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02-20-2010 , 03:38 PM

#2226

cha59

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Originally Posted by LFO

grats! i like the eco-drives. any real pics?

Thanks!

Its feeling significantly more comfortable than my old watch so far. The case diameter is 39 mm and its 10 mm thick, which feels like the perfect size for me. It has a little heft to it, but isnt too heavy. 36 real diamonds in it.

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02-21-2010 , 10:04 AM

#2227

kingweed

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I'm considering buying that watch.

Think it looks pretty good.

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02-23-2010 , 12:54 PM

#2228

jws43yale

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Been thinking about getting an all-black watch with either a stainless or rubber band. I want an automatic movement and as much as I like the ~$1k Invicta Subaqua, I don't want to spend that much. The Invicta #7227 is ~$200 and I think looks pretty good.

If anyone has any other recommendations it would be appreciated.

Additionally, I am looking to buy a 2 watch winding box, if anyone has recommendations of a winder or a place to buy it would be great.

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02-23-2010 , 02:09 PM

#2229

damagecontrol

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Originally Posted by jws43yale

If you're looking around the ~200-300 price range, I highly recommend the Citizen Eco-Drive I just got that is all black/stainless band. It retails for 450, is 337 on Amazon, and I just picked it up for $200 on eBay.

Nothing too fancy but I really like it.

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02-23-2010 , 02:13 PM

#2230

jws43yale

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Originally Posted by damagecontrol

I think it is a good looking watch (better than the Invicta), but I am not a fan of quartz movements.

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02-23-2010 , 02:54 PM

#2231

PuppyFridayYall

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Anybody know what kind of what this is? On Anthony Bourdain's show, his watch. At 7:21 in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChtY0nC7awE

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02-23-2010 , 03:00 PM

#2232

PuppyFridayYall

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It's too big, I don't like it.

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02-23-2010 , 03:02 PM

#2233

pvn

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Originally Posted by jws43yale

I don't' usually tell people "don't buy XYZ" but don't buy an invicta. They make junk and they engage in some really shady practices in general..

In that price range you can find quite a few PVD automatic seikos.

This one is really nice for the money:

The frankentunas are very tough, real ISO-rated divers, and have a solid movement. Hard to beat IMO.

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02-23-2010 , 03:42 PM

#2234

jws43yale

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Originally Posted by pvn

The frankentunas are very tough, real ISO-rated divers, and have a solid movement. Hard to beat IMO.

Thanks, I really like that watch and am finding it for ~$340 shipped on Amazon. Having a little trouble finding any other place selling it.

I agree that Invictas are cheap, but as I am not yet ready to spend $1k+ on a watch I can't complain about my pro diver #8926 for ~$80. I think I may also be buying one of the Seagulls for a dress watch, either one of the manual chronographs (prob m193s) or the m308s automatic as I don't like most of the other autos.

m193s:

M308s:

Then I will just want to replace the Invicta with another stainless watch that is more in the $300-$500 range, probably with similar styling but a bigger face.

Any recommendations? Also, still looking for a rec for a winding case.

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02-23-2010 , 03:51 PM

#2235

Daddy Warbucks

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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall

Anybody know what kind of what this is? On Anthony Bourdain's show, his watch. At 7:21 in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChtY0nC7awE

Just looked like a rolex submariner?

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02-23-2010 , 04:15 PM

#2236

Torr

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Originally Posted by PuppyFridayYall

Anybody know what kind of what this is? On Anthony Bourdain's show, his watch. At 7:21 in the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChtY0nC7awE

Ernst Benz ChronoFlite World Timer

http://ablogtoread.com/ernst-benz/ch...d-timer-watch/

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02-23-2010 , 05:24 PM

#2237

PuppyFridayYall

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This is about a watch posted earlier. For people that know their stuff, does this watch sound like it's well made, judging solely on the description. It's a Universal Geneve:

The Tri-Compax has a 17-jewel signed manual wind calendar/chronograph movement (cal. 287), round snap back case (the watch comes in a variety of widths), a satin painted numeral dial, and four registers; constant seconds, 30-minute and 12-hour recorders, date, apertures for month, day, and phases of the moon, chronograph sweep seconds, dial calibrated for tachymetre

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02-23-2010 , 05:28 PM

#2238

dmkai3

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DW, I tried on your Longines at the mall yesterday! I like the size as it's definitely as big as I can go on my skinny wrists. Looking at the Master Collections online now I think the only other 44mm they make is this one but I'm undecided if it looks too busy:

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02-23-2010 , 05:36 PM

#2239

PuppyFridayYall

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What are your thoughts on this watch. Pretty sweet.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/view....JPG,LL387.JPG

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02-23-2010 , 05:37 PM

#2240

PuppyFridayYall

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Also, what do you think about wearing it casually? Like, with shorts...wearing it all the time.

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02-23-2010 , 07:23 PM

#2241

ICallHimGamblor

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Originally Posted by dmkai3

Two more days.... mine is being delivered in two more days...... (*drool*)

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02-23-2010 , 08:18 PM

#2242

dmkai3

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Originally Posted by ICallHimGamblor

Two more days.... mine is being delivered in two more days...... (*drool*)

Oh excellent. When you get it please post wrist shots and review your buying experience including where you got it from online.

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02-23-2010 , 09:57 PM

#2243

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just arrived:

It's an older piece, hard to find one in this condition. Fairly standard ETA 6497 movement. The bracelet is not as bad as I thought it would be (glycine was notorious for having "cheesy" bracelets in this time frame (early 2000s) but this one has very substantial links even though the end caps are folded. The clasp is a bit rough but I will probably replace it with a newer, more modern one. Or I'll just wear it on leather.

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02-23-2010 , 10:09 PM

#2244

dmkai3

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pvn, it seems like you are particularly fond of Glycine watches. Why is that? If it's their movement then please enlighten me.

Also, post more ITT.

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02-24-2010 , 03:11 AM

#2245

soulysoul

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just bought this beauty for round about 2000€. omega speedmaster prof. first watch on the moon

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02-24-2010 , 09:12 AM

#2246

pokerplease

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8957325

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Swatch move could force watchmakers to turn to Asia

* Reuters, Monday February 22 2010

* Swatch Group threatens to stop supplying Swiss watchmakers
* Temptation to source from Asia will grow
By Astrid Wendlandt and Katie Reid
PARIS/ZURICH, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Swatch Group's plan to stop supplying rivals with key components threatens the "Swiss made" seal on which the industry rests and could force watchmakers to source from Asia or simply go out of business.
Industry experts believe Switzerland's watch brands have become too dependent on Swatch Group and have not invested enough in engineering, preferring instead to splash out on fancy marketing campaigns featuring famous sports stars and actors.
"It is clear that a tightening of the supply market coupled with the need to redefine the business model could turn a few brands to quick and cheap sourcing alternatives in East Asia," said Pierre Landolt, Chairman of the Sandoz Family Foundation, which is behind high-end watchbrand Parmigiani Fleurier.
"Watchmaking is one of the few global markets where Switzerland enjoys a position of leader. And the label 'Swiss made' is an essential reason for this," he said.
Swatch Group said in December that it wanted to stop supplying the rest of the watch industry with important parts, broadening a move taken a few years ago to cut deliveries of watchmaking kits, also known as ebauches, from 2011 onwards.
Chief Executive Nick Hayek accuses some watchmakers, without naming them, of being hollow brands that invest little in the craft and spend millions on glamorous ad campaigns.
"We want to stop this supermarket attitude," Hayek told Reuters in a recent interview. "Some players have preferred to just invest in marketing and not in the most important thing, which is the content of the watch."
Some experts say the threat from Swatch group, which owns brands such as Omega, Breguet and Blancpain, is aimed in part at large rivals like Tag Heuer, one of the industry's biggest ad spenders whose campaigns have featured sports stars such Maria Sharapova and actors such as Leonardo DiCaprio.
Tag Heuer declined to comment on the matter.
NO LONGER SWISS MADE?
Tag Heuer recently had to admit that it had bought the intellectual property for its first in-house movement from Seiko Instruments Incorporated. But it stressed the movement had been re-enginered by its staff and produced in Switzerland.
Watch movements consist of a few key parts including the winding and setting mechanism and the mainspring.
To get the "Swiss made" label, the assembly work on the movement and on the watch itself has to be carried out in Switzerland, with at least 50 percent of the components of the movement made locally.
Analysts said such a move from Swatch Group would hit its profits and make life difficult for other watchmakers but thought it unlikely the group would go through with its threat.
"I don't really believe that he will go through with this. All companies that do not have their own movement production will have a problem as there are not a lot of players around who can supply watchmakers with movements," said Vontobel analyst Rene Weber.
"For example, Breitling, Tag Heuer and some of Richemont's brands still depend a lot on Swatch Group. If Hayek were really to go through with this, it would have a short-term negative impact on earnings," he said, adding that such a move would need a very long transition period.
Swatch Group's manufacturing unit ETA, formed from a number of independent factories set up at the end of 18th century, is the lifeblood of the whole Swiss watch-making industry. It makes movements fitted in about 80 percent of Swiss watch brands.
As the biggest supplier in Switzerland, ETA offers the best price-quality ratio. Other Swiss makers of movements exist, such as Sellita, Soprod, Technotime and Vaucher, in which Hermes has a a 25 percent stake.
But few, if any, can match the volumes and prices of ETA. And those watch brands that already make their own movements are unlikely to want to supply competitors.
"It would be like asking Ferrari to make engines for rival carmakers," said Christian Barbier, head of sales at Parmigiani Fleurier.
"We agree with (Nick) Hayek's strategy. This will shed light on those who have the know-how and those who do not," he said.
Brands that have developed their own movements include independents Patek Philippe, Rolex, Parmigiani, Audemars Piguet and Corum.
There are also Richemont brands Roger Dubuis, Jaeger-LeCoultre and Lange & Sohne and Vacheron Constantin and LVMH brands Zenith and now Hublot, which took on the machines and staff of the high-end movement maker BNB Concept.
INVESTING IN INDEPENDENCE
Philippe Pascal, head of LVMH watches and jewellery, directly addressed Hayek's threat earlier this month at the annual results conference when he said the priority was to increase the vertical integration of Tag Heuer and Hublot.
As a sign of the times, luxury brands will also unveil their first movements in Basel in March, including DeWitt, which sells about 1,500 watches a year starting at 13,000 euros.
"For some brands, the temptation to source oneself in Asia will be great," said Nathalie Veysset, chief executive of DeWitt. "If one gets into that, it puts into question the whole notion of 'Swiss-made' even if one can play on the added values of assembly and parts to get the label."
Some watchmakers said they could already get many dials, movements, hands and other parts from China that could be as much as five times cheaper than in Switzerland or in Japan from big manufacturers such as Seiko.
In China, one can already get replicas of ETA movements.
(Editing by Sitaraman Shankar)

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02-24-2010 , 09:25 AM

#2247

kak1154

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Nice Speedy Pro, soulysoul. What's the case size? Let's see a wrist shot!

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02-24-2010 , 10:44 AM

#2248

pvn

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Originally Posted by dmkai3

pvn, it seems like you are particularly fond of Glycine watches. Why is that? If it's their movement then please enlighten me.

Also, post more ITT.

They're very reasonable on the secondary market, relatively easy to flip when you get tired of them, and in general they are well made (though they skimped on bracelets and straps until recently IMO).

Glycine is a weird company, though. They have some really nice designs (I particularly like the airman though I haven't bought one yet) and they have some really crappy ones.

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02-24-2010 , 10:52 AM

#2249

Daddy Warbucks

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Originally Posted by dmkai3

Did you try any of the smaller ones, like the moon phase, which are like 41mm? Also, the other one is too busy for me, i prefer the minimal look of my model.

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02-24-2010 , 03:55 PM

#2250

dmkai3

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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks

Did you try any of the smaller ones, like the moon phase, which are like 41mm? Also, the other one is too busy for me, i prefer the minimal look of my model.

Yeah I tried on this one which I think is 40mm but I prefer the bigger ones.