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labron
182 30.43%
MJ (Michael or Maple)
319 53.34%
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George Mikan
5 0.84%
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21 3.51%
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20 3.34%
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05-14-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
And since lebron doesn't quit.
He's about to quit on his team this summer for the third different time.
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05-14-2018 , 05:59 PM
It’s ok victor .
This thread been long done and it didn’t die yet because 3 or 4 posters like you that don’t see the world clearly .
You take wishes has facts .

But it’s ok , the impact of believing Lebron is the goat on the world is negligible.
But please for all our sake, don’t vote for any politic representation, please !
Seriously .

Just stick to sport and we still might be able to save the world by letting you out of any important decision making .
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05-14-2018 , 06:06 PM
Which reminds me. When Jordan left, his team won a boatload of games and made game 7 of the ecsf.

LeBron left and Cavs had the worst record. Heat replaced him with a solid starter in Deng, and they missed the playoffs.

It's really not close.
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05-14-2018 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Which reminds me. When Jordan left, his team won a boatload of games and made game 7 of the ecsf.

LeBron left and Cavs had the worst record. Heat replaced him with a solid starter in Deng, and they missed the playoffs.

It's really not close.
False narrative .
Durant ( second or third best player in the league ?) join the warrior and they win less games ...
Got it ?
Now do the same logic in reverse and it shows your point ...
Bad bad bad ...

Anyway just stick to sports ...
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05-14-2018 , 06:20 PM
Deng solid starter

Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, and Reggie Miller historic trash

Got it
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05-14-2018 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
It’s ok victor .
This thread been long done and it didn’t die yet because 3 or 4 posters like you that don’t see the world clearly .
You take wishes has facts .

But it’s ok , the impact of believing Lebron is the goat on the world is negligible.
But please for all our sake, don’t vote for any politic representation, please !
Seriously .

Just stick to sport and we still might be able to save the world by letting you out of any important decision making .
Bro, the facts are that Jordan played in an era of weak competition of diluted talent with rules perfectly suited to 1on1 with an all time great supporting cast of hall of famers.

LeBron has dominated the toughest era despite zone defense rules perfectly suited to stop him. He has beaten all time great teams that were exponentially better than anyone Jordan played and done so with comparatively weak teammates.

Stop your hero worship and learn toanalyze facts and apply logic. It's blindingly obv.
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05-14-2018 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Bro, the facts are that Jordan played in an era of weak competition of diluted talent with rules perfectly suited to 1on1 with an all time great supporting cast of hall of famers.
Yeah such a shame we couldn't have seen the battles of 34yo solid starter Luol Deng vs. MJ.
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05-14-2018 , 06:24 PM
Pippen and Rodman: all time great hall of famers

All the other legit hall of famers from the era: complete trash lol athletes who LeBron would have scored 50ppg on
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05-14-2018 , 06:25 PM
Victor your worship of LeBron and inability to grasp reality is like identical to religious extremists. Like the crazy evangelical Christians. Your "belief" in things that aren't real and are not happening is that extreme and bizarre. Get help.
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05-14-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
False narrative .
Durant ( second or third best player in the league ?) join the warrior and they win less games ...
Got it ?
Now do the same logic in reverse and it shows your point ...
Bad bad bad ...

Anyway just stick to sports ...
I mean, if this is your logic then you really don't stand a chance. It's a miracle you can function, tho I question if the human race should even exist if it produces ppl this intellectually challenged.

How about this, I'll stick to sports, you stick to expelling air via your mourh.
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05-14-2018 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Which reminds me. When Jordan left, his team won a boatload of games and made game 7 of the ecsf.

LeBron left and Cavs had the worst record. Heat replaced him with a solid starter in Deng, and they missed the playoffs.

It's really not close.
Bulls replaced Jordan with Pete Myers. Won 2 less games and had some title equity. Game 5 handed to the Knicks on a BS call with a couple seconds left or else they are in east finals against pacers with HCA.

So um, I think he had good teammates and coach
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05-14-2018 , 06:35 PM
Find by me Vic !
As long you Stick to sport .
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05-14-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by alwarde4
Bulls replaced Jordan with Pete Myers. Won 2 less games and had some title equity. Game 5 handed to the Knicks on a BS call with a couple seconds left or else they are in east finals against pacers with HCA.

So um, I think he had good teammates and coach
Exactly. It shows he had excellent teammates relative to the league.
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05-14-2018 , 06:39 PM
when its all said and done LBJ > MJ



feel like if a player goes to 30 straight finals avg 40/15/15, olds will still be taking MJ over that guy
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05-14-2018 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Deng solid starter

Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, and Reggie Miller historic trash

Got it
Wow 4 hall of famers. Guess that settles it.

Dude you are sinking to Montreal levels bad. Esp like the inclusion of Reggie miller.
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05-14-2018 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by alwarde4

So um, I think he had good teammates and coach
Yeah basically this .

But trying to make an interference comparison Between 2 player is so scientifically and statiscally bias with victor theory.
Not worth discussing any further because it makes absolutely no sense .
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05-14-2018 , 06:43 PM
When you build a team specifically around LeBron letting him hand pick his teammates so that his STATS can be optimized at the risk of not winning, it's not a shock when they suck after he bolts.

He's always surrounded by role playing specialists suited for him and his motive and those players tend to suck when asked to do more.

Pippen is a better player than anyone LeBron had (other than maybe Wade) but Pippen was allowed to play like a great player even with MJ bc MJ cared about winning more than triple doubles and PER.

If Pippen were plucked from the 90s and brought to LeBron hed be forced to try to become a spot up shooting specialist and either suck it up and do it or be ran out of town.

LeBron is responsible for so many of the things that lead to the excuses you make for him.



Those stats are all he cares about and because you literally worship the man you pretend they are all that matter.

But its a team sport and the goal of the game is for your team to score more points than the other team across several best of 7 game series in a row.


And Jordan was objectively better than LeBron at accomplishing that goal.
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05-14-2018 , 06:44 PM
Actually Wade>>>Pippen not really that close. Bosh probably too.
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05-14-2018 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by the pleasure
when its all said and done LBJ > MJ



feel like if a player goes to 30 straight finals avg 40/15/15, olds will still be taking MJ over that guy
Gotta win them friend
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05-14-2018 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Yeah basically this .

But trying to make an interference comparison Between 2 player is so scientifically and statiscally bias with victor theory.
Not worth discussing any further because it makes absolutely no sense .
Lol dude you ate agreeing with me. Jordan had a sick supporting cast, esp relative to the rest of a diluted league.

LeBron former teams got crushed.

That's a huge factor in why any sort of proper analysis puts LeBron easily ahead.

Glad you agreed. Maybe there's hope for you. Ofc not really good for the Jordan argument but that's to be expected. Can't deny facts forever. When your argument requires insanely flexible mental gymnastics and twisting of facts, there's bound to be slipups.

There may even be time to delete your post and make some bizarre non sequitur about Kevin Durant making his team worse. Please don't fail me, I wouldn't want your 100% wrong rate to end.
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05-14-2018 , 06:57 PM
refresh my memory: did MJ ever get absolutely pumped in the ECF by a team missing two of their best players?
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05-14-2018 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Lol dude you ate agreeing with me. Jordan had a sick supporting cast, esp relative to the rest of a diluted league.

LeBron former teams got crushed.

That's a huge factor in why any sort of proper analysis puts LeBron easily ahead.

Glad you agreed. Maybe there's hope for you. Ofc not really good for the Jordan argument but that's to be expected. Can't deny facts forever. When your argument requires insanely flexible mental gymnastics and twisting of facts, there's bound to be slipups.

There may even be time to delete your post and make some bizarre non sequitur about Kevin Durant making his team worse. Please don't fail me, I wouldn't want your 100% wrong rate to end.
WoW lol you just prove my point and you don’t even see it ...
Nvm Vick just stick to sports thx !
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05-14-2018 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
Gotta win them friend
Basically this .
Not because you have the greatest talent in the world it makes you the goat .
Seem people here confuse the 2.

Greatest talent with a choking mentally fails of being the goat for example.

That’s why emphasis is on accomplishments and not on excuses of explaining fAilure ...
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05-14-2018 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
When you build a team specifically around LeBron letting him hand pick his teammates so that his STATS can be optimized at the risk of not winning, it's not a shock when they suck after he bolts.

He's always surrounded by role playing specialists suited for him and his motive and those players tend to suck when asked to do more.

Pippen is a better player than anyone LeBron had (other than maybe Wade) but Pippen was allowed to play like a great player even with MJ bc MJ cared about winning more than triple doubles and PER.

If Pippen were plucked from the 90s and brought to LeBron hed be forced to try to become a spot up shooting specialist and either suck it up and do it or be ran out of town.

LeBron is responsible for so many of the things that lead to the excuses you make for him.



Those stats are all he cares about and because you literally worship the man you pretend they are all that matter.

But its a team sport and the goal of the game is for your team to score more points than the other team across several best of 7 game series in a row.


And Jordan was objectively better than LeBron at accomplishing that goal.
This wrong. It's legit fake news and you know it. Perennial losers join LeBron and contend or so titles. For most of them their stats improve.

Josh is a hall of fame due to lebron. Mo Williams an all star.

Kyrie, love and Josh never won a playoff game and missed the playoffs all but one year.

Drew gooden, Donnell marshall, Damon jones, he smith, Eric snow, Mario chalmers. List goes on of role players that won with LeBron and no where else goes on.
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05-14-2018 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
refresh my memory: did MJ ever get absolutely pumped in the ECF by a team missing two of their best players?

Kyrie like the 7th best C’s player.
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