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'07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters '07-'09 REUNION - REDUX: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead: Battle of the Minor Characters

06-24-2020 , 04:33 PM
Totally nailed that contest imo.
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06-24-2020 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Kukra, I find you losing interest in me suspicious, to be honest. I have only started doing work and that should not be enough for you to lose your suspicion of me, if it was real to begin with.
tbh a large part of my wolf lean on you was that I remembered you as the wolf who didnt want to wolf in the first rand and that was inconsistent with your post here, but now I'm pretty sure I had you confused with someone else.

I'm glad you're posting though.
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06-24-2020 , 04:37 PM
Short line is never getting lynched here
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06-24-2020 , 04:38 PM
I have a null read on kruze
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06-24-2020 , 04:44 PM
shortline highlight read:

1.
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Originally Posted by crackedquads
Birdman wanting to flesh out SK mechanics when he was just SK makes sense. Probably only makes him way less likely to be SK again (as another SK rand might shy away from the topic)
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Originally Posted by shortline99
yeah, i could see crackedquads

villagers like to talk about wolves
wolves like to talk about neutrals
This is almost completely baseless. Birdman was suspected for wasting time on SK mechanics on d0. CQ defended him by saying it makes sense he would be thinking about SK mechanics, and shorty is like "oh you must be a wolf for talking about neutrals" Granted throwing around early d0 votes is kind of whatever, but this is notable in that he currently supports the CQ wagon.

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Originally Posted by shortline99
disagree; i feel his pain. that's a villa post.
This is responding to YouKnowWho's post about being sad that is he is no longer a wolf. Opinions were divided on if this were wolfy or not, but worth noting that YouKnowWho himself said he thought it was wolfy objectively, so Shorty's strong read here is at odds with the author.

3.
Aao to Luckbox:
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Originally Posted by aao
Feels like now that more people have posted, there's probably better votes out there for day1, but the thought of a thunderdome vs you is pretty cool at least.

Especially since I'm not losing.
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Originally Posted by shortline99
aao
this is kind of whatever. I haven't liked aao's posts today, but didn't feel any type of way about this one. shorty's vote was the very next post fwiw.

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Originally Posted by shortline99
aao and crackedquads would be delightful d1 wagons imo

2 mins til fake night
I didn't see anything else about CQ beyond (1) above. May have missed other discussion, but nothing in shorty's history.

* start of today *

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Originally Posted by shortline99
I have a short and somewhat obvious list:

Villagers:

WDCBooks
Felix the Cat
Dustbox

Possible Wolves:
aao
crackedquads
maybe aaron again?
He got some grief for using "obvious", later clarifying he was referring to other people clearing them? Not sure luckbox got super cleared, Felix people liked his entrance but he didn't post much, and WDC had some history/tone clearing going on (in my mind he is least clear of the list but no one really is).
Then repeats CQ again, maybe just based off the comment from (1)?

6. Defense to heat from above post:
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Originally Posted by shortline99
anyone complaining about the time i'm putting into this game should know that i actually run a company now. i feel traz's pain when he says anyone trying to get a read on him for lower participation in early stages can f*ck off (vowel excluded in honor of dustin)

my villager reads are "obvious" because other people have called them villagers too; my wolf reads are also obvious because they're the only reads and votes i've given in this game

i'm not putting in a lot of time on d1 because a) i don't have it, b) we have zero information, c) i don't usually consider myself a threat to be lynched

but if you feel like completely wasting your time, feel free to vote me
The time stuff is reasonable, but I'll point out that he didn't actually call the wolves "obvious" in the first post, only the villagers. In his defense, he defends calling them obvious as "the only reads and votes I've given." I think this is exceptionally suspicious, in both that he didn't notice that he didn't say that, but also that "my d0 votes and light reads are obvious to me on d1" in general.

7. He votes for crackedquads, no more reasons besides (hasn't voted yet)

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Originally Posted by shortline99
I've played with WDCbooks and Dustin plenty, and with Dustin very recently as a wolf; I don't feel compelled to justify those reads much. I find their playstyles to be very distinct villa vs wolf.

Felix I _could_ give more justification. I recall him posting this way as villa back in the day. But I'm not composing a big long list of justifications on a two day d1. You're nitpicking on the word "obvious" when it's obvious to me why I'd make those reads, and maybe not to you.
Explains more of his villa reads from (5). This looks all fine, but note that in (6), he says he called them obvious because "other people have called them villagers too," whereas here it is because he has played with them plenty. These seem like 2 different explanations for using the word "obvious"

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Originally Posted by shortline99
JDalla / aao / crackedquads wagons are actually a great outcome for d1, if we all coalesce there
first time he mentions me afaict.

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Originally Posted by shortline99
what's lazy? they are the other two non-me options currently with votes, and I'm saying I'm quite happy with those current wagons (especially if mine is removed as an option)
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Originally Posted by shortline99
well, two of them are the only two people i've called wolves and voted for previously, and the other is being voted by traz and one of my villager reads, so calling it "convenient" vs "a very logical conclusion for me to reach" is extremely manipulative
It seems like "I don't want it to be me" is the bull case for shortline being a villager. He is not given much in the way of a compelling case for it to actually be me, crackedquads, or even aao (who I think had some bad posts today, but those weren't pointed out by shorty.)


Tbh I'm pretty happy voting shortline here independently of "I don't want it to be me"
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06-24-2020 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
what is the policy lynch list?
the concept that if someone is good as a villager, wolves will generally eat them fairly quickly in the absence of some good read they have on the seer or other power roles, i'm sure shorty fell into that category. this is a bit more towards mash on the mishmash:vanilla scale than we usually played back in the day but certainly on day 1 it shouldn't change much. point is a shorty lynch on day 1 should be discouraged and can be resolved later if it doesn't resolve itself
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06-24-2020 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
tbh a large part of my wolf lean on you was that I remembered you as the wolf who didnt want to wolf in the first rand and that was inconsistent with your post here, but now I'm pretty sure I had you confused with someone else.

I'm glad you're posting though.
Oh no, I wanted to wolf - I just have a tendency to do semi-stupid FPS stuff as a wolf and I tend to overvalue busing I guess - that's why in that wolf chat I said that if yall wanna bus me to clear yourselves, I am completely fine with that.

What is kinda weird is that you posted more villagery in that first rand than you are here, IMO. You were a wolf then, which makes me lean villa on you here, but if that is the case, I have to make a conclusion that you are a better wolf than you are a villager - don't take it as a slight, though, as the way you were posting as a wolf in that first thread was just great and really put the par high.
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06-24-2020 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shortline99
i am genuinely happy w the options already for a d1.
Dobby has heard of your greatness, sir, but of your goodness, Dobby sees nothing
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06-24-2020 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
the concept that if someone is good as a villager, wolves will generally eat them fairly quickly in the absence of some good read they have on the seer or other power roles, i'm sure shorty fell into that category. this is a bit more towards mash on the mishmash:vanilla scale than we usually played back in the day but certainly on day 1 it shouldn't change much. point is a shorty lynch on day 1 should be discouraged and can be resolved later if it doesn't resolve itself
I thought that's what you meant. the logic makes sense broadly, but in this case I just think a great villager never plays the game Shorty has so far, with inconsistent explanations for his own posts (see my multiquote above) and satisfaction in fairly random wagons.
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06-24-2020 , 04:52 PM
This minigame stuff is ****ing with my brain. Should I just ignore everything that is written not in black?
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06-24-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
Tbh I'm pretty happy voting shortline here independently of "I don't want it to be me"
And if Dobby does it wrong, Dobby will throw himself to the mercy of the Village! Dobby has no master, Dobby is a free villager, and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and all his villager friends!
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06-24-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
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What is kinda weird is that you posted more villagery in that first rand than you are here, IMO. You were a wolf then, which makes me lean villa on you here, but if that is the case, I have to make a conclusion that you are a better wolf than you are a villager - don't take it as a slight, though, as the way you were posting as a wolf in that first thread was just great and really put the par high.
As a wolf I make a deliberate effort to sound villagery. It often works but it's exhausting. As a villager I dont care since I seem to always clear myself somehow, so I end up making more bad posts I guess.
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06-24-2020 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
This minigame stuff is ****ing with my brain. Should I just ignore everything that is written not in black?
But Dobby is very sorry You is confused. Orange is Dobby's favorite, favorite color sir! Do not send Dobby back to the Malfoys, Dobby has come to protect the village!
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06-24-2020 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
I thought that's what you meant. the logic makes sense broadly, but in this case I just think a great villager never plays the game Shorty has so far, with inconsistent explanations for his own posts (see my multiquote above) and satisfaction in fairly random wagons.
You didn't play with him in the first 05-06 game. He was a Villager JOAT and just pushed Luck, a villager, all day 1. More active but with 100% tunnel vision. So his not explaining his reasons is null.
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06-24-2020 , 05:02 PM
Not much is happening and I need sleep.

Since I'm pretty sure my vote will be wasted I might as well make it spicy:
atakdog

I invite everyone to read his total of 7 posts, from "I'm making reads" to "we should vote people who are not contributing". Also featuring "I'm not sure about aao" and "I wouldnt mind voting aao (please disregard that it contradicts what I said about non-contributors)".
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06-24-2020 , 05:08 PM
If I'm around for EOD, I'm might have more posts in this game on day 1 than I had last game.
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06-24-2020 , 05:09 PM
In total last game, I mean.
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06-24-2020 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wdcbooks
I am willing to get on board with this. Kruze
I have a theory about Kruze. I would give him a 1 day pass.
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06-24-2020 , 05:11 PM
Alright, finally finished with the thread aao whoever that is, has elicted the most wolf tells
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06-24-2020 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
If I'm around for EOD, I'm might have more posts in this game on day 1 than I had last game.
Hm...
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06-24-2020 , 05:12 PM
I think everyone should enter the contest even with garbage entries. More contestants means more prizes. There are way more villagers than wolves so most prizes should go to villagers.

Good night all!
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06-24-2020 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Hm...
Yeah you caught me. the post originally was going to say:

If I'm around for EOD, I'm down with a CFD on YouKnowWho.
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06-24-2020 , 05:14 PM
bobo could be a good vote

good night for real this time
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06-24-2020 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronk56
I have a theory about Kruze. I would give him a 1 day pass.
Please do share.
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06-24-2020 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kukraprout
bobo could be a good vote

good night for real this time
Bobo would be a terrible vote
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