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05-03-2014 , 06:41 PM
I owe a pick.

Country: Afghanistan.

More later.
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05-03-2014 , 07:24 PM
So I have a question regarding the mustard gas and cyclosarin picks.

Are they draftable as a stand-alone chemical compound with no limit on their storage or delivery mechanism? Are they delivered to each citizen in a safe container? Are they delivered as a munition of some type? Shouldn't the delivery system have to be selected with the chemical?

I ask because, generally speaking, they are used as a munition. One of them can be an aerosol but that was dispersed by an airplane.
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05-03-2014 , 08:07 PM
Belarus seems like complete spew

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Many streams and 11,000 lakes are found in Belarus.[69]
If you're banking on the elevated radiation from Chernobyl to increase your cancer rate by 100% compared to a normal country, I think you've already conceded defeat in this draft. Immediate death is the aim here, not a bunch of 60 year olds with prostate cancer.
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05-03-2014 , 10:39 PM
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I select the M29 Davy Crocket Gun

Amazing pick. This picture for some reason reminds me of the old lathe thread from back in the day, just imaging everyone having one of these sitting in their living room like its normal had me LOLing hard.

This draft is amazing, one of the best I've had the pleasure to rail
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05-03-2014 , 10:43 PM
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Belarus seems like complete spew



If you're banking on the elevated radiation from Chernobyl to increase your cancer rate by 100% compared to a normal country, I think you've already conceded defeat in this draft. Immediate death is the aim here, not a bunch of 60 year olds with prostate cancer.
I think my team is one of the worst assembled. Funny since I've had this idea for like 3+ years. I'm definitely not banking on cancer but it's pretty funny that their farmland is still loaded with radiation.

I got a landlocked cold country that irl nobody wants to live in. And I wanted something big enough that my Bagger 293 wasn't overtaking the entire land, but not so big (like UNRAFTED COLD COUNTRY) that the vehicles were not also an eyesight pollutant if you will. There are a bunch of cold countries but most of them have access to all kinds of salmon.

Mostly, I have no idea what I want to draft in any of the rest of my categories so I just went ahead and picked my land and got it out of the way.

I think the category I'm most excited about is the musician/song category. We're already starting to get a picture of what a lot of these places look like - once we add ambient music to the landscape it will just reach a whole new level of epicness.
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05-03-2014 , 10:55 PM
James Naismith prbly ****ing sucked too

HOF either way
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05-03-2014 , 11:08 PM
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James Naismith prbly ****ing sucked too

HOF either way
Confirmed, only losing record in the history of Kansas basketball
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05-03-2014 , 11:09 PM
As a casual observer, just wanted to say how awesome this draft is
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05-03-2014 , 11:42 PM
ARC, thoughts on my question? It impacts my next selection.
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05-04-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
So I have a question regarding the mustard gas and cyclosarin picks.

Are they draftable as a stand-alone chemical compound with no limit on their storage or delivery mechanism? Are they delivered to each citizen in a safe container? Are they delivered as a munition of some type? Shouldn't the delivery system have to be selected with the chemical?

I ask because, generally speaking, they are used as a munition. One of them can be an aerosol but that was dispersed by an airplane.
Someone else PMed me this question. I told him if you select a chemical weapon, you get whatever mechanism is required to distribute it in the manner in which it was historically used to cause mass harm.

So whoever chose mustard gas gets whatever mechanism you need to use mustard gas in the way we all want to use it. But the mechanism is only used for that purpose. If the mechanism could otherwise be used as a weapon, it will not be possible in this draft. The mechanism-as-weapon will only be manifest in the ONE way you are choosing it to be. Which is to distribute the gas.

As far as storage... the country has unlimited mustard gas. Just imagine it's somewhere safe and a citizen can go procure it at any time for free. It will be handed to them in a completely safe manner (ie a jar or what have you). The citizen then fills their weapon with the gas then uses the weapon to distribute the gas.

There is not to be any "accidental" poisoning. No leaks or whatever will occur at the outlet. The only time the gas will become harmful is when a citizen explicitly intends it to be so.

Basically what I'm going for here is that the citizens have to make the mental decision to cause harm.

If you choose an aerosol that is only distributed via airplane then the weapon is effectively "airplane+aerosol". However, the airplane is ONLY used to distribute aerosol. Not to travel from one point to another or to be used as a giant missile a la the twin towers terror attack. In other words, beyond distributing the aerosol...the airplane is ENTIRELY useless. However, everyone in your country somehow knows how to operate the plane and dump the aerosol.

Hope this helps. You get the weapon's intent (the gases intent) without ANY additional benefit of the distribution mechanism.
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05-04-2014 , 06:09 AM
So in terms of the airplane, you could consider it like the planes that drop stuff when you play Worms: Armageddon. Each person has a walkie talkie where they call the plane and control where to make the drop.
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05-04-2014 , 07:15 AM
i' wont be awake until 8 hours from now. feel free to skip me if its my turn.
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05-04-2014 , 11:33 AM
For my leader, I'll take an especially sick and twisted ruler.

"He roasted children, whom he fed to their mothers. And (he) cut off the breasts of women, and forced their husbands to eat them. After that, he had them all impaled."

"Soon, Vlad became impatient; he thrived on watching people mindlessly carry out his each and every whim. He controlled his country by inducing fear and revoking all independence. Impalement wasn’t just to keep order, to him; the executions were a leisurely pass time. He would impale women for nothing, his reason being they weren’t working hard enough. Some say he took sexual pleasure from this. He even impaled the children and the elderly because to him, they were useless. He killed people on a whim and hung the corpses around his kingdom from trees and walls and the roof tops. The unbearably foul stench of death filled Valackia; turning the capitol into a grim, unbearable graveyard. Every time an old corpse was cut down a new one would replace it. Nobody could leave, they would be impaled. Vlad used his power to make the people lived in fear.

Vlad took care in ensuring his victims had the worst, most horrific death imaginable, worse than crucifixion even. Disgustingly so Vlad also had a strange appetite. He would summon soldiers to gather the blood of his recent victims and put the foul liquid in golden bowls. Then sitting alone, he would dip his bread into the bowls, slurping up the glugging liquid like it was merely gravy. This made him feel like he had the ultimate power, the power over life and death, in his mind, he was like God himself.

Vlad was using his power to sadistically murder and torture innocent human beings, purely for the sake of his entertainment. He envisioned that staking’s would rid Valackia of crime, but somewhere along the lines he became unhinged and mentally unstable. Vlad was now in absolute control, fear let him control the lives of thousands, giving him a greater sense of empowerment and importance."



That's right. My people have to deal with Dracula now.

Roster:
Hand Grenades
Everclear
Unicycle
Vlad the Impaler

Last edited by Nicholasp27; 05-04-2014 at 11:44 AM.
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05-04-2014 , 11:41 AM
If you get the weapon plus the delivery system, the Davy Crockett isn't looking so hot right now
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05-04-2014 , 11:55 AM
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So in terms of the airplane, you could consider it like the planes that drop stuff when you play Worms: Armageddon. Each person has a walkie talkie where they call the plane and control where to make the drop.
No, each person has to get into the plane and fly it themselves. Assume they know how to do this. They must land wherever they took off from. So they cannot traverse land but to fly over it only to drop whatever they have.
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05-04-2014 , 11:55 AM
With our fourth pick in the Modern Era Death and Destruction Draft, Taipan Island selects:

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The most lethal nerve agent known to man. . .


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A chemical weapon so wicked that decontamination must be completed before anyone even considers providing the victim with any form of treatment. . .


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A weapon that adheres to everything and lingers for days or weeks. . .


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A weapon from THE ROCK. . .


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Ethyl ({2-[bis(propan-2-yl)amino]ethyl}sulfanyl)(methyl)phosphinate


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VX Gas


This doesn't need a particularly long write-up.

Fact sheet:
  • It is odorless and tasteless, and can be distributed as a liquid, both pure and as a mixture with a polymer in the form of thickened agent, or as an aerosol.
  • VX has the texture and feel of motor oil, which means it has a high persistence in the environment.
  • VX blocks the action of acetylcholinesterase, thus resulting in initial violent contractions, followed by sustained supercontraction restricted to the subjunctional endplate sarcoplasm and prolonged depolarizing neuromuscular blockade, the latter resulting in flaccid paralysis of all the muscles in the body. Sustained paralysis of the diaphragm muscle causes death by asphyxiation.
  • A special form has been developed that is so adhesive that it is virtually impossible to remove from the surface that it is in contact with.
  • VX is an "area denial weapon" due to its physical properties.
  • Liquid VX is approximately 100 times more lethal than sarin, while the aerosol is approximately ten times more lethal. It is approximately 5 times more lethal than cyclosarin.
  • It is really, really bad.

I should note here, in the interest of fairness, that what The Rock portrays is nonsense; your skin doesn't boil off your body.

The smallpox will handle that.

EDIT: BONUS - someone is sure to freak out about the snakes and finally try to eradicate them with the VX. That will not go well.

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Roster

Smallpox
Nauru
Coastal Taipans
VX Gas

Last edited by CPHoya; 05-04-2014 at 12:17 PM.
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05-04-2014 , 11:55 AM
We need picks from CPHoya, daniel10, and Ray Hortonx2.
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05-04-2014 , 11:58 AM
CPHoya doin' work.

As long as you don't draft Nick Cage as you reformist, you should be strong here.
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05-04-2014 , 11:58 AM
Wow Vlad is an elite pick, although someone is probably going to grenade his ass like immediately.
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05-04-2014 , 11:59 AM
Vlad is a great pick. Was my #1 leader choice early on.
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05-04-2014 , 12:00 PM
I feel bad for Vlad, all he can do is blow people up. Not a fan of the synergy between him and a society with non stabbing weapons
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05-04-2014 , 12:01 PM
People can get sticks and stuff so he can still impale others

He liked to do it with dull stakes anyway to make it more painful and last longer
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05-04-2014 , 12:03 PM
. . . at least it's an ethos (?)
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05-04-2014 , 12:58 PM
Just found this and read the whole thing. Great concept and just tons of lols.

Loved the vatican pick for sure and taipan island is also really legit. Most of the vehicle picks are just total spew since the uselessness of "vehicle" is only surpassed by the music pick.
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05-04-2014 , 02:30 PM
Alright I'm going.

For my drink I'm choosing Baby Mice Wine.



From Cracked:

"Baby mice wine is a traditional Chinese and Korean "health tonic," which apparently tastes like raw gasoline. Little mice, eyes still closed, are plucked from the embrace of their loving mothers and stuffed (while still alive) into a bottle of rice wine. They are left to ferment while their parents wring their tiny mouse paws in despair, tears drooping sadly from the tips of their whiskers."

From AllThatIsInteresting:

"Found in rural areas of both China and Korea, baby mice wine is at the very least sure to turn your stomach into prickly little knots. This nasty drink is made by drowning live, day-old mice in rice moonshine, and letting them ferment for over a year. Known as a “health tonic” in certain communities, baby mice wine is credited with healing a variety of ailments, from common colds to liver disease. To incur full health benefits, the unlucky drinker is instructed to eat the dead mice after drinking the bottle’s contents."

Unfortunately, my inhabitants won't be allowed to eat the mice even if they wanted to, since this is not my drafted animal. So they just dump the dead baby mice out on the ground after finishing the nasty ass drink, while chilling in their giant excavator in Belarus trying to not get the Spanish Flu, and hearing the near constant sound of machine gun fire down below.

Team:
Spanish Flu
Bagger 293 excavator vehicles
Machine guns
Belarus
Baby Mice Wine
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