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05-02-2014 , 06:18 PM

#326

mcb33f

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cphoya got the best land imo (legit #1 overall value contender imo), nauru is literally headed to failed state status as it is even without da pox and taipans. my buddy has been to nauru andconfirms it's the most depressing place on the planet, the daily lives of the current inhabitants pretty much comes down to:
eat canned food
contemplate suicide

has some pretty beaches tho so it's got that going for it

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05-02-2014 , 06:20 PM

#327

DodgerIrish

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One of their leaders died of diabetes which is very common there apparently

Must be all the sodium in the packaged food

If the snakes don't get you the 'betes will, o and the smallpox is a concern too I guess

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05-02-2014 , 06:22 PM

#328

A-Rod's Cousin

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Snakes of course are strong. Your island sounds miserable.

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05-02-2014 , 06:27 PM

#329

Dudd

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It's going to be hard for someone to overtake Nauru for most miserable place in this draft

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05-02-2014 , 06:32 PM

#330

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 88,566

Hoya doing work on intent of draft for quick death for his people

It doesn't really matter his leader at this point bc everyone gonna die within 27 days

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05-02-2014 , 06:38 PM

#331

TalkingDonkey

RIZZAHHHHHH

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,137

ayn rand has some serious potential

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05-02-2014 , 06:42 PM

#332

STA654

Here's some straight talk

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21,072

are the citizens of our fine countries allowed to own firearms other than the ones we grant them? if yes, only ones they have circa 2014 or are they allowed to obtain whatever they want given their situation?

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05-02-2014 , 06:58 PM

#333

NHA

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Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,809

Stalin > Hitler imo. At least Hitler wasn't running his country into the ground.

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05-02-2014 , 07:02 PM

#334

NHA

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Stalin isn't my favorite lolCommie leader, but he's definitely the most reliable in terms of death. There's a few others that are just as equally disillusioned, then a massive drop off.

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05-02-2014 , 07:03 PM

#335

Hold'em 07

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Round 3, Pick #27:

Apparently these little guys mainly live in rain forests. I'm pretty sure it rains in Rome.

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The average dose carried will vary between locations, but the average wild P. terribilis is generally estimated to contain about one milligram of poison, enough to kill about 10,000 mice. This estimate will vary in turn, but most agree this dose is enough to kill between 10 and 20 humans, which correlates to up to two African bull elephants. This is roughly 15,000 humans per gram.

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The golden poison frog's skin is densely coated in alkaloid poison, one of a number of poisons common to dart frogs (batrachotoxins), which prevents nerves from transmitting impulses, leaving the muscles in an inactive state of contraction. Alkaloid batrachotoxins can be stored by frogs for years after the frog is deprived of a food-based source, and such toxins do not readily deteriorate, even when transferred to another surface

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The golden poison frog, like most other poisonous frogs, stores its poison in skin glands. Due to their poison, the frogs taste vile to predators; P. terribilis poison kills whatever eats it

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The equivalent of just two grains of table salt (less than 1 milligram), flowing in a person’s bloodstream, can cause death in mere minutes. In fact, animals can die just by touching a spot where a golden dart frog has recently been.

Can't touch it. Can't eat it. The best part is that these things will be chilling in the gardens/near the crops (the ones that aren't destroyed by hundreds or thousands of screw propelled vehicles) chowing down on beatles and flies. Leave some of that toxin on the food my people will be eating. k thx

Country - Vatican City
Vehicle - Screw propelled thing
Animal - Golden Poison Dart Frog

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05-02-2014 , 07:07 PM

#336

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 73,265

There's a very good reason I didn't draft that, and it's this:

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the high toxicity of P. terribilis appears to be due to the consumption of small insects or other arthropods, and one of these may truly be the most poisonous creature on Earth. Scientists have suggested the crucial insect may be a small beetle from the family Melyridae. At least one species of these beetles produces the same toxin found in P. terribilis. The Melyridae are cosmopolitan. Their relatives in Colombian rainforests could be the source of the batrachotoxins found in the highly toxic Phyllobates frogs of that region.

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Since easily purchased foods are not rich in the alkaloids required to produce batrachotoxins, captive frogs do not produce toxins and they eventually lose their toxicity in captivity. In fact, many hobbyists and herpetologists have reported that most dart frogs will not consume ants at all in captivity, though ants constitute the larger portion of their diets in the wild, likely due to the unavailability of the natural prey species of ants to captive frog keepers. Though all poison frogs lose their toxicity when deprived of certain foods, and captive-bred golden poison frogs are born harmless. . .

So unless you have the correct beetle/ant, only found in the South American rain forest (apparently), your frogs are harmless.

Unless they arrive all poisoned up, as it were. Then they're awesome.

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05-02-2014 , 07:10 PM

#337

Hold'em 07

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Alkaloid batrachotoxins can be stored by frogs for years after the frog is deprived of a food-based source, and such toxins do not readily deteriorate, even when transferred to another surface

#yolo

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05-02-2014 , 07:11 PM

#338

CPHoya

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I agree that if they're just brought from the rain forest to the Vatican they're gonna wreck people.

EDIT: Yeah in that case the poisonous-frog-infested-Vatican is hilarious.

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05-02-2014 , 07:11 PM

#339

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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I think for intent of this draft that he gets them all poisoned up the whole time

We are moving animals all around the world to our countries and not needing to care about if they would survive there or not

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05-02-2014 , 07:18 PM

#340

CPHoya

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This is also hilarious, and perhaps the most SE-appropriate fact I can imagine:

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Golden poison frogs are curious, bold, and seemingly aware of the fact that they are next to invulnerable, making no attempt to conceal themselves and even flaunting their striking colours to intimidate potential predators.

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05-02-2014 , 07:19 PM

#341

mcb33f

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you done goofed on the frog thing bro, lol at harmless frogs being the animal even though they apparently have cool personalities. honestly they're probably going to die as a rainforest species anyway

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05-02-2014 , 07:24 PM

#342

A-Rod's Cousin

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Originally Posted by STA654

You pick one weapon for everyone to have. They will never acquire another weapon. I mean they can pick up rocks and throw them and stuff or cut a tree down and fashion something out of it but they will never develop any other item that is a man-made mass-produced weapon.

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05-02-2014 , 07:25 PM

#343

A-Rod's Cousin

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Originally Posted by mcb33f

So what do his citizens eat for meat? Veggies? How do those survive with corkscrews driving over them 24/7? No fish. If dead birds fall from the sky they can eat those.

Things in the Vatican city are going to be very downtrodden.

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05-02-2014 , 07:30 PM

#344

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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Yeah, only meat is poison frog and nowhere to plant food

Also like pairing of frogs and Vatican...

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05-02-2014 , 07:31 PM

#345

CPHoya

Warden of Taipan Island

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I do have to admit that I can't really see where fresh water comes from under the "no trade" rule, which means the crops can only be watered by the rain. . .

. . . and it's only 110 acres, which is .17 square miles, which is to say lol at growing enough crops to support a civilization.

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05-02-2014 , 07:36 PM

#346

A-Rod's Cousin

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They'll probably resort to eating the soil and worms and stuff. Then, cannibalism.

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05-02-2014 , 07:36 PM

#347

Hold'em 07

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Originally Posted by mcb33f

I don't think you know how poison works bro

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05-02-2014 , 07:36 PM

#348

A-Rod's Cousin

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These are all starting to look like iterations of hell - or at least purgatory.

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05-02-2014 , 07:41 PM

#349

dlk9s

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Sniped! I was going to go with flamethrower and had a wonderful plan.

I'm on the clock and need a bit to consider my options.

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05-02-2014 , 07:43 PM

#350

mcb33f

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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07

I don't think you know how poison works bro

even if you dump frogs straight from the jungle they're all gonna be dead immediately due to non-tropical conditions. then even if they do survive the next generation is gonna be completely harmless, so within literally 1 generation your society is gonna be eating delicious frogslegs

no getting around it