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Old 01-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #76
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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The only downtown shuttle I could find had 11:50 am as the first departure, which is obviously too late if you're playing events that start at noon. Is there one I missed?
I'm playing in event one and there is late reg up until the 9th level so this might be possible for that event. How long does it take the shuttle to get from the Hyatt Regency to the Horseshoe? I was thinking about staying at the Hyatt but parking and driving might not make it worth it to stay downtown. What can I say? I'm spoiled. I typically stay in the Hyatt when I'm in town. I'm starting to agree with the sentiment that all of the indiana hotels except Ameristar look subpar.

Staying downtown and using the shuttle route may not work out for someone in a tournament. What I'm most worried about is taking the shuttle to the casino... late regging and doing well in the tourney but missing the last shuttle trip back to the Hyatt at 11:35pm. It'd be nice to make it to day 2 of the tourney but I can only imagine what a cab ride back to the loop would cost if you missed the return shuttle. It looks like I could take the chinatown shuttle. http://www.horseshoehammond.com/casi...ew-detail.html

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Old 01-30-2012, 03:13 AM   #77
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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bah, its kind of a stale argument. If they offered really low starting chips and an add-on and double add on and charged rake on them than you would have a serious argument. As it stands now the structure is slow so that if you bust you got coolered or played poorly. and whoever is reentering 5 times is just a ton of money away to the prize pool and the house.

Although, I like rebuy tournaments the argument against them by people is that the people with big bankrolls can buy a huge stack. In a re-entry format this problem does not exist.

So i really don't think its all that wrong to just look at it like playing two or three tournaments.
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Completely right. Also important to note that in a re-entry each buy in counts as a separate entry, so more spots pay than in a rebuy.

Each time you enter or re-enter in these tournaments it is essentially a discrete decision. Say you initially enter at noon on day 1a when 800 player had registered, then you bust in 2 hours. Now there are 1000 entrants and you are 3 blind levels in. The decision of whether or not to re-enter at that point, is no different than if you had just arrived 2 hours late to the venue. The only exception is that if losing the initial 240 dipped your bankroll below the level that you would feel comfortable paying another 240.
Both great ways to look at it. I've been mulling it over in my head over the weekend, and I'm still not sure if I want to play it or not...The prize pool is going to be super inflated, and I like that. I guess it all depends on how much I can get saved up before the event as I'm only a recreational player as of now.

I think my biggest issue is the fact that it's unlimited re-entry. I'd prefer re-entry events to be 1 per day, like they did in Event 1 at the Circuit event back in October. I know I'm not the only person who feels this way, but this tournament is likely going to be the best prize pool outside the ME, and you can't argue taking a shot or two at it with the low buy-in.
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Old 01-30-2012, 08:47 AM   #78
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Can we please get back to hotel conversation. This thread needs more of it.
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #79
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

how long is late reg for the main?
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:09 PM   #80
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

The tournament shouldn't play THAT differently because of the re-entry. Sure some people will play looser, but I think that will be curbed by the fact that there will likely be alternates even before people start to re-enter. And then that line will stay fairly steady for quite some time while people bust out and get right back at the end of the line.

That's also why I wouldn't show up late to this one. Most of the people who bust out before you show up will re-register before you register the first time!
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Old 01-30-2012, 07:20 PM   #81
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

You can bust unlimited times in 1a/1b??? Not just once each day?
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #82
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Oak Brook is ridiculously far from Hammond. I live in Chicago's south suburbs and I still think Oak Brook is ridiculously far.

And I doubt any poker players are gonna be shopping at the mall during their stay, either. Chances are, they'll just be in and out.
Oak Brook isn't that far; I live just south of there; drive it every time. But don't go in on 290. Here's the real deal:

I-294 South, to I-55 North (Stevenson Expressway) to Dan Ryan South (90/94), then stay on 90 when it splits off on the Skyway into Indiana. First exit after the toll bridge, go a couple for miles to the Horseshoe. I've done it in 35-40 minutes, no problem, but not at rush hour. 10:30 am, easy. If you want to be a little closer to I-55, several motels on Rte 83 Kingery Highway in Willowbrook. Or just stay in Chicago, South Loop... Congress hotel, many more. Sac up, boys, sac up!
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #83
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You can bust unlimited times in 1a/1b??? Not just once each day?
http://www.horseshoehammond.com/imag..._Structure.pdf

Details are at the bottom. You can even play day B if you are still in day A, but you only keep the greater of the two stack if you are still around in B. No combining stacks (which is probably good?)
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:01 PM   #84
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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The tournament shouldn't play THAT differently because of the re-entry. Sure some people will play looser, but I think that will be curbed by the fact that there will likely be alternates even before people start to re-enter. And then that line will stay fairly steady for quite some time while people bust out and get right back at the end of the line.

That's also why I wouldn't show up late to this one. Most of the people who bust out before you show up will re-register before you register the first time!
I keep forgetting that the alternates for the WSOP-C event were being seated for 5 hours after the start of the event. I don't expect as large a turnout with no large guarantee and it only being the CPC. Although, based on last years numbers, 2000-2500 entries seems easily attainable. I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to surpass the 3001 entries from the Circuit event though. Damnit, I think I have to take an extra day off work now.

As far as hotels go...I have no clue. I'm booking in East Hazel Crest, IL. Not too far(30ish) minute drive. Enough to wake up in the morning, and unwind at night.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:59 PM   #85
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Good info MichaelStick,

How early do I need to arrive at the casino to ensure that I am not an alternate? Should I be okay if I pre-register around 10-11am the day of the event?

My buddy might be coming with and he's a huge tiltbox. You guys better hope he is at your table because he will bust and re-enter or chip up quickly. If he had to wait 5 hours before being seated... He might just ship every hand when he is finally seated!
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:53 PM   #86
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Good info MichaelStick,

How early do I need to arrive at the casino to ensure that I am not an alternate? Should I be okay if I pre-register around 10-11am the day of the event?

My buddy might be coming with and he's a huge tiltbox. You guys better hope he is at your table because he will bust and re-enter or chip up quickly. If he had to wait 5 hours before being seated... He might just ship every hand when he is finally seated!
I would try and get there by 10:30 at the latest to avoid standing in line for a long period.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:46 PM   #87
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

the only way to guarantee you wont be an alternate is to register the night before. last year i registered for event 1 at 9am the day of and there was no line and i wasn't an alternate. if you absolutely have to reg the day of i reccommend going really early, regging, and then going and getting breakfast/lunch or doing whatever until noon
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:12 PM   #88
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Oak Brook is ridiculously far from Hammond. I live in Chicago's south suburbs and I still think Oak Brook is ridiculously far.

And I doubt any poker players are gonna be shopping at the mall during their stay, either. Chances are, they'll just be in and out.
I used to live 10mins WEST of Oakbrook and still made it from boat to house in 45mins....non rushhour, but during day. Be careful though, cops like I-88, radar detector saved my ass many times.

Its a plus/minuses....you want safe, clean, cheaper but farther -Oakbrook or surrounding west suburbs
You want cheap and close but skeezy - Hammond, Merrillville
You want close, in city, and dont mind paying for it - Chicago.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:18 PM   #89
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

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Will they be taking registration over the phone with a credit card again this year? Only way I can commit to flying out for the HU event.
They have for last two years, this is the only event that is booked through the Venue and not through the casino, so you were able to use a CC. Just call up and ask, got the flier that says registration starts Feb 10th, so for sure you can try then.
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:39 PM   #90
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Good info MichaelStick,

How early do I need to arrive at the casino to ensure that I am not an alternate? Should I be okay if I pre-register around 10-11am the day of the event?

My buddy might be coming with and he's a huge tiltbox. You guys better hope he is at your table because he will bust and re-enter or chip up quickly. If he had to wait 5 hours before being seated... He might just ship every hand when he is finally seated!
As others have said 10-11am would be a good time. I got there just before 10a during the Circuit on day 1b and I don't remember my exact registration number, but it was pre-1000.

The line will get long after 10:30/11a, so if you can register the night before, or be there early, and don't mind waiting around for 2 hours, by all means, do it. They do a pretty good job with making the registration process as fast as possible, just make sure you have your players club card.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:28 AM   #91
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Re: Chicago Poker Classic 2012 - Horseshoe Hammond (Chicago) Feb. 23 - March 5

Time to warm up and win a seat to the heads up event. Also good cash game promotions going all month. I really hope the turn outs for the nightlys and other tournaments during the week pick up as it gets closer to the CPC...

Every Tuesday & Thursday at Noon
$100 Buy-In / 3,000 Starting Chips
$10 Bonus Buy* / 1,000 Extra Starting Chips / 20 Min. Blind Levels

Every Friday & Sunday at Noon/Every Monday & Thursday at 7pm
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DAILY TOURNAMENT PROMOTIONS
Jan. 28 - Feb. 21: Horseshoe weekly tournament winners will receive a $1,100 Heads Up seat.



CASH GAME PROMOTIONS
Feb. 1 - Feb. 15: Four times a day a randomly drawn cash game table will high card for a $1,100 Heads Up seat.

Feb. 16 - Feb. 22: Six times a day a randomly drawn cash game table will high card for a $3,125 CPC Championship seat.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:48 AM   #92
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I used to live 10mins WEST of Oakbrook and still made it from boat to house in 45mins....non rushhour, but during day. Be careful though, cops like I-88, radar detector saved my ass many times.

Its a plus/minuses....you want safe, clean, cheaper but farther -Oakbrook or surrounding west suburbs
You want cheap and close but skeezy - Hammond, Merrillville
You want close, in city, and dont mind paying for it - Chicago.
Trust me, anyone who travels here to play in the Chicago Poker Classic, and decides to stay in Oak Brook, is out of their mind. The location and distance is just not sensible and it just shows that they're too much of a wimp to stay anywhere that is not an upper-class atmosphere.

The hotels in Tinley Park, Illinois is in a safe area, and it's just as economical and much more sensible than freaking Oak Brook. Only the upper class elitist snobs go to Oak Brook in order to get away from the common everyday people.

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Old 02-02-2012, 11:24 AM   #93
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LOL. I was just presenting options. I've stayed in lots of crappy hotels traveling for tourneys and wish I had at least been presented some options. Like I said, it all depends on whats important to you...obviously falsely stereotyping someone based on a suggestion is high on your list and makes you feel better about yourself, so go for it bud. Do you.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:12 PM   #94
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LOL. I was just presenting options. I've stayed in lots of crappy hotels traveling for tourneys and wish I had at least been presented some options. Like I said, it all depends on whats important to you...obviously falsely stereotyping someone based on a suggestion is high on your list and makes you feel better about yourself, so go for it bud. Do you.
Yes. ;-) I just hate the north and west suburbs with a passion.
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:15 PM   #95
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CASH GAME PROMOTIONS
Feb. 1 - Feb. 15: Four times a day a randomly drawn cash game table will high card for a $1,100 Heads Up seat.

Feb. 16 - Feb. 22: Six times a day a randomly drawn cash game table will high card for a $3,125 CPC Championship seat.
The 4-times a day is 3am/9am/3pm/9pm right? What times are the 6-times a days? I feel like it was 3am/9am/6am/11am/3pm/9pm, but that just seemed really morning-heavy. Is there a 6pm or something?
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Old 02-02-2012, 06:18 PM   #96
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^ I think your 6x is dead on if memory serves me right
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:42 PM   #97
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If I arrive to day 1a 4 1/2 hours late... do you think it's still possible for me to have enough BB to make it worthwhile?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:21 PM   #98
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If I arrive to day 1a 4 1/2 hours late... do you think it's still possible for me to have enough BB to make it worthwhile?
If you get in as soon as you register, you'll likely have 16 BB, and enough chips for 7 orbits(Level 7 300/600 with 50 ante). For most people, I'd think this is enough to work with, but it really is player dependent.
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The 4-times a day is 3am/9am/3pm/9pm right? What times are the 6-times a days? I feel like it was 3am/9am/6am/11am/3pm/9pm, but that just seemed really morning-heavy. Is there a 6pm or something?
Those are 4x and 6x times I recall. The 6x times are morning heavy cause thats when its normally slowest and they want to pick up business. As I recall, your best bet for scoring a seat are Weekdays, in the morning, about 3-5 qualifiying tables for 6am and 9am. 11am gets busier because the noon tourney player will come in a little earlier for a chance to get the seat.
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