I mean imagine dying on the hill that you nuked a forum because someone called SHS ugly. On 2+2 of all places. It is so absurd it is hard to know where to start.

AOC looks are mentioned all the time and she had a bunch of posts in OOT taking shots at her ugliness. You had a form run by a mod who had it as its main feature. But she is liberal so its ok i guess.

Unreal reading how this all went down.

The point has been often. Most people get it.

I don't think many have extended it to 'ugly' as they should. I think you should also consider extending it to 'uneducated. Loads of people were denied a decent education as children and know it. Correctable in theory as an adult but very hard for many in practice.

Hard to see what this has to do with P being closed.

There was a guy in OOT 1-2 years ago openly discussing his various rapes in the Online Dating thread. No one batted an eye.

Like Mat said this isn't about civility. Our type isn't welcome here (as he said) and we need to accept that this forum values what it values. Which seems to mostly be some combination of racism, misogyny and bad poker advice.

I barely know the details of what you are talking about. But again its off the point.

The seriousness of the crime is related SOLELY to the effect it has on OTHER people. Since very few woman are worried that they have a horseface, whatever that means it is not as serious a crime using that term as you have "downs syndrome" as an otherwise very smart poster once did.

Obviously uneducated is only acceptable to use as an insult for those who had a choice.

Also why are people assuming I want the Politics Forum shut down? At least not until I can gloat after Michelle is nominated.

You said calling anyone ugly was as serious as making fun of their disabilities so I linked a thread where that happens a lot in a contest. Thought you would preview it before commenting. Guess not. You finished the post wishing death on vaya for calling Sara ugly.

We are still talking past each other. I'm not saying that the politics forum should be closed. And I am saying the people you are referring to in that other thread should die.

If that happens you will need to shut down a bunch of forms here since there will be a lot shots at her by people calling her a man and ape.

So with regards to being called ugly or horse face we need to soul read their self confidence levels. Gotcha.


I just don’t think calling someone ugly is the same as making fun of their disabilities though I would never do it. I would hope they change or learn rather than wishing they die though.

stop panicking people. the wheels are turning.

the forum will be back.

Doesn't help the innocent bystander much.

Because that's what they do. I won something apparently.

Why is this happening? For the fourth time I will say that my problem is unrelated to the person being insulted.

Imagine if you just ignored racist and hate mongering bitches instead of just using them as an avenue to troll people and try to garner attention for yourself.

This is one hundred percent on you and it is laughable. I have said it before and will bring it up again but I once thought you were put in an impossible position but your actions and comments disproved that long ago. Even if Mason was Steve Brannon. You guys made up special snowflake rules for posters who were banned for being awful and would not have been allowed to remain on the site unimpeded in any other forum.

Only took ten attempts to try and launch a politics discussion that fell under the desires of site owner and management and yet it failed every time as even you guys knew the racism and hatred was untenable for the site.

Again literally all that needed to happen was little bitches who were banned for cause should have been ignored in the same manner they are handled by the rest of the site.

It doesn’t really matter anyways because obviously neither poker or Internet forums are ever reaching previous heights. amazingly the Trump poker boom never materialized.

I will ask again, why were not banned posters just ignored for cause? Knowing some of the dumb **** I saw people get banned for over the last 11 plus years and seeing the stuff people were completely protected by site management in the last few years was and is gross. This is not even about differences of opinions. It is straight up about protecting ideological hatred, racism, sexism and bigotry.

Me: you will have to add to your list of death wishes after reading this thread

lol wow. It is pretty amazing how much insulting posting goes on in the other forums that the admins don't care at all about, but when something mean gets posted in politics...
The hypocrisy is just through the roof.

Funny thing is my previous post was before knowing this. This just makes mat magnitudes worse, lol.

Since there is no political forum I assume the rules of political thread moderation will hold where moderators can’t actually ban posters for political posts without management approval.

Given the politics forum has been threatened to be completely shuttered multiple times in the last six months, not sure how anyone thinks it’s a joke or patience is required.

If this didn’t happen after being directly threatened by mason and mat it might make sense to take it with a grain of salt, but that is not the reality.

I wonder how many people on the left think that those who oppose them do so because of racism, sexism or hatred. TBH, probably not that many in real life but in the politics forum, many; tons of leftist bigots there imo.

Guess I'm assuming that if you are reading this website you are in a position to get yourself educated using that same computer.

Won't shut anything down. If people make such posts I will have them deleted.

Closing Politics is absurd. It's one of your better forums, one where there is someone genuinely quality posting, and it's virtue was that it was not some homogeneous groupthink.

Then you have embarassament to humanity forums like Travel, BBVL, Beats Brags and Variance, OOT, where you run beauty pageants about instagram models, have threads about finding hookers in Phuket, and other threads about degenerate gambling (all fine with me, by the way, because I support degenerate behavior - I just though that this site was mainly dedicated to promoting degenerate behavior, but had some intelligent forums mixed in for comic relief).

Great idea, close one of your few remaining interesting forums but keep open the BBVL forum so people can keep posting about their ****s.

Not sure how someone calling Sanders or Huckabee ugly, or whatever the hell got the forum closed, is at all comparable.

In any case, Sanders or Huckabee might in fact be ugly, and that might in fact be relevant in a political context.

The only problem with the politics forum was that one or two moderators (I'll name names if you want) didn't know how to moderate, prefering to intervene in arguments, taking sides in predictable ways, like censors.

No you mean I won

prana,

For the record Ms. OOT had been run for years by some guy, but this year he didn't want to do it so some dip**** politics guy MAGNANIMOUSLY offered to do it.

And then he put AOC in when he was told over and over not to.

And then he rigged the entire thing for AOC to win by disqualifying votes based on ****all.

And then more politics dip****s thought it would be great to brigade the crap out of OOT, and in turn ruin the already-dying Ms. OOT.

So while I personally couldn't care less as all I basically did in these contests was vote, never let it be lost in the fog of war that politics dip****s are the people you are complaining about. Why? Because they simply can't not talk about politics in other forums. FACT.

Too bad. This would be the end of me visiting 2p2. Nothing else worth reading here. Politics forum is one of the best news resources online, anywhere.