. i knew there were more amazing chinese supps but didnt know their names. actually cant remember any recent big mmy plays... apparently he's not even on a team right now


watched kaipi in NA quals.... man wtf is that drafting about. mainly the warlock mid obsession, the last game it was 2nd picked. pretty sure that only works if it's a mindgame core or support thing, instead of a telegraphed singsing WL mid. also, sing really needs to be on a farming mid, like the alch they ran. he's really good at tinker, dunno why they didn't try that

Lol Navi. They literally just had an about to disband throw in first qualifier.

yeah, I have no clue wtf bone7 was doing, his drafting was really out there and he played so poorly. It's weird how a team wins every single game with Zai/Pieliedie and then turns to a horrible mess with a lesser support, it can't all be on that player's individual skill drop off.
To be fair, Bone7 himself said that he's not a good captain and doesn't want to do it.

leaving out zai and iceice should be a considered a crime

those guys are good too but i dont consider them support specialists in the same way as those others are. both could also be in the running for top offlaners

puppey/akke should be mentioned too, tho thats more historical. well maybe not for puppey if he starts practicing again Kappa

oh yeah zFreek is highly regarded as well


apparently navi media guy is tweeting the team is gonna disband

I'm not really sure I'd take any support over Zai right now, doesn't really matter to me if he's considered a specialist or not, the guy has been insane since he came back

Where can I go to download replays and watch professional supports doing their thing in a first person perspective?

My support game is extremely weak, and I've been forced into the role quite a bit recently with 5 stacks I've joined.

i'd check out PPD replays from TI6. he pretty much mains poverty 5 support, not the flashiest player but extremely good positioning and decisions


Alliance vs Liquid EU quals: did Kuro and Matu really just randomly switch roles? or a computer switch, seems way more likely

secret and liquid really crushing so far.

Would be neat if they both made it out of the qualifiers. (**** puppey still tho)

Team NP just got outdrafted by Team Freedom (imo) by bloodseeker and sniper picks. New meta
edit: oh wait they are losing now. maybe not LUL

Also Pugna is big in Asia? Not sure why though. He does have amazing movement speed and spells

ye a decent amount of BS and especially sniper lately.

Youre right about pugna it still hasnt crossed yet lol

man everyone on the BTS stream is ****ting on dragon lance BS when it's so obvious he's building into hurricane pike which is amazing on BS FailFish

fookin' Dunning-Kruger triggered


damn OD is just as good a dazzle counter as Axe

now that BS is entering the meta a bit more, i wonder if teams will catch onto Lone Druid + BS. BS rupture, then bear runs in and fears (+20% movespeed run for 2.4 sec) = tons of dmg

But then you have bloodseeker AND lone druid all for the synergy/ meh gimmicks of a 60s cd (iirc) single target ultimate :-/

edit: ah i see you are saying they are meh meta-wise. well there are teams running LD nowadays (coL) and people are starting to realize BS is actually OP right now. as an LD main i never think the hero is weak ofc

ain't nothing wrong with those two heroes together... it's not just a single target, the LD would have radiance (standard on druid imo). being able to get massive single target damage along with radiance burn on everyone would be amazing, since it's very little risk with a rupture cast and spirit bear running in (the druid hero doesn't even have to be there, this is another way to give the bear tons of power without even needing to attack)

plus if BS gets aghs he can hit two targets close together and then bear runs in for insane double target dmg

i just think that LD's skill actually synergizes with rupture better than anything, and with rupture as pure dmg (and the dmg has been buffed recently) it'd be quite OP. hell maybe throw in a KOTL and blinding light people as well


another good BS combo would be with aforementioned Pugna. run BS in the jungle and rush dagon, get Pugna to level up decrepify and then just run around bursting everyone with decrep + bloodrage'd dagon. would basically be a eth blade combo but you could make it happen super early. it also scales since bloodrage and decrep both provide more damage with more levels.

I don't understand all NA vs EU **** you see on reddit. Like as if anyone from Europe cares about EU Dota. We're all from different countries, I am no more likely to support a swede than an American. Also to make it more ******ed they keep mocking EU Dota for no top 8 at TI. Erm DC? Even EG isn't really NA now, it's an international team, 2 EU, two NA and a Pakistani. Who cares where a team in terms of the organisation is based? It doesn't make sense to support organisations in esports, it's not like regular sport. So basically like who gives a ****? Who supports a friggin region Rofl? Did this come from LoL or something. So annoying thank God there is none of it here.

Haha. Is that the only meme that makes no sense to you? AFAIK it started with perennial LOL NA (as in LOL NA ULT which is bound to appear in every busy Twitchat at least every 10 minutes) but perhaps it's now Europe's turn to suffer the memes.

And as for none of it here, it's no different than valenzuela rooting for his CONMEBOL friends and a lot of people subsequently pretending to like their football confederation as a whole

oh wow i cant believe this happened

to EE invoker of anyone in the world

jesus

https://clips.twitch.tv/beyondthesum...uinSuperVinlin

and now theyre about to lose