Thanks mate... thought about cooking her dinner here tonight but after reading this thread def agree thats not the best play at this point. Just gonna keep it as casual and low key as possible even though its tough cuz I really like her! Feeling very confident though so not too worried about it

Davies in Toronto? I thought you stopped practicing a long time ago.

To be accurate I never actually started. I matched but then never went though with it.

That being said yes that was a reference to the Davies in Toronto although they are no longer Davies Ward & Beck -- they dropped the Beck some years ago and added two new names.

I think you might have missed that my post was a response to how I would deal with The-fryke's situation in the post above it and not an announcement that I was making a triumphant return to the world of Toronto law.

lol sorry, I'm planning on applying to Davies as a summer so that's all I saw in your post.

It is a great firm. If you summer there you are pretty much set unless you do something seriously ****ed up.

I think you've been out of the game for too long. Its well known among law students that Davies is a sweat lodge - more than the other sisters at least.

All of them are. I had friends at Cassels Brock that were putting in 90-100 hours a week for most of their articling.

Getting into any of the sisters for a summer program means you're golden but even among the sisters Stikeman and Davies were considered the top two.

Sounds so miserable. Getting back into law terrifies me. Might avoid it for a little longer

thoughts on reinitiating with women you haven't seen in 6+ months? haven't been in contact with a few since i moved abroad and i don't want to send a text with "hey what's up" or something lame.

there really a forum about this....wow i been gone way too long

^^In the same position with a girl I haven't talked to in a while and dont want to send that text either, so am interested in opinions

At least have some substance in the text - inside joke, something that links you with the girl, etc. This actually happened by accident but a few months ago I was cleaning out the trunk of my car and found one of those cheap metal head massager things in there - a girl I hadn't talked to in 3-4 months used to love using it whenever she was at my place so I texted her a picture of it and a line like "remember this? what have you been up to?" type text and it went over pretty well.

and it ended with you banging her amirite?

ya y'alls radar is right on. Don't just be like "ummm hi." Bring some sort of substance into the open

Ok so Ive i guess im in sort of a weird situation. I was hooking up with basically the hottest girl ive ever been with for all of last school year (freshman year FTW). I really had strong feelings for her and eventually I found out she was cheating on me at the end of the year (well i guess not cheating on me because we werent bf gf officially but it felt that way to me at least; we were pretty close, spending almost every weekend together, texting all the time and stuff). Well our "relationship" ended pretty uglily and we went our separate ways with summer break approaching, I said some pretty mean things to her (i was probably immature in how i handled it but I was pissed). So I was obv pretty upset about it at first but I got over it over the summer. Fast forward to this year, Ive obviously run into to her and weve been friendly and texted a little bit despite the rocky ending last year. She even suggested that we should "hang out soon". Not really sure if she means just as friends or not. Well then the other night I run into her at a bar and she was with some other guy. For some reason it really hurt to see (even though I really should just be over her by now and I didnt think seeing that would have that effect on me).
I have a feeling that if I wanted to I could start getting with her again (maybe I'm wrong though), but is that wise? I dont really want to have to deal with all the drama of last year all over again. Shes proven to me that she is very far from trustworthy. Should I just remove all contact I have with her save for the friendly hello when I pass her around school or out. It's hard for me because I really did like this girl a ton and we had some pretty awesome memories from last year and I had and probably still do have feelings for her. All of my friends give me crap for even considering talking to her again, maybe they are right?

How has she broken your trust(If she didnt promise to be exclusive)? Im confused. Your whole line of thing is beta and this all stems from having one option.

Heres what I gathered from everything:

- You fool around for a long time
- Things are never more than fooling around(at least explicitly)
- You seem to think her sleeping with another guy is 'cheating' and 'breaks your trust'

This is wrong thinking. You assuming your exclusive and then 'cheating' on you doesnt break trust, it means you have delusions. Unless you had talked about being exclusive she did nothing wrong.

Its also fairly obvious that you like her(may be a case of only girl showing interest or maybe you genuinely like her), either way, your now saying you dont want to deal with drama so you dont know if you want to pursue having sex(hooking up?) with her again because of this. If you like her, at this point in your relationship you either have to figure out where shes at, if its not the same and she just wnats to hook up, cut off contact, if she has feelings then go from there. Twiddling your thumbs wondering what she thinks and how to play it is a waste of time.

its obviously you cant NSA sex with her so unless you are gonna be reciprocated you need to cut off contact or you are just going to torture yourself and this may have long term effects on your beta level.

Also how does one go a year hooking up with a girl and never have a conversation about what exactly your relationship is. With all my booty calls either one of us mentioned it was NSA/nothing serious, within the first 4 sleep overs.

0% chance you will ever become exclusive with her. agree with what c custer said.

me too except for all the beta bull****

You lie with dogs and you'll get fleas.

This girl is getting stuffed by half the campus and you want to associate with this breathing **** doll? Disgusting! Get away from this trash and stop becoming attached to items like disposable cups and paper plates.

driftin,

She didn't cheat or do anything wrong.The problem is with you. Normally the correct course of action would be to keep having casual sex with her but since you seem to lack the ability to do that without getting all emotional you should just be friendly but that is it.

thanks for the responses guys. I really think that I'm just looking for an actual relationship this year and this is probably not the girl to even pursue such with given the history. And yeah I dont think I'm the type of guy who can just have casual sex without getting all emotional. Will probably just be friendly with her from now on. And I guess she didnt cheat on me but still it sucked.

So D came over last night around 7, we started drinking hanging out, ended up watching Silent House, a pretty crappy "horror" movie with a terrible ending, but stars the Olsen twins little sister so that made it pretty bearable. I was trying to escalate kino and touching throughout with moderate success, I'm making her laugh tons and we're getting along good, eventually she's leaning on my shoulder and ****, after the movie she says lets watch something else so she picks "Strange Sex" on TLC of all things LOL. She mentions she has to go soon cuz her parents are texting her freaking out, 1st day of class for her today at 9am. Feels like I'm back in high school but whatever. I'm trying to figure out how to go for it cuz I suck at going for 1st kiss, 1st commercial I look over and say how I hate commercials and we don't have to watch them-- she doesn't seem to really get it lol. Finally some teeth whitening ad comes on and she mentions something about it, so I say lets check out your teeth and finally she looks over at me and I go right in. She's into it and we make out for like 15 minutes then she says sorry but i have to go... shows me her mom's texts freaking out lol. I try to get her to stay longer but no dice but she mentions its syllabus week so she's not doing much and we should save it for later. She leaves and gives me a big hug and we kiss one more time pretty nice.

as soon as she leaves she texts me "ha ha you're awesome sorry I couldn't stay longer" which I guess is good... she keeps texting me all night pretty much even at 5am saying ahhh she cant sleep picturing stuff from the movie and ****.

obv was hoping for more but cant complain... like I said she's very shy (tho not around me anymore but anytime meeting new people and such) and seems pretty inexperienced... maybe even virgin but not sure. obv gonna back off a bit now-- she's clearly into me and I'm sure I'll see her again soon.

I'm bad at this. Serious question, how do you have casual/regular sex with a girl without getting too emotional.

i think that if two people are hanging out every weekend, spending all their time together and essentially holding themselves out as "in a relationship" then they owe it to one another to be upfront about sleeping with other people. it's not a question of whether it's "allowed" or not; it's a matter of honesty. if he asks were she's going on X night on a night she was with another guy, i guarantee she didn't say "with mr. x". again, it's "allowed" but it's dishonest. generally this isn't an issue for guys since we have every incentive in the world to not limit ourselves to one girl, so the longer you can go with both of you hooking up with different people the better off you are. sounds like OP actually cares though.

girls peak (physically) at like 21. if you wife a girl up when she's 22 or 23 or whatever, it's all downhill from there on out. there's a never-ending supply of 21 year old girls (indeed, there's a new batch every year) who are looking to have fun.

high-value men have like a 15 year window where they should be able to pull girls in their low-mid 20s.