lol at this. So basically you know absolutely nothing about the quality of the watch and will just buy whatever is expensive for some reason

But you won't haggle on a retail purchase?

People think you're a troll because you post this sort of aloof selfcontradictory nonsense. Just saying.

And this ties into whatever ****ing point you think you were making how, exactly?

This. Seriously.

Dude should just buy a Jacob and co. since they charge $10k+ for a basic $11 quartz watch. Clearly they must've awesome.

Cliffnotes: Joseph A. Bank, ergo something something bill gates has to pay double.

Yes, I hadnt done research on it and assumed the price to be roughly reflecting the quality.
I am still not convinced that the quality is worse, but they try to compete by price.

I was talking about the pricing differnces in American and European retail markets.
You should have been able to see this by reading the post I was replying to.

Since pvn and dkgo are in the thread:

Spurious

What? So when you thought it cost $10k you were sure it was a quality item but then you found out its only $8k so meh probably not (but even if it is, poor people with only $8k could buy it so who wants that)???

No, I think it's bad customer service if you advertise something for 25% to 33% more than it should cost.
Relative to other brands, I would pay a premium purely for the brand.

Wait, when you say "what it should cost" wtf are you talking about?

If you like overpaying then Jacob and co is up your alley.

Haha

They ask for 100%, but give discounts as low as 75%, so 75% is the price it should be costing, if they were fair to every customer.


The way you discuss is very strange, it's quite obvious that most of your posts are in Politics.

Could you elaborate what your point is beyond the fact that discounts do exist (I wasnt aware of them beforehand and admitted to that) and people should ask for it?

I don't see how that follows. Why shouldn't it be 100% if they were being fair?





I think my other points are:

* you speak authoritatively about a bunch of stuff you don't really know much about
* most people would heavily discount any advice you give if they knew (as you've made clear in this thread) that spending a lot of money is more important to you than the quality of the item you buy.

It should be 100%, if that's what they think their price should be to almost every customer. But they think the price that every customer should pay is at least 75%.

I dont agree with treating the customer that way.

You cant really articulate what points you are trying to make.
The first point is a weird criticism, since you do the exact same thing and almost everyone with an opinion does it.
A discussion always has the goal to result in the closest opinion to the perceived truth by exchanging the participants' opinions.

In the discussion about discounted watch prices, this seems to be your opinion. Although, I still have reservations about this due to geographical differences.

The second point is just plainly wrong. I dont even understand where you got this from.

I am not against saving money if it doesn't involve behaving in a way that I find offensive or does not inconvenience others. I consider haggling in a North American retail to be pathetic behaviour so no I will not do it. The difference between a sale and haggling is fairly obvious yet you are not the first person to fail to grasp the difference.

What way? Working with people to make a sale? Being flexible? Yeah, that sounds like a real ******* move to me.

Probably when you said you would rather pay a premium

And nobody else ITT seems to be having trouble grasping my points.

Everything is a negotiation. If losing all of them makes your ego somehow feel better well that's more on the table for those of us who aren't afraid to work deals.

pvn, never leave SL

I dont want to negotiate the price for every single item I buy. I find this to be very disrespectful.
You seem to imply that you are stupid for paying full price. Why is the manufacturer not the idiot for treating their customers badly?

I honestly dont get your whole attitude. Why is it sensible for a merchant to reward people who haggle (in some cases hours) over a price over people who take up very limited time and pay promptly what they were initially asked to pay?

You have misunderstood what I said:
The paying premium part was referring to the fact that when I pay full price, 25% to 33% are solely a brand premium that I could have avoided.

LOL

If you don't want to haggle then don't. It's fine with me.

The reason I think you're dumb is that you dug in about discounting not actually existing in this market until long after you were shown to be wrong.



I dunno. But they do it so they must see some value in it

Hint: they aren't "rewarding" the negotiators. They're TRYING TO MAKE A SALE because they prefer a discounted sale to no sale.


You could avoid it but that seems to offend your delicate sensibilities.

lol at Spurious. Doesn't even understand basic economics here. A brand wanting to maximize their profits? No way. Why would they sell it at $8k if they can get a high percentage of those same people that would buy it at $10k?

+1

For one this isnt treating customers badly. Even if it were, it doesnt matter unless it has a negative impact on sales

The retailers goal is to make as much profit as they can

This is generally done by selling as many units as possible at the highest margin possible

Ideally, they would be able to discriminate perfectly and sell to each customer at the maximum they are willing to pay

Since this is unrealistic, they set a price above the margin needed. Some people are willing to pay this price. Nothing wrong with this since each person assigns their own value to the haggling process so if you really really hate it then you would go ahead and pay sticker. Others arent willing to pay the list. Those others may attempt to negotiate a lower price which the company can accept or reject depending on whatever factors they want but if they still are making money they are likely to accept. Setting the price at the bare minimum you would accept is a massive negative freeroll

The problem with discounting to hagglers is that it comes at the potential cost of losing the customers you actually want. Perfect example was a local club that was supposed to bring real club experience to my ****ty little city. For the first few month it kind of did but then they started offering discounts and allowing people in on the cheap. What happened was that the place got full of low margin cheapskates and the people who were actually profitable to have stopped going. The end result was even though they had more people they were making a lot less money and they closed. This is what despite being obvious a lot of people didn't realize about Groupon -- catering to bargain seekers is a losing proposition.

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