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03-24-2010 , 07:09 PM
OJ denied killing Nicole
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03-24-2010 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fallaway
How many hands did he have the opportunity to three bet a single better with offsuit junk? It clearly wasn't 30K opportunities.
I'd estimate 1600-1800 hands. I had the opportunity 6037 times in a 107k hand sample. Over last 30k hands 1864.

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Last edited by squashington; 03-24-2010 at 07:16 PM. Reason: added last 30k sample
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03-24-2010 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by squashington
I'd estimate 1600-1800 hands. I had the opportunity 6037 times in a 107k hand sample.

(A9o-A2o,K9o-K2o,Q9o-Q2o,J9o-J2o,T2o+,92o+,82o+,73o+,62o+,52o+,42o+,32o)

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Thanks.

That's a lot more than I would have expected. Can someone with the hands run that?

Are you playing similar stakes as this propbet?
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03-24-2010 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Slap My Jack
Anyone want to give me $ action that undeniable evidence is found to show that OP cheated?

I'll even lay you odds.
what is considered undeniable evidence? Only way to prove it w/out a shadow of doubt imo is if someone admits it.
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03-24-2010 , 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fallaway
Thanks.

That's a lot more than I would have expected. Can someone with the hands run that?

Are you playing similar stakes as this propbet?
For the 30k hands, 87% was 1/2 and the rest higher.
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03-24-2010 , 07:29 PM
Drama bomb time.

(forgive me, but I'm going to have some fun with this post too...)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
Also I am not a multi-accounter, I am not Nostalgica on PokerStars.
Really, are you sure? You don't trust me, but I definitely don't trust you.

So, since I'm eager to learn how to crush the games, I was watching some videos by a coach on Pokertrikz.com. I pull up a video that was posted 3/12/2010 that will teach me how to crush 180man $2.20 sngs. The video is awesome, cuz the pro takes 2nd place in a 180man!

So since we've already clearly established in this thread that Nostalgica on pokertrikz = Nostalgica on 2p2 = RoSeeker on 2p2 = RoSeeker on PokerStars....

Surely RoSeeker's account will show a 2nd place finish in a 180man $2.20 sometime after he became a Pokertrikz Pro on 1/21/2010....umm, nope.

But, hmm, this is interesting, the Nostalgica account on OPR has a couple 2nd place finishes in 180man $2.20's on March 5th, 2010....

Well, **** that could just be some crazy coincidence right, bbv readers?


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
I've done loads for the community, I don't deserve this bs.
You deserve everything you get, liar/cheater/scumbag.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RoSeeker
I've nothing to gain from you guys trying to ruin my reputation. Suggesting that I multi-account on stars
[snip]
I think your reputation is hereby ruined, sir.


Edit: Thanks to waow for helping me get screenshots, cuz for some reason I was having issues with the flash video on that site.
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03-24-2010 , 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slap My Jack
Anyone want to give me $ action that undeniable evidence is found to show that OP cheated?

I'll even lay you odds.
Sorry for ruining your action probably.



Also, the fact that Nostalgica was multiaccounting was pm'ed to me by an anonymous source, I just did homework to confirm it. Thank you sir, I'll keep you anonymous unless you want to come out for credit.
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03-24-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jalexand42
You deserve everything you get, liar/cheater/scumbag.




I think your reputation is hereby ruined, sir.
on this we agree completely
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03-24-2010 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KeanuReaver

me and zachvac are on pretty much the same wavelength, im just taking it a bit further. while it's illogical to not treat breezzz as a part of a larger pool of people fitting the same description it's equally as illogical to treat this individual shady connection by itself rather than part of a larger pool of equally shady connections. gary has hundreds if not thousands of 1st/2nd generation connections on pokerstars, many of them will look just as shady as this one.
Keanu, can you (or Zahcvac) explain this wavelength to me. You guys have both been fairly reasonable and outlined your points thus far at a level way way above the general BBV discourse.

In my mind the situation is:

Probability random player plays way above roll (A)
Probability random shot occurs in 24 hour period of prop (B)
Probability random 200nl player sits at table with Gary (C)
Probability random player loses money to Gary (D)
Probability random player plays hands that could be construed as suspect (E)
Probability that potentially suspect hand occur at crucial end part of prop period(F)
Probability random player has connection to Gary (G)

Isn't the probability of all of these events occurring something along the lines of:

p(A) x p(B) x p(C) x p(D) x p(E) x p(F) x p(G) = really really ridiculously unlikely?

*I'm not strong in math/stats stuff so if my notation or fundamental logic here is off please point it out.

Just trying to understand myself what is going on and raise the quality of posts in this thread above. ZOMG he folded one hand CHEATER!!! or WTFBBQ pay dat man his maneez
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03-24-2010 , 07:33 PM
i downloaded the video as well. here is a screenshot early on into the vid, where it clearly shows in the lobby "logged in as Nostalgica"



this is the thread on 2p2 where i found a link to these vids on pokertrikz in the first place

nostalgica's video thread

roseeker, do you deny being nostalgica on pokerstars now?
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03-24-2010 , 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waow
roseeker, do you deny being nostalgica on pokerstars now?
DUDE leave the guy alone, this is stressing him out and he's on easter break!

*******!
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03-24-2010 , 07:36 PM
updates?
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03-24-2010 , 07:40 PM
Nice work jalex.
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03-24-2010 , 07:40 PM
jalex droppin bombs
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03-24-2010 , 07:40 PM
lesson:
dont eff with jalex
lesson #2:
dont answer questions when you are not being truthful
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03-24-2010 , 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yanknpull
OJ denied killing Nicole
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03-24-2010 , 07:46 PM
Well, he did. Further, I believe Keanu and Zachvac were on his first jury.
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03-24-2010 , 07:48 PM
Obviously this means nothing but every asian person I pretty much have ever known has been the most honest, hardworking person that would never pull something like this, I would assume it is owed to their values, culture, etc. And of course there is that Jason Ho guy, but lets face it he was a freak that work makeup, took photoshoots, got plastic surgery, and stole money from naive players. Anyways, I guess this is the internet, and no one really knows anyone, but I am still on Gary's side after reading this whole thread. And yes, innocent until proven guilty please.
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03-24-2010 , 07:51 PM
Damn jalex, you just went Tony Montana on roseeker.
drama bomb

Edit: how stupid is roseeker to leave a trail of evidence on 2+2 and still deny MA. Queue the account freezing.

Last edited by ItsOnlyChips; 03-24-2010 at 08:00 PM.
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03-24-2010 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wtfasaurus
Obviously this means nothing but every asian person I pretty much have ever known has been the most honest, hardworking person that would never pull something like this, I would assume it is owed to their values, culture, etc. And of course there is that Jason Ho guy, but lets face it he was a freak that work makeup, took photoshoots, got plastic surgery, and stole money from naive players. Anyways, I guess this is the internet, and no one really knows anyone, but I am still on Gary's side after reading this whole thread. And yes, innocent until proven guilty please.
wow just wow, just stop
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03-24-2010 , 07:57 PM
Assuming that it has been established that it is highly likely that Gary was chip dumped to (and I think that it has been) does this mean he loses the bet or just that the bet is cancelled?

Is it necessary to demonstrate that he knowingly was chip dumped to in order to have him lose the bet rather than just cancelling the bet?

Is there anything in the hand histories that shows knowledge on Gary's part?
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03-24-2010 , 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalexand42
Drama bomb time.

(forgive me, but I'm going to have some fun with this post too...)



Really, are you sure? You don't trust me, but I definitely don't trust you.

So, since I'm eager to learn how to crush the games, I was watching some videos by a coach on Pokertrikz.com. I pull up a video that was posted 3/12/2010 that will teach me how to crush 180man $2.20 sngs. The video is awesome, cuz the pro takes 2nd place in a 180man!

So since we've already clearly established in this thread that Nostalgica on pokertrikz = Nostalgica on 2p2 = RoSeeker on 2p2 = RoSeeker on PokerStars....

Surely RoSeeker's account will show a 2nd place finish in a 180man $2.20 sometime after he became a Pokertrikz Pro on 1/21/2010....umm, nope.

But, hmm, this is interesting, the Nostalgica account on OPR has a couple 2nd place finishes in 180man $2.20's on March 5th, 2010....

Well, **** that could just be some crazy coincidence right, bbv readers?


You deserve everything you get, liar/cheater/scumbag.




I think your reputation is hereby ruined, sir.


Edit: Thanks to waow for helping me get screenshots, cuz for some reason I was having issues with the flash video on that site.
gg
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03-24-2010 , 07:59 PM
I guess I'm an OJ lover, because while RoSeeker is smellin like a 20 day old turd, I really hate sending someone to the chair because he has scummy friends.

I should have probably bet on this so I could feel the proper angst.
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03-24-2010 , 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yanknpull
Assuming that it has been established that it is highly likely that Gary was chip dumped to (and I think that it has been) does this mean he loses the bet or just that the bet is cancelled?

Is it necessary to demonstrate that he knowingly was chip dumped to in order to have him lose the bet rather than just cancelling the bet?

Is there anything in the hand histories that shows knowledge on Gary's part?
i hope people start chip dumping to me from now on when i play without me knowing it.
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03-24-2010 , 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wtfasaurus
Obviously this means nothing but every asian person I pretty much have ever known has been the most honest, hardworking person that would never pull something like this, I would assume it is owed to their values, culture, etc. And of course there is that Jason Ho guy, but lets face it he was a freak that work makeup, took photoshoots, got plastic surgery, and stole money from naive players. Anyways, I guess this is the internet, and no one really knows anyone, but I am still on Gary's side after reading this whole thread. And yes, innocent until proven guilty please.
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