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Old 01-18-2012, 11:04 PM   #51
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Looks like I won't be playing the 7-game. Just an absolutely idiotic structure.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:10 PM   #52
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Wow, unlimited re-entry for event #1 up until the 9th level. I predict a bloodbath. Should be fun. O/U at 3200 entrants?
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:27 PM   #53
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Also considering staying in Indiana. Sort of have it narrowed down to a couple hotels, one in Merrillville, and one in Portage. Both are nearly identical distances from the Shoe according to maquest (35ish minutes). Which town do you think would be nicer for a visitor to stay in? Or should I not stay in Indiana at all and focus on southeast Chicago?
Imho portage is a perfect location, some nice new hotels that are literally right off I-90 and makes your commute very simple and fast. Both are pretty similar in how nice/safe they are as long as you aren't staying on the merriville/gary border. I would pick a hotel in portage right off I-90 but either way you should be fine. I'm not too familiar with the ILL parts that you are looking into staying.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:34 PM   #54
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Looks like I won't be playing the 7-game. Just an absolutely idiotic structure.
I don't understand this. Because the blind levels aren't perfect? It's 1-hr levels. It's 20k starting chips. You can adapt to the structure - which is slow anyway - and play accordingly. I cashed in this event last year, and it was nice that the limit events were as significant - if not more so - than nlh/plo.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:32 PM   #55
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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I don't understand this. Because the blind levels aren't perfect? It's 1-hr levels. It's 20k starting chips. You can adapt to the structure - which is slow anyway - and play accordingly. I cashed in this event last year, and it was nice that the limit events were as significant - if not more so - than nlh/plo.
What? Limit rounds are way less significant. Look at WSOP 10-game for comparison:

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/WSOPC/2010/11494-structure.pdf

The big bet games have a BB about half of the limit games. Without that 5/7 of the time you are playing for lower stakes. I don't even care about how quick it goes. They could start with the levels doubled for the limit games, just so long as it actually fits with the big bet games.
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Old 01-22-2012, 01:33 PM   #56
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What? Limit rounds are way less significant. Look at WSOP 10-game for comparison:

http://www.wsop.com/pdfs/WSOPC/2010/11494-structure.pdf

The big bet games have a BB about half of the limit games. Without that 5/7 of the time you are playing for lower stakes. I don't even care about how quick it goes. They could start with the levels doubled for the limit games, just so long as it actually fits with the big bet games.
Oh wait. I did that backwards. I see what you're saying. I didn't really notice it as a problem last year though. It gives you more maneuverability in the limit games. And the limit pots aren't just raise. Fold fold fold. There's flops and there's play.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:16 PM   #57
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

I'll be there for the entire thing despite the lack of reasonable nlhe tourneys.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:55 PM   #58
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

this is the best run series i've been to
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:41 PM   #59
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Couple specific hotel questions, if anyone versed in Chicago can give me some input.

Toying with the idea of staying at a chain I like in the Lombard/Oak Brook area. Mapquest says my drive between here and the Shoe would be 51 minutes for 36 miles (using IL-110 and Interstate I-90). Does this really sound feasible (considering most of my driving would be none rush hour), or is this way off?

Also considering staying in Indiana. Sort of have it narrowed down to a couple hotels, one in Merrillville, and one in Portage. Both are nearly identical distances from the Shoe according to maquest (35ish minutes). Which town do you think would be nicer for a visitor to stay in? Or should I not stay in Indiana at all and focus on southeast Chicago?

I'm considering the Doubletree in Alsip as well, but one friend told me that's not the greatest area either, so I dunno...I personally figured it would be ok, but only been to Midway area once 10 years ago and don't really remember anything.

From what I've read here and other places, I really don't want to stay too much closer to the casino, as the areas might be a bit shady. Hearsay I know, but will have a car so no harm driving a few more minutes if my stay is substantially more comfortable. Thanks in advance.
Completely disagree, any hotel in Indiana is skeezy. And if its half way decent, you realize you are in Indiana as soon as you step out the door. Oakbrook has a nice mall, some good restaurants and very nice affordable hotels.

Traffic for noon events wont be an issue. Give yourself 1.5 hours, take 88 to 290 to 90/94 towards Indiana and then Skyway. You will make it just fine, I live in a suburb west of Oakbrook and make it in less than one hour at that time.

Finally, ALWAYS preregister, so you never have to wait in line and even if you get stuck in traffic, you will be fine because of the good structure of these tourneys.

My two cents, if you want something a lot nice for the same price as a crappy indinana motel, do it.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:04 AM   #60
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

If anyone is interested in staying right downtown Chicago within a 5 minute walk of the Horseshoe shuttle for a better rate than a hotel, PM me.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:00 AM   #61
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Some of you guys seriously need to grow a sack.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #62
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Some of you guys seriously need to grow a sack.
I can't confirm or deny the surroundings of the casino but I can say that if you aren't staying in chicago, it makes little to no sense to stay 30-45 mins away from the venue.. is it really that bad there?
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:19 PM   #63
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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+1, that sounds like a better plan. Chicago traffic is completely unpredictable, and you could be in heavy traffic at pretty much any hour of the day.
Hampton Inn Munster
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Old 01-27-2012, 09:22 PM   #64
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

It's right on the lake in a very industrial area. I didn't have any issues when there for the WSOP-C back in October, however, I typically don't venture out much at these events. With that being said, I plan on staying south about 30 minutes. I'm a rec. player on a budget, and $33 a night at a Super 8 wins.

I really wish they would change the name of Event 1 to what it really is...I like re-entry tournaments, until they start calling re-buy with rake tournaments re-entry. Unlimited Re-Entry = Unlimited Rebuy with Rake...
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Old 01-28-2012, 03:57 PM   #65
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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bah, its kind of a stale argument. If they offered really low starting chips and an add-on and double add on and charged rake on them than you would have a serious argument. As it stands now the structure is slow so that if you bust you got coolered or played poorly. and whoever is reentering 5 times is just a ton of money away to the prize pool and the house.

Although, I like rebuy tournaments the argument against them by people is that the people with big bankrolls can buy a huge stack. In a re-entry format this problem does not exist.

So i really don't think its all that wrong to just look at it like playing two or three tournaments.
Completely right. Also important to note that in a re-entry each buy in counts as a separate entry, so more spots pay than in a rebuy.

Each time you enter or re-enter in these tournaments it is essentially a discrete decision. Say you initially enter at noon on day 1a when 800 player had registered, then you bust in 2 hours. Now there are 1000 entrants and you are 3 blind levels in. The decision of whether or not to re-enter at that point, is no different than if you had just arrived 2 hours late to the venue. The only exception is that if losing the initial 240 dipped your bankroll below the level that you would feel comfortable paying another 240.
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:01 PM   #66
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Alright, probably going to be here for the 3k main and maybe the turbo on monday. looking forward to it
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Old 01-28-2012, 09:57 PM   #67
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fwiw, on hotels.com you can get a room at ameristar for about $90/night. its about 10/15 min from the horseshoe
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:30 AM   #68
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Does anyone know how many entries the 7 game got last year and how much first was??...or have a reasonable guess at either for this year?
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http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tour...875284/results

112 entrants, 19k to first
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:46 AM   #70
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Will they be taking registration over the phone with a credit card again this year? Only way I can commit to flying out for the HU event.
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:53 PM   #71
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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If anyone is interested in staying right downtown Chicago within a 5 minute walk of the Horseshoe shuttle for a better rate than a hotel, PM me.
The only downtown shuttle I could find had 11:50 am as the first departure, which is obviously too late if you're playing events that start at noon. Is there one I missed?
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:56 PM   #72
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

There's lots of affordable hotels near 183rd and Harlem ave in Tinley Park, Illinois, just about 30 minutes from Horseshoe.

http://www.google.com/webhp?complete...iw=980&bih=542

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Old 01-29-2012, 02:04 PM   #73
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Completely disagree, any hotel in Indiana is skeezy. And if its half way decent, you realize you are in Indiana as soon as you step out the door. Oakbrook has a nice mall, some good restaurants and very nice affordable hotels.

Traffic for noon events wont be an issue. Give yourself 1.5 hours, take 88 to 290 to 90/94 towards Indiana and then Skyway. You will make it just fine, I live in a suburb west of Oakbrook and make it in less than one hour at that time.

Finally, ALWAYS preregister, so you never have to wait in line and even if you get stuck in traffic, you will be fine because of the good structure of these tourneys.

My two cents, if you want something a lot nice for the same price as a crappy indinana motel, do it.
Oak Brook is ridiculously far from Hammond. I live in Chicago's south suburbs and I still think Oak Brook is ridiculously far.

And I doubt any poker players are gonna be shopping at the mall during their stay, either. Chances are, they'll just be in and out.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:54 PM   #74
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Still not 100% sure if I'm going, but I booked a room in downtown Chicago from Mon 2/27 to Sat 3/02. If anyone is interested in chopping a room and a car, PM me. I was able to snatch up a room with 2 beds for $84/night + tax, so $488.90 for the duration.
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Old 01-29-2012, 07:09 PM   #75
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Will they be taking registration over the phone with a credit card again this year? Only way I can commit to flying out for the HU event.
They have the past two years so probably will again this year.
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