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05-06-2014 , 11:05 AM

#1501

Phelanpt

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Originally Posted by Missing Person

So you somehow manage to have a read on a lot of the game except me?

I find that really hard to believe.

Nearly everyone has chimed in on the players affiliated with their site, but you.

Are you trying to distance yourself from me for a particular reason? I've at least said what I've thought on you.

Either you're having a really off game, or really nervous, but even as mafia last game, you pissed confidence in the way you were running the thread.

I don't think you're mafia, but you're not giving me a lot to hang that hat on besides gut.

This is not what I was expecting. I felt like you promised a better read than this.

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05-06-2014 , 11:05 AM

#1502

Tattersail

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

Basically what I meant was it feels like there seem to be a couple groups of people forming where a lot of people are kind of clearing each other as consensus villagers while thinking another group of people generally wolfy, and that other group is also kind of clearing themselves. Usually that's a good thing insofar as we (at least I) am able to pin things down more rapidly. Not to say that wolves can't be lurking in the "right" group.

Having written all that, I still don't know if it makes sense! But it does to me.

Re: my tone -- what you're sensing is one or both of:

1) When I'm posting in the morning/early afternoon, like now, I'm either just waking up/getting ready for work, or I'm at work and my mind is distracted. Evenings, I'm at home and can devote more attention to thinking about the game.

2) I work better with more information, and obviously last night I had more info than this morning.

As for the "wishy-washy"... meh, I get that a lot. It usually means I don't feel like I have anything worth going HAM about. Trust me, when I do have something worth going HAM about, you'll know, but I'm not going to force it.

That's basically the opposite to me, when I am at work I have quite a lot of time to read over things and post more. When I get home I have less time (just bought a house and have a lot of work to do)

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05-06-2014 , 11:05 AM

#1503

CalledDownLight

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strong read by nick saying I disappeared.

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05-06-2014 , 11:05 AM

#1504

SystemOverload

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Also, the largest problem by far here is that nearly every one of us is used to being top dog, which makes some of the interaction annoying.

Eden, please don't dodge my question.

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05-06-2014 , 11:06 AM

#1505

DarthPunk

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I would like a vote count D:

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05-06-2014 , 11:07 AM

#1506

Phelanpt

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Originally Posted by jcohen

i mean he's literally voting for someone he thinks is town right now. but sure thats cool

I think you missed an eentsy teensy detail on his post.

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05-06-2014 , 11:07 AM

#1507

WWWWombat

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Originally Posted by DarthPunk

I was talking about you saying "Constantly" you quoted one part of one post.

Again, the narrative you are forming to defend yourself doesn't make sense. Because one part of a much larger post is not "constantly" and further it does not follow that one part of one post would lead a townie to genuinely feel the need to bitch about 'Constantly comparing win rates and post counts' and talk about nothing else after reading the thread.

It doesn't make sense. It is scummy, and the manner in which you reacted was also scummy.

Because you could find one part of one post does not dismiss my case. The fact that that is the only thing you can say to defend yourself and the manner in which you tried to discredit the read without fair or good reason incriminates you further IMO.

It makes perfect sense if you assume he was reading the confirmation thread. This point is bad. Why do you keep harping on it?

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Originally Posted by Guild

Syn: hmm, i'm not very down to lynch sjg, i read over his posts once during the big discussion a page back and i've talked about my feelings a few times on the whole thing, i think i'll go with him to spare you since I agree he's controversial enough to merit information sacrifice and hey, maybe people are seeing something I'm not here. Then again, aren't you equally controversial enough to merit a simillar sacrifice?

(yes i'm aware that's a vote for sjg)

Wtf is with you and random sheep votes?

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Originally Posted by jcohen

however!

can i ask why anyone ever ends a confrontational post with "i don't think you're mafia?"

if you don't think they are mafia, why are you so confrontational towards them? if you think you're v/v with someone, you should be having a much calmer, more reasonable discussion

It's called frustration.

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05-06-2014 , 11:08 AM

#1508

SystemOverload

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Also, Synonym isn't flipping town, because we're not going to lynch him today. Sorry to say.

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05-06-2014 , 11:08 AM

#1509

CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by Lawrencelot

Come on, CDL. There are like 1500 posts: who should be lynched and why? I don't want to lynch someone only because they have large multiquote posts.

@Mattchew: don't forget to answer to this, I'm interested:

Liking Systemoverload more and more btw

no, I never ****ing said people should be lynched for long multi-quotes. I just wish people would stop posting them bc they are a bitch to read and way way harder to process than a bunch of small posts. I also have said multiple times who I want to lynch. I don't go through posts and highlight 3 dozen sentences to "show" why someone is a wolf. You know why? Its because it NEVER EVER EVER DOES. Small little posts and lapses in judgment plus tonal reasons are how you catch wolves in WW.

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05-06-2014 , 11:09 AM

#1510

CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

should say that this only applies to early game (ie. until a few people on each team are dead). once a few villas and wolves die then you can piece together the logic, votes, and reads to make cases with fundamental foundations.

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05-06-2014 , 11:09 AM

#1511

The Moocher

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Originally Posted by Synonym

The problem is that I've had to spend every single moment I've been in the thread defending myself from this ridiculous bandwagon.

Seriously, now that the original interaction has been re-posted several times I hope the civilians who were blindly lynching me will ease off and let me do some work.

I only have a finite amount of time to commit here. If every 4th post is someone accusing me then I have to spend a lot of my time responding to them.

ftr i think your posting has been decent today

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05-06-2014 , 11:10 AM

#1512

SystemOverload

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Hrmph, I'm probably going to get off after Eden's answered me.

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05-06-2014 , 11:11 AM

#1513

Phelanpt

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Originally Posted by _J_

Back for some quick hits before bed. Someone asked me if all of CDL's posts were useless, the answer is no since his posts got the game going, however, he just doesn't say anything. I absolutely abhor fluff posters almost as much as I do people who are naturally angry/volatile in games.

I will be reading posts when I get to bed on my phone and may have questions, but for now I am okay with my vote on SJG but will move to Syn unless his big post I saw changes anything drastic. I'll also re-look at Guild because I need to truly get off my fence of whether he is dumb or scum. I am feeling the former at the moment.

It was me that asked. I don't think all of his posts are fluff, but I agree that he's not saying much about what he thinks.

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05-06-2014 , 11:11 AM

#1514

CalledDownLight

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seriously, I dont even get why people are trying to piece things together. You guys understand we know exactly 0 roles right? You should view everyone in a vacuum. It is impossible to tell motivations at this point with no reveals.

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05-06-2014 , 11:11 AM

#1515

Pres Eden

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Originally Posted by SystemOverload

Eden, do you think that he'd actually be brazen enough to post this about his scum partner?

Yes. I don't see why he would be any more or less likely to do either of those things. I don't know his style.

All I can do is give my analysis of his actions, and MP has been beyond unreasonable in his dealing with Darth ever since Darth asked him to explain his townread on Synonym. It looks like a textbook chainsaw to me.

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05-06-2014 , 11:11 AM

#1516

Lawrencelot

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Originally Posted by Nickismyname

Gut reads (meaning, without any targeted player reads and having only read the thread once)

(snip)

Sooo... gamerdude ?

Wait a minute... you read the entire thread and your conclusion is to vote someone by process of elimination? Do you not think there is anyone that really stands out as scum to you?

FoS (Finger of Suspicion): Nickismyname

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05-06-2014 , 11:12 AM

#1517

CalledDownLight

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I know I am "late" on this but I have missing person as a villa now.

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05-06-2014 , 11:12 AM

#1518

Tattersail

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So my reads so far to the bottom of page 4, 100 posts per page.

Possible Scum -

Jcohen, Cory, Dwetzel or Luckbox (post #350 "Dwetzel is a wolf" post #358 - "luckbox must be wolf or insane finder") It went on for a little bit.

Possible Town

Missing Person, SG11, Nick, and gamer dude

Most others not much say either way at present. Still catching up. Nothing makes me want to vote someone strongly yet.

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05-06-2014 , 11:12 AM

#1519

DarthPunk

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Originally Posted by WWWWombat

It makes perfect sense if you assume he was reading the confirmation thread. This point is bad. Why do you keep harping on it?

I would have stopped had he said that straight up. But he didn't he didn't even mention the confirmation thread until 24+ hours later when others had stated this exact excuse for him.

If that was the reason behind that post, I would have expected that to be stated, it wasn't, so that was not the reason. Instead he got ultra defensive and omgus voted.

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05-06-2014 , 11:13 AM

#1520

SystemOverload

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Darth, shotgun to your head, why's synonym scum? (I know you've said before but I want a short [hopefully] concise single post as to why he's scum.)

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05-06-2014 , 11:14 AM

#1521

Nickismyname

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Originally Posted by SystemOverload

Nickismyname, please reread gamer dude's entrance. I think it's good enough to merit leaving him alive for now.

(Ps, vote djarm67)

Ok, I went and did this, and its a fine post and all but doesnt blow my mind. I will go read Dj after this though cause as I said hes the most "controversial" figure.

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05-06-2014 , 11:15 AM

#1522

CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by DarthPunk

Eden is making really ****ing solid points. Please read his posts carefully.

CLD STILL hasn't provided a solid read with solid reasoning as far as I know.

All those talking about no Synonym counter wagon. CLEARLY a counter wagon formed on me.

So don't use that as an excuse to opt out of the lynch plz.

hey **********, here is the deal. you telling me to do something isnt going to make me create a fake read to appease you. I will not lie about my reads or reasoning just to suck your dick. If you want me to fake some reads then you must be a wolf. I am playing exactly how I always do and it has had success in the past so I'm not changing anything.

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05-06-2014 , 11:16 AM

#1523

Nickismyname

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

strong read by nick saying I disappeared.

Is this legit or sarcastic? I can see it either way.

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05-06-2014 , 11:16 AM

#1524

CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by The Moocher

ftr i think your posting has been decent today

same

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05-06-2014 , 11:16 AM

#1525

Phelanpt

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

so if it makes cory feel better I guess I'll clear him

and sponge him a little in calling lancelot a wolf and some other people villagers

Which ones?

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