Yeah that set of road results is disturbing. Not as a bettor, I'm not planning on betting any playoff games at this point, but just as a hater of the Niners who wants the Saints to win.

49ers are the second worst team in the playoffs ATM.


Disko, none of those results are LOLbad. Bucs are good team with a **** coach that gave up halfway through the season. Josh Freeman was a really good QB in 2010 and had a bad year this time around. The GB loss was the first game of the season and was close. Carolina is not that bad of a team either and was close. The Atlanta OT win is a very good win.


Tennessee is not that bad of a team, so the only really bad loss was to the Rams.

They haven't been lol bad at all. They've been probably above average on the road, it just looks bad when they are dominating teams night in and night out at the Superdome.


49ers have some bad games too. Lost to the Cardinals. Almost lost to the Seahawks. 7 point Rams game on the final game where they were actually trying. And a fairly easy home schedule.

3rd imo

Saw posted in another thread that the Saints have covered 9 straight games, and SF's offense is awful. Saints awesome OL vs Niners elite front line should be interesting but I'm all over NO in this game I think.

Even as someone committed to cheering against them in every remaining game they have this year (hopefully only one), I don't buy this. 49ers > Giants, Texans, Broncos. The Giants comparison is close but the 49ers have just been so much more consistent in their high level of play throughout the year.

Texans are better in defense and offense. 49ers do have the best rush defense, but their pass defense is quite worse than the Texans who are top 5 in all categories and are 2nd in YPG behind the Steelers in the regular season. Texans also have the 2nd best rushing yards behind Denver. Texans are also 13th in total offense and 49ers are 26th. If Schaub was still playing, this wouldn't even be close to which team is better.

The Giants are probably worse looking at overall numbers, but they've seen to find their stride after that 4 game losing streak against solid teams. Obviously Broncos are the worst team still in it. A team like the Broncos still in it just proves that there is a lot of variance in the NFL.

The 49ers are just products of an easy schedule and good coaching. Plus they have no playoff experience. The only reason this game is going to be close is because it's being played in SF and not NO, even though NO is clearly the better team.

A quick eyeball of the Texans and 49ers schedules shows more easy games for Houston than SF, and both had five against eventual playoff teams.

As easy to relatively easy games go...
I see Houston playing Indy twice, Jacksonville twice, Miami and Tampa.
I see SF playing St. Louis twice, Tampa, Cleveland and Washington.

I don't know what their respective statistical strengths of schedules are, but if SF's success is a product of an easy schedule then it sure appears that so is Houston's.

As to coaching, I have no idea why you would include that in the sentence since obviously coaching is always one key component of how good or bad a team truly is. It's not like Harbaugh is going to call in sick this weekend. I also don't know why you mention "if Schaub were playing" as if that's relevant to now when he's on the IR.

My conclusion is that you have undoubtedly put down a futures bet on Houston to win the Super Bowl because you like to talk yourself into gambling on -EV longshots and that's when you start lawyering for teams like this.

I might watch the 49ers on Saturday...probably won't

Yes, good coaching is important, but that means their actual talent is masked behind an easy schedule and good coaching. That just means they could easily lose their game to the Saints since they don't have a very good team.

SoS for Texans was tied at 10th, and 49ers were 30th coming into the season.

Texans may have played Indy twice, but the 49ers played the Rams twice. Both played in ****ty divisions this year. Texans also lost to NO at the Superdome by 7.

Let's not forget that their last few games of the season they were without Wade Phillips. The difference is that the Texans have really good players and good coaching. The 49ers have good coaching but some not so good players.

Come on goofy, you have to watch something while you're waiting for hockey season to really start.

Well anyway Gus, not interested in defending the 49ers any further since I can't stand them. I'm just not one to create arguments to fit what I want to be the truth.

I would say the 49ers and Texans could potentially be close in quality, but in terms of who is more likely to move on to the conference championships, it's SF and it's not even close. There's a reason that the futures line indicates Houston's chances to be less than half as good as SF's to win it all. Winning at home vs. New Orleans is way easier to do than winning on the road at Baltimore.

But by all means go place your bet because OMG big shiny payout at the end of the rainbow.

Considering the Texans could play the Denver Tebows, then yes. I just see good value in the Texans whereas teams like the Giants are getting horrible odds and have to go through GB and possibly NO and then a solid AFC team.

Of course the 49ers have the better chance to advance since they are playing at home while the Texans are on the road, but I still think the Texans are a better team. If they had a healthy Schaub right now, there's no question.

sagarin has houston playing the easiest schedule in the nfl (49ers not much better at 29th)

with schaub houston is probably better than SF, but they dont have him so theres no point in talking about it.

Yeah, the "with Schaub" business is pointless. Schaub is basically no different than any other player that isn't on the team right now that they'll pick up during the offseason. I don't know why he keeps being mentioned.

Only have to point out Schaub because everyone focuses on Yates and ignores the rest of the team's strengths. Schaub just makes them really, really good, instead of just really good.

TJ Yates is their Trent Dilfer. Schaub is a bonus, but they could still win without him.

Of course, that Baltimore team had one of the best defenses of all time and broke records.

I think people are generally aware that Schaub has a good team around him. It's not like he's elite, so I don't think people are just thinking of that team as the Houston Fighting Schaubs.

The Sharks play at 4 on Saturday, I guess I might watch the first half of the 49ers game

Bucks need to upset San Antonio tonight or else I'm throwing in the towel on the season.

With a win we'd still be undefeated at home. 33-33 at the worst.

Are the Sharks running scrimmages, or are there actual preseason games being played now?

I think you mistake me for a Red Wings fan, as they're the ones that don't ever watch the games until the playoffs start (or are Canucks fans the same way?)

GL I kinda like the bucks for whatever reason and always home they are somewhat relevant

Also I added Al Harrington from the nuggets to one of my fantasy teams, expecting him to help

Nah Canucks fans in Canada are rabid year-round. I'm mostly relegated to scoreboard-watching though because the NHL online package is too high of a ransom.

But NBA and NHL regular seasons are silly in their combo of being really long and then still letting half the league into the playoffs.

Isn't the whole Eastern Conference always somewhat relevant for like 15 years straight now? Not that I'll lower myself to watching and finding out.