What are you rambling about?
LeBron left cle and they won less than 20 games.but bc the bulls didn'take the ecf he didn't have a drastically better team than LeBron? This despite winning 55 games , taking the Knicks to 7 games and the fact they would have won that series if not for a horrible foul call when Hubert Davis didn't get touched shooting a 3.


Yea that cle team is just as good as that bulls team without LeBron and Jordan respectively .great logic.

And stop with the love pippen comparisons.you make yourself look like a complete idiot.

Those later showtime laker teams were interesting because Magic was clearly their best player but they didn't need him to be their leading scorer so worthy and others who would've been your more typical #2 and #3 guys had higher production than if they would've played with say a LeBron or MJ. They had 7 guys that averaged double digits but Worthy was definitely one of their offensive go to guys. Magic worthy and Scott all averaged about 20 during the regular season. Worthy had a monster scoring game in game 7 so he got the MVP but the MVP should've been Magic. Kind of like how Curry should've clearly been the 2016 Finals MVP not Iggy. You get weird years with Finals MVP some time. Kevin Love would never be a Finals MVP on this team just because the way it's constructed. LeBron has to do too much.

Stop the obsession with love. His numbers don't need to go up. He was hurt a quarter of the regular season and he's the clear # 2 on the team and his numbers back that up. He's around top 10 in the league for second leading scorers. He's fine for his role.

Made AST in 1989-1990

You would think with the incessant goal post shifting Montreal would actually score one at some point. But nope. Still maintaining that perfect wrongness rate. Impressive actually.

LeBron quitting on the Celtics floor against massively inferior talent to bring his failed GOAT campaign full circle is going to be the sweetest thing

George Hill > Jordan imo

+1

It's comical watching the supposed GOAT get clowned on by a bunch of Celtic scrubs.

Boston had a tougher time with Antetokounmpo and the Bucks FFS.

40-point triple double is some wicked clowning indeed

I used to think that. I think his biggest win was vs. GSW in 16' that kinda cemented a chunk of his legacy and should have.


now that a certain top 3 player slinked his way to a certain team, I dont think we can argue the rings thing that heavily now. since its brutal winning one., I think finals apps and performance should weigh more heavily now.

The GS win allowed him to be considered a top 5 player of alltime...not enough to make him the GOAT tho

Boston also won the first two games at home vs the Bucks and it ended up going 7. Also Boston does not have “a bunch of scrubs”. Their most talented guys are on the younger side but they have two top 3 picks in Tatum and Brown who are very talented with high ceilings and are good right now (Tatum was effectively drafted #1 overall). Smart was a top 5 pick I believe and Horford is a max guy. They also have one of the best coaches of all time.

While Lebron is definitely not playing up to par this series (and deserves a lot of blame) its pretty lol to say that about Boston.

Winning multiple titles on a dynasty team has always been about having a GOAT-type player and adding multiple all-star teammates.

... unless you're Jordan, and you can win 6 titles (including a GOAT 72-win title season) with only 5 total all-stars for your career.

Edit: 6 all-stars if you count 95 where he only played 17 games

2 games away from this debate being over and the thread being locked. The LaStans might as well get their troll posts in now while they can

Sounds like you made a lot of money backing this great Boston team without Kyrie and Heyward.

The spin and revisionist history is so LOL

Well most of the public didn’t realize how good the Celtics were based on the lines from the sixers and Cavs series especially before the series started and even after the sixers series games 2/3 where the lines didn’t move enough. Did you make a ton of money on Boston? I think we all thought the Cavs weren’t that great after the Indy series and during the regular season but Toronto’s poor play specifically against the Cavs is likely a lot of the source of more confidence in the Cavs. The Cavs after their top 4 players in this series, lebron, love, Korver and TT have been a dumpster fire while the Celtics have had quality contributions from a lot more of their players. I didn’t have high expectations for hill and smith but they’ve both been awful and Clarkson, nance have been lost all playoffs. Boston has shown a lot of hustle and smart defensive play so far in the playoffs which is enough right now especially when horford, jaylon and Tatum as well as rozier/smart have been playing at pretty good level the entire playoffs. Not sure if it’ll be enough if they make then finals but it’s enough to beat the worst of the Cavs teams of the last 4 seasons. Kyrie is clearly missed this series by the Cavs.

Its true. This Celtics team without their 2 best players is 10 standard deviations better than any team Jordan faced. The fact that LeBron put up a fight while getting swept just proves that he's GOAT.

I thought Boston was a good bet at the series price before the Cavs series and was also shocked at how generous the Boston odds were throughout the Philly series. The latter is documented on 2p2. I have lost a bit betting against Boston on individual game lines but that’s not really relevant to thinking their team is a bunch of bums.

There’s no spin and revisionist history. Posting that Boston is a “bunch of scrubs” is just as dumb if not worse than defending LeBron’s play and attitude so far this series. Boston is a good team with talented players. They were under estimated because of injuries to their presumed best players, youth of their talent, and Horford’s career of being very bad in the playoffs. It’s clear these concerns have not panned out.

The issue with you is you are a blind Lebron hater incapable of logic when it comes to him. You were silent in rounds 1-2 after branding Lebron a choker early on while he was dad dicking overall and in the clutch. Your hatred blinds your thinking so much that you’ve actually convinced yourself Boston is a band of losers.

The reality is Lebron is playing below average overall for the series and giving pathetic defensive effort whereas Boston is giving max effort, executing well, and significantly outcoaching Cleveland. Thinking Lebron is playing poorly with a bad attitude is a correct view. Boston having no talent scrubs isn’t.

lebron played well yesterday.

He played well overall yesterday but his defensive effort was awful and he was awful in G1. Fair to say he’s been below par for the series

Decent chance he was concussed yesterday and they lied about it. He was much worse after he got dazed.

Had to jeopardize the team by trying to create a nice narrative though. "Sources" will leak the concussion story once the series is over don't worry.

Helps when those all-star appearances all went to a guy who got named to the all-decade team for the 90s.

well since "par" is goat level, then yes he has been.

anyway, hope he superteams it up in houston next year.

Oh man LeBron/Harden/CP3 would be the triumvirate of fraudulence

Would be incredible to watch GS beat them as underdogs

If only LeBron had a teammate that made an all-decade team

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...00-2010#slide2

If only Lebron had a teammate that made an all-decade team when they were both playing together...oh, that’s right, he didn’t.