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12-29-2010 , 06:48 PM
johnnytt - i think your gap is too big between flop cbet % and turn. i think it was Split who has commented that this should be closer to ~25% or so. dont quote me on that % but its quite a bit less than where you are now.

scale back flop cbet, double more.
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12-29-2010 , 09:11 PM
over a 50k sample my cbet turn is higher than my cbet flop

cbet turn 68

cbet flop 54

overall cbet succes is 49%
How is that so? can you tell if im doing something wrong here?

Is my cbet success low?

Thank you
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12-29-2010 , 11:33 PM
I moved up to 10NL about a month ago, and have had horrible results of late. In reviewing my stats, I'm seeing too little aggression on the turn and river. I think this may be a result of overestimating showdown value. I also see maybe too high cbet% at 80%. My fold to 3bet% I think is too low (63.2%, not shown), given that I clearly do not play well postflop. I looked at my stats when calling a 3bet, and found very bad results, so I reviewed the 3bet and respond to 3bet COTWs.

Any other observations or suggestions are most welcome:

Results (ugh):



Overall stats:


Postflop overall:



Postflop when calling 3bet:

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12-30-2010 , 12:04 AM
I'm surprised how nitty these stats are getting.

Would think after 43k hands my PFR would be a little higher.

I'm opening AQ+, 77+ UTG
All pairs, A10s+, KQs, from MP,
All pairs, Axs, Suited Broadways, and some MSCs from LP

Depending on BB's FTS stats, I might steal w/ atc from CO or Btn... Although I have been 4tabling 25nl rush lately and sometimes neglect the stats a little bit...

For anybody winning at Rush, what is a good winrate over a large sample?

Can you point me toward filling some leaks in here?





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12-30-2010 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by arsenal6
over a 50k sample my cbet turn is higher than my cbet flop

cbet turn 68

cbet flop 54

overall cbet succes is 49%
How is that so? can you tell if im doing something wrong here?

Is my cbet success low?

Thank you
You cbetting the turn 68% of all given oppotunity. If you db EVERY time then it would show up as 100%, so it is possible to have a higher turn cbet than flop cbet.
From your cbetting tendancy you cbetting mainly made hands and db alot of turn. This means alot of regs will just not peel a flop when facing your cbet knowing a turn cbet is highly likely.
This can also mean you are getting floated alot by monsters, and you are not pot-controlling the turn with WA/WB situations.

I hazard a guess you have a pretty tight stats overall.
Oh, my cbet success is 51%...I heard thats normal.
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12-30-2010 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket4skin

I'm opening AQ+, 77+ UTG
All pairs, A10s+, KQs, from MP,
All pairs, Axs, Suited Broadways, and some MSCs from LP
Preflop
Raise 6.98%
Call 4.84%

That's far too passive ... that might be the correct number of pots to get involved with but you are calling too much.

More aggression pre will help a lot

Last edited by Mingdu; 12-30-2010 at 11:04 AM. Reason: bad math lol
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12-30-2010 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sexdotcom
You cbetting the turn 68% of all given oppotunity. If you db EVERY time then it would show up as 100%, so it is possible to have a higher turn cbet than flop cbet.
From your cbetting tendancy you cbetting mainly made hands and db alot of turn. This means alot of regs will just not peel a flop when facing your cbet knowing a turn cbet is highly likely.
This can also mean you are getting floated alot by monsters, and you are not pot-controlling the turn with WA/WB situations.

I hazard a guess you have a pretty tight stats overall.
Oh, my cbet success is 51%...I heard thats normal.
Thank you. I definitely read up on wa/wb situations. I tried looking for a cotw on wa/wb but couldn't find one. Anyone know if there is one?
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12-31-2010 , 02:59 AM
Thru 72K, I just noticed I have a glaring problem w/ 22-77. I mostly coldcall w/ these when I "have the right odds". Usually if the raise is at least 20x the villains effective stack and I know I'm not going to get squeezed I call and try to set mine. Apparently I'm doing this wrong or running extremely cold.

I'm way way way ahead in early position (where I limp 22-77 70% of the time) @ +407.92 BB/100. Then:

MP: -5.37BB/100
CO: -144.12BB/100
BTN: -131.58BB/100

How do I find out what I'm doing wrong? I don't usually bet at the raiser unless I come up w/ an overpair on the flop. I was considering cold-calling more SC's and some Suited gappers if the raise is 25x the effective stacks but after reviewing these stats maybe not. Should I re-evaluate how big the villain's stack is vs their raise?
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12-31-2010 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BWillie
I'm way way way ahead in early position (where I limp 22-77 70% of the time) @ +407.92 BB/100. Then:
What stakes do you play? I didn't think open limping with small PP is profitable but I may change my strats because alot of people do it.
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12-31-2010 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sexdotcom
What stakes do you play? I didn't think open limping with small PP is profitable but I may change my strats because alot of people do it.
I think this method is far too transparent. I usually ISO them and find out real quick whether or not they hit.

This is profitable.
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12-31-2010 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sexdotcom
What stakes do you play? I didn't think open limping with small PP is profitable but I may change my strats because alot of people do it.
NL10. It's been profitable both ways in EP per my HEM, but actually been a little more profitable when I raise in EP but not by a large margin. I only raise about 25% of the time though. Maybe I should raise more, it just sucks getting 3-bet light w/ 22-66.
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01-01-2011 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stry67
Wondering how bad my calling 3bets is? Yea I know my blind play needs work as well. All comments appreciated.

sigh, no love
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01-01-2011 , 09:01 PM
Please help me...





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01-03-2011 , 04:36 PM
does anyone have any players screennames that play both on fulltilt and stars 200nl. I was hoping to analyze some graphs. Thanks in advance.
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01-04-2011 , 03:06 PM
Can someone please help me, I feel like i'm going mad, can someone tell me if I'm playing good, every time I move up to nl50 I get crushed, down around $1.5k life at nl50 this is my play over the last couple of days. If I'm just running bad over this small sample that's ok but it would do me a lot of good if someone could confirm that, or point out obvious leaks.

The nl25 was pretty tilty so that's fine, I'm interested in the nl50


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01-05-2011 , 10:45 AM
If you played normal I'd offer to help, but rush is a beast I've never tried to master. I never understood why you gave up hud advantage to play rush...
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01-05-2011 , 08:21 PM
Ok I think I need some opinions, I am struggling in 25NL, not sure if running bad or playing bad, I crush 10NL for a v decent WR over a large sample, but crushed at 25NL, I get 3bet alot, cant spot when is it light and when they actually have it!

Anybody want to help??




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01-05-2011 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by playertee
I get 3bet alot, cant spot when is it light and when they actually have it!
Just fold to 3bets when you OOP unless the guy has a redic high 3bet like 6%+
Add some flatting of 3bets when you in LP and they in the blinds.
You can beat 25NL by just folding to all 3bets when you OOP, and only 4bet with KK+
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01-06-2011 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gullanian
If I'm just running bad over this small sample that's ok but it would do me a lot of good if someone could confirm that, or point out obvious leaks.
Position stats would be interesting but the two things I notice is are

1) vpip is at 15.27 while your pfr is at 10.77 in the .50c game. Too wide of a gap ... tighten that up by raising/folding more pre

2) Attempt to steal should be ~30% and not mid 20's
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01-06-2011 , 04:40 PM
Hi everyone!

I've been playing poker for about a year and decided to to take it more serious lately. I could finally sign up after stalking for a while.

Currently I'm playing 5NL FR and attaching my positional stats. Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd be happy to provide other stats if desired. I accidentally posted this also at the 6max/hu forum's stats thread.

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01-06-2011 , 07:00 PM
a.a. - continuation bet more flops 42% is very low. play more hands from BU/CO, especially by coming in for a raise. could probably use some work in the blinds, but then again who couldn't. good luck.
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01-06-2011 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by a.a.
Hi everyone!

I've been playing poker for about a year and decided to to take it more serious lately. I could finally sign up after stalking for a while.

Currently I'm playing 5NL FR and attaching my positional stats. Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd be happy to provide other stats if desired. I accidentally posted this also at the 6max/hu forum's stats thread.

A couple of things:
  • Your cbet-percentage is really low, in particular since you raise only 9% of hands. In many spots you can bet the flop even when you miss. This is a major source of income at these levels. I'd like to see that number around 75% instead of 42%.
  • Your aggression is really low at 1.7. At the same time you win a lot of showdowns (although the sample size is small for that statistic). This indicates that you call a lot of bets, but still fold when it gets to the river.
  • You win some of your blinds back, but not much. There may be some potential for improvement there.
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01-06-2011 , 07:42 PM
playertee - flop cbet % is low. looks like you call too many 3bets. 4bet/fold especially OOP. your fold to raise on the flop looks low to me (but get someone else to double check that, i'm not 100% sure).
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01-06-2011 , 08:46 PM
Past two months I've played 60k hands at NL25 rush @FTP. I've got 3.23BB/100 winrate with which i'm satisfied for now. I'm, however, concerned/curious about my large negative non-SD winnings (shown in the first img). Is this normal? I also post other stats...

W$WSF 41.11
WTSD 22.8
W$SD 53.67





Thanks!
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01-07-2011 , 03:15 AM
Serious question. I filtered the 90,000 hands I have played @ 5NL, 10NL, & 25NL, and deselected AA from the list. It showed that I was a -1.73 BB/100 hands loser. If I take out KK it even gets worse. Yet I am a 2.75 BB/100 winner overall. I imagine that is somewhat normal, but I am discouraged. So what I take from this is all of the other hands I play are just a way to mix up, bullsh*t and disguise our premium hands.
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