This will sound really lame but the correct play will depend on what you think he will do with each part of his range in response to a bet or check from you. From here I have no idea if he will call the turn with just a 7, whether he will call a third barrel on this board with just a jack, etc.

I think I'd check-fold against a solid player, bet-fold against a calling station, and possibly check-call against an aggrotard. But a lot of players don't fit cleanly into a category and the EV of the lines kind of blurs together. Like a solid player shouldn't get to the river with a naked 7, but also shouldn't call a river bet with a naked jack... and the calling station may pay off a bet with a jack but he can also get to the river with a 7... so it's all pretty meh.

solid players aren't calling down with QJ on J72? wat?

Soah right as usual. This guy wasn't really an aggrotard. He just put high value on hitting any part of a board and it was working for him.

Earlier I saw him bet really big on the river when he had the nuts. So I checked here. He bet $30 and I snap-called.

He turned over J9.

betting and getting called by top pair would have been better still!

so what was J9's bet? A bluff surely

yeah we need to bet because he should be checking back J9 100% of the time...we got lucky he's a donk.

J72r is basically the driest board possible so it's not like he can even bluff a missed draw.

just booked wsop june 28-july 9, see yall there

You should have come hang with Willi and me in Estonia.

Is your father playing the ME?

no

solid players aren't calling down one pair in a six-way pot when every other board card paired and when the only semi-bluffing hands are a few gutshots which will often just give up at some point

People with bet sizing tells and who hate checking are the stone cold nuts. Just make a habit of checking to them at some point in a hand to find out where they are at and then take them to town.

soah's advice is normally fine but also "if i knew exactly how this person played i could tell you what to do"

also he's a bit of a nit

I've always found it funny that to be a respected player on the forum you basically have to play bad.

Most players don't bluff nearly as much as optimal so barring reads the best advice in most cases is to just fold to people repping something better than your hand and don't try to move them off of it... but to get the most respect you have to do (or at least advocate) exactly the opposite. Winning is boring.

Back in the day where you could just print money at full ring, my stats were like 16/13 while most other regs were around 12/10 or something.......

But most people looking for advice on the forums aren't trying to look for new weaknesses to exploit, they are posting hands that they misplayed and trying to figure out what went wrong, and a lot of times that is accomplished by folding somewhere. The real money in poker is made by understanding how hand ranges interact and knowing exactly what you can get away with and when to abandon ship in all of the routine little pots that you play over and over again... not by trying to figure out whether or not to hero call in a spot where you don't know your opponent well enough to know what's going on in the hand. But those are the hands that get posted.

fold all day erry day babyy

Have they announced what day the 2p2 party is?

no but it's always right before the main, right?

I'm still a noob for sure but at this point in my learning I really think folding has been exactly why I've been able to eke out small wins. The thing I see a lot of players do that I've been able to avoid is to get themselves into bad spots on the river where they've already invested a good part of their stack and they now have to make a tough river decision.

I am seeing the value in being more aggressive but I also see the value in just giving up.

watching ROUNDERS on my way to AC

5 handed 5/10/20. effective stacks 3000. villain is very nitty. i've been crazy aggro. im in the straddle with J5o. folds to button who limps. sb folds. bb limps. i check.

flop is Jh5h2c
i bet 60
button raises to 180
i reraise to 500
button jams
filthy????

if it matters about 15 minutes earlier i doubled him up when he flopped a flush and i checked raised him with nutflush/straight draw, and he 3bet shoved, and i called.

how much did he jam?

about 2800. he started with about 3k

thats gross. dont 3bet imo unless you can call the jam. calling the 180 > 500 otherwise

Is a very nitty person 4 bet jamming a FD or TP? He really can't have an overpair since he would raise QQ+ preflop. So what can he have other than sets?

Ok, maybe an overpair if he thought you would raise your straddle.

If he's shoving with the NFD and a gutshot I wouldn't describe him as very nitty.

im pretty sure he's NEVER playing a draw or top pair like this. i'm not sure i've ever seen him bluff raise.

ok so fold, duh