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04-20-2019 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I know nothing of this but will say one thing. Calling someone "ugly" in public or on a public forum is the same as making fun of a disability (which includes ascribing to a non disabled person some disability even in jest. That goes for the using the term "aspie" as well.) It doesn't matter how bad the person in question is because there is a chance that someone who is suffering from that disability is hearing or reading it and being reminded of something they try not to think about.

People who write stuff like that don't deserve to live, let alone post.
Hm yeah, calling someone ugly means you should die. Solid logic.

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04-20-2019 , 05:08 AM
Yea, I'll be significantly decreasing my traffic on here as well. So many very smart posters in the politics forum, what a waste. If Mat loathes the politics so much, why wouldn't he just stay away from it, rather than nuke one of 2p2's most popular forums? Seems like such a rash and childish decision.
04-20-2019 , 05:13 AM
it may in fact be time for the red names in here to

04-20-2019 , 05:19 AM
I don't wish death on SHS, even as ugly as she is. However, she did knowingly lie to the US public to help cover up the obstruction of justice of a criminal meglomaniac narcissist by falsely stating the rank and file of the FBI supported firing its director, and the special counsel strongly suggests the firing should be the subject of impeachment and/or criminal charges after Trump leaves office.

I know some people don't mind criminal conspiracies that undermine and weaken the US government and the rule of law informed by truth, but I personally feel she should do at least 15 years in prison.

Does that make me similar to a POTUS who said 5 innocent black teenagers should be executed for the rape of a woman and who did not change his position after they were exonerated?

I mean they were innocent, but we're talking Black Teenagers here, not a godly southern woman who gaslights the nation.

I know truth hurts when you're poorly informed, so best to shut it down.


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1119197778482057216?s=19

Last edited by simplicitus; 04-20-2019 at 05:28 AM.
04-20-2019 , 05:26 AM
Disappointing.

I'm pretty sure I skew pretty far to the right of the majority of the politics posters, but overall (with a couple of exceptions I put on ignore) I felt I was treated pretty well. I also felt I learned a fair amount about a lot of things, and had some discussions that made me think about some stuff I otherwise might have passed on. '

I fully understand that the owners can shut down any or all of the forums if they desire - they're not a public utility. But I'm sorry if that's their decision. If it comes back in any sort of useful form, if someone would drop me a PM I'd appreciate it.

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04-20-2019 , 05:31 AM
I'm just going to say this about Miss OOT 2018. You blokes were warned early on in that competition several times to not politard it up yet that is what you exactly did. What you did not realise and should have and it was really up to Wookie to better marshall his troops was that what you were doing was a massive disservice to your home which is the politics forum by acting in such a way that it drew light, indeed negative light, to your forum. And from there well we all know what happened when Mason intervened, didn't we (which again should have been a further warning that this could eventuate and that forum needed a complete overhaul including by dismissing the 2 mods in charge that led to the forum being placed on tender hooks).
04-20-2019 , 05:32 AM
It's amazing the hill one can die on when one is really looking for a hill to die on.
04-20-2019 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Does that make me similar to a POTUS who said 5 innocent black teenagers should be executed for the rape of a woman and who did not change his position after they were exonerated?

I mean they were innocent, but we're talking Black Teenagers here, not a godly southern woman who gaslights the nation.
Trump has more similar stuff.


‘Horseface,’ ‘Lowlife,’ ‘Fat, Ugly’: How the President Demeans Women


He said a women who accused him of sexual assault was to ugly for that...

If Sara was on the other side there would not have been a peep.
04-20-2019 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
I'm just going to say this about Miss OOT 2018. You blokes were warned early on in that competition several times to not politard it up yet that is what you exactly did. What you did not realise and should have and it was really up to Wookie to better marshall his troops was that what you were doing was a massive disservice to your home which is the politics forum by acting in such a way that it drew light, indeed negative light, to your forum. And from there well we all know what happened when Mason intervened, didn't we...
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
It's amazing the hill one can die on when one is really looking for a hill to die on.
sim,

04-20-2019 , 05:41 AM
miss oot was interesting for the first time in about 5 years thanks to the aoc shenanigans
04-20-2019 , 05:43 AM
I'm also going to say this at the time that Mason gave you that warning was that it was the opportunity to not only get completely new blood as moderators but it was also a time, given the underlying reason for it which was about the need for more balanced debate rather than the echo chamber that it has become, was for each and every exiled member to have their exile reviewed or overturned if it was clear that what those members were doing was trying to provide that opposing view to the majority and bring that balanced debate to the forum. That would have been a good way of showing Mason that you were serious about keeping a politics only discussion forum on this site rather than the window dressing you did.
04-20-2019 , 05:43 AM
I wasn't referring to the oot thing, but as a former oot poster, the AOC thing was funny. She's pretty hot, and only added some class to the place.
04-20-2019 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
miss oot was interesting for the first time in about 5 years thanks to the aoc shenanigans
And proves that making fun of women's looks is not the issue here.
04-20-2019 , 05:46 AM

https://twitter.com/JohnFugelsang/st...624428551?s=19

Bundy5, why do I have the sense that balanced, informed debate isn't really your kind of thing?
04-20-2019 , 05:46 AM
bundy should be banned and whoever modded 270ffsuit is pretty silly. That is one of the sorriest mods on this site. Dude complains about getting brigaded by politards but he goes into politics to talk **** to rep (whether not rep deserves it or not doesn't matter).
04-20-2019 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
Hm yeah, calling someone ugly means you should die. Solid logic.

not if I knew they wouldn't do it again
04-20-2019 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I wasn't referring to the oot thing, but as a former oot poster, the AOC thing was funny. She's pretty hot, and only added some class to the place.
I also like AOC and thought it was funny as well.


And then politics dip****s went too far. Like they always do.

My favorite part though was banning pvn from my phone one night for being a dip****, which hands out a perma no matter what, and then getting home to see poor pvn b-b-b-butting to his politics mod buddies and them in turn asking me if a perma wasn't a bit much. Good times!
04-20-2019 , 05:49 AM
Shouldn't the only reason to ever close a forum be that it was not being used enough?
04-20-2019 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
Hm yeah, calling someone ugly means you should die. Solid logic.

not if I knew they wouldn't do it again
also when I write something I usually have more than one reason.
04-20-2019 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
bundy should be banned and whoever modded 270ffsuit is pretty silly. That is one of the sorriest mods on this site. Dude complains about getting brigaded by politards but he goes into politics to talk **** to rep (whether not rep deserves it or not doesn't matter).
This is probably a good time to just reflect on what I've been saying and where we are now and whether it is best just to say nothing or perhaps even say hey bundy I'm sorry and realise you did have a point after all. Your best chance now is Well named and I hope he takes on modding of some form of a politics forum even if it is not how it used to be and they are only for threads that he starts. He can then give you a watching brief for a little while if you blokes actually act civil, especially to those that don't agree with you, then you may be given a bit more rope. But I can't see that in the short term.
04-20-2019 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Shouldn't the only reason to ever close a forum be that it was not being used enough?
January 1972: we're going to need to shut down the Watergate subforum for being disrespectful to the president.
04-20-2019 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Shouldn't the only reason to ever close a forum be that it was not being used enough?
Moderating is key though
04-20-2019 , 05:57 AM
so this site is now basically run by neo nazis and friends?
04-20-2019 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tsl82
so this site is now basically run by neo nazis and friends?
Thinking this is half your problem.
04-20-2019 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Moderating is key though
The most faulty moderating that has gone on is allowing you and others to cry for years in ATF because you're a bunch of bad posters and trolls.
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