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05-07-2014 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
you think jcohen is a villager but you want to lynch CDL even tho for CDL to be a wolf, in your scenario, jcohen would have to be one too?

what on earth are you talking about?
How does CDL being mafia auto-implicate jcohen?
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05-07-2014 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight
btw, that post reminded me that mattchew is prob a villa
"prob" is a good adjective

I'd be a lot more comfortable with it if he'd post a lot more though
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05-07-2014 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WWWWombat
Also, the reason CDL wasn't killed if town is painfully obvious. Dude was almost CFD'd yesterday before Jcohen's claim. Why would you kill an abrasive guy like CDL over Cory who had almost 0% chance of being lynched.
I know this is rhetorical, but I want to answer it anyway. Cory seemed like a clone-eneger to me. Not special. Clearly the wolves didnt share that opinion.

Special meaning non-clone schwarz-stallone-aneger
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05-07-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Missing Person
How does CDL being mafia auto-implicate jcohen?
I thought that was your entire scenario about guild being a 'sacrifice'.
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05-07-2014 , 12:08 PM
I'm awake and have even read everything from today.. See my name everywhere which is exciting.. I'll start actually posting and responding to stuff in a bit.. Coffee and whatnot first
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05-07-2014 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
This post makes me want to see you die. I just want you to know that.
Noted!
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05-07-2014 , 12:09 PM
MP is making no sense atm. Some of you are WIFOMing yourselves way too much. Put the WIFOM in a box and vote your scumreads.
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05-07-2014 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Missing Person
I had explained this before, I thought it was to you, but guess not.

Yomi = Mind Games, it's a Japanese word that picked up common usage in fighting games.



Agree a lot on this.

Like I said, it's a mixup, for sure. We're now at a point where guessing the best option is ambiguous.

I also intend to look at cory's posts, and see if there isn't something else that may have gotten him killed. It would be inefficient for me to compare our lists so much as we diverged a lot on who we read as civs and mafia, but it's worth me to check that too.

At this point, if we start to look at it as a mixup attempt to try to clear his civ reads, I say we go after CDL. Even though I'd lynch DP in a heartbeat, CDL probably gives us the most info if he turns up mafia.

If we start to look at it as a legitimate attempt to kill cory before he confirms too many civs, or to make civs he was starting to shy away from look dirty, then I say we go after Rokk_Krinn first.
Lynching either of those players today would be godawful.
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05-07-2014 , 12:10 PM
well the good news is both people who died last night were vanilla, so all of our specials are intact. this means there is a strong chance ill be protected tonight by the doctor/bodyguard and will be able to get my peek off

rip cory, had a bad feeling you were gonna die. felt like we were on the same page a lot

for system, i believe i said yesterday i thought his reads were way off, but it was more suspicious to me when lawrence tried to push them forward. i need to find the quote of this but i thought i remember this happening, and thinking lawrence looked bad at the time. he also looks terrible for his comments about guild

i thought nickismynames post was good (next time format it better though). i think its true that the people who didn't mention guild at all are very suspicious

off the top of my head, my top candidates today would be:

-lawrence
-shills
-pres eden
-phelant

i didn't do any rereading last night though, mostly because I've already known guild was a wolf so i was looking forward to everyone else's analysis. to me, its a little fishy for anyone to not be factoring in guild being a wolf into their reads

i still have no idea what mp/synonym are up to. does anyone know if theres any specials we have that could resolve them one way or another? doubt the wolves are gonna do it for us

anyways, i think I'm gonna reread all of lawrence's posts and figure out if thats what i want to do.

dils - i would like your opinion on shills now with this updated information





the real game starts today. we can't get happy or complacent just because we got a wolf. you guys didn't know it, but we were lynching guild no matter what yesterday. today is the start of the game
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05-07-2014 , 12:11 PM
what does WIFOM mean?
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05-07-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by _J_
So I'm back and am pretty much caught up so I will be responding to people now.

I will say from pg 6->forward. Guild lost the argument with Moocher hard and his whiplash reaction to Moocher is terrible.

I also find myself reading Guild like a puppy. One that barks a lot but never truly bites. However, you say something he doesn't like he comes at your like a mad-dog. So I will be looking at Guild a bit more cautiously but I do detest the way he is choosing to enter/play the game at the current time.
I got to say I like J.

As I am going and bringing up interactions Shills does come off quite bad.

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Originally Posted by Shills
Did you read what CLD wrote? It's perfectly acceptable for someone to come out looking worse in any argument without being scum. Agree? When I pushed him, he clearly (?) outlined his reads.



You are annoying.



You're not going to catch me.
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05-07-2014 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm awake and have even read everything from today.. See my name everywhere which is exciting.. I'll start actually posting and responding to stuff in a bit.. Coffee and whatnot first
Lurking scum. I think you need to provide us with more than what you're giving
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05-07-2014 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
I thought that was your entire scenario about guild being a 'sacrifice'.
I threw that out to get the consensus of the possibility of that.

I have never played a game with a JOAT role, so despite my glance at the role seeing it as a strong role, I did want to gather opinions from people who have seen it in play.

Like I said, it's less likely myself, just based on my view of the role, limited to no experience with it.

I'm more concerned with the possibility of the mixup on cory's town list vs. cory's mafia list.

I'm really not sure how CDL mafia = jcohen mafia based on my fake claim possibility post. That seems to tie two different theories together into one cumulative theory that doesn't hold weight.

They're mutually exclusive. Especially when I myself discredited it as unlikely, and everyone else is too.
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05-07-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
well the good news is both people who died last night were vanilla, so all of our specials are intact. this means there is a strong chance ill be protected tonight by the doctor/bodyguard and will be able to get my peek off

rip cory, had a bad feeling you were gonna die. felt like we were on the same page a lot

for system, i believe i said yesterday i thought his reads were way off, but it was more suspicious to me when lawrence tried to push them forward. i need to find the quote of this but i thought i remember this happening, and thinking lawrence looked bad at the time. he also looks terrible for his comments about guild

i thought nickismynames post was good (next time format it better though). i think its true that the people who didn't mention guild at all are very suspicious

off the top of my head, my top candidates today would be:

-lawrence
-shills
-pres eden
-phelant

i didn't do any rereading last night though, mostly because I've already known guild was a wolf so i was looking forward to everyone else's analysis. to me, its a little fishy for anyone to not be factoring in guild being a wolf into their reads

i still have no idea what mp/synonym are up to. does anyone know if theres any specials we have that could resolve them one way or another? doubt the wolves are gonna do it for us

anyways, i think I'm gonna reread all of lawrence's posts and figure out if thats what i want to do.

dils - i would like your opinion on shills now with this updated information





the real game starts today. we can't get happy or complacent just because we got a wolf. you guys didn't know it, but we were lynching guild no matter what yesterday. today is the start of the game
I feel like your top four candidates are four villagers, just FYI, so you're going to have some convincing to do.

Re: MP/Synonym, the obvious thing would be to peek one of them If there's nothing mechanically tying them together that's less good though. It should be fairly obvious but if there is ONE wolf between them it's going to be MP basically all the time.

Like, maybe this is terrible, but if they are masons or lovers I don't think a hard claim is out of order given the game state right now because I'm about to start tinfoiling about it.
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05-07-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
what does WIFOM mean?
Wine in Front of Me.

It's taken from the scene in The Princess Bride where Vizzini has to figure out which of two glasses of wine is poisoned. Basically, it means recursive reverse psychology/second-guessing to the point of mind****.
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05-07-2014 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
what does WIFOM mean?

Did I say this or someone else? It means Wine In Front Of Me and it is from The Princess Bride..


Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0
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05-07-2014 , 12:16 PM
did shills even post yesterday?
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05-07-2014 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Missing Person
I threw that out to get the consensus of the possibility of that.

I have never played a game with a JOAT role, so despite my glance at the role seeing it as a strong role, I did want to gather opinions from people who have seen it in play.

Like I said, it's less likely myself, just based on my view of the role, limited to no experience with it.

I'm more concerned with the possibility of the mixup on cory's town list vs. cory's mafia list.

I'm really not sure how CDL mafia = jcohen mafia based on my fake claim possibility post. That seems to tie two different theories together into one cumulative theory that doesn't hold weight.

They're mutually exclusive. Especially when I myself discredited it as unlikely, and everyone else is too.
PUT THE YOMI AWAY IT'S BAD FOR YOU
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05-07-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
I feel like your top four candidates are four villagers, just FYI, so you're going to have some convincing to do.

Re: MP/Synonym, the obvious thing would be to peek one of them If there's nothing mechanically tying them together that's less good though. It should be fairly obvious but if there is ONE wolf between them it's going to be MP basically all the time.

Like, maybe this is terrible, but if they are masons or lovers I don't think a hard claim is out of order given the game state right now because I'm about to start tinfoiling about it.
really? you think all 4 of those are villagers? have you seen each of their posts about/interaction with guild?
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05-07-2014 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Missing Person
I threw that out to get the consensus of the possibility of that.

I have never played a game with a JOAT role, so despite my glance at the role seeing it as a strong role, I did want to gather opinions from people who have seen it in play.

Like I said, it's less likely myself, just based on my view of the role, limited to no experience with it.

I'm more concerned with the possibility of the mixup on cory's town list vs. cory's mafia list.

I'm really not sure how CDL mafia = jcohen mafia based on my fake claim possibility post. That seems to tie two different theories together into one cumulative theory that doesn't hold weight.

They're mutually exclusive. Especially when I myself discredited it as unlikely, and everyone else is too.
OK then.

What you're doing is what we call 'tinfoiling' it even has an icon:

I think this level of tinfoiling is generally villagery but I don't want to go any further down the rabbit hole with you atm.
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05-07-2014 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
did shills even post yesterday?
nope

I liked what I saw from him when he did

I'll probably start getting concerned if we don't see him by about this time tomorrow at the latest
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05-07-2014 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WWWWombat
PUT THE YOMI AWAY IT'S BAD FOR YOU
But reading the Yomi/Texture of the kills is how I've lynched out mafia before.

Let me do me.
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05-07-2014 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
nope

I liked what I saw from him when he did

I'll probably start getting concerned if we don't see him by about this time tomorrow at the latest
so did everyone

but thats before you knew he deflected off guild after moocher lynched him
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05-07-2014 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jcohen
really? you think all 4 of those are villagers? have you seen each of their posts about/interaction with guild?
yep; I've also seen their posts about everything else

it's entirely possible that one or more of them just has really good tone and is owning me but that's how I feel and I feel pretty strongly about all of them

obviously this is a controversial opinion and equally obviously I'm happy to reevaluate based on their future posting
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05-07-2014 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by The Moocher
OK then.

What you're doing is what we call 'tinfoiling' it even has an icon:

I think this level of tinfoiling is generally villagery but I don't want to go any further down the rabbit hole with you atm.
That's fine by me.

I'll have enough on my plate in the morning to look through.

As of now, I have to head to bed.
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