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03-26-2008 , 12:02 AM
Oh please if Wenger actually knew what he was doing he would strengthen in the January and Arsenal would have wrapped up the title fact is he didn't. RVP was already out so he knew that going in. Eduardo had like 4 goals in the league so let's not use that an excuse. Arsenal has no chance of winning the league the main problem is the defence is just not good enough and Wenger must have been spending to much time with the bottle if he thought it was. I mean COME ON PHILLIP SENDEROS what a joke.
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03-26-2008 , 12:09 AM
Senderos has been playing really well the past few weeks and should have played instead of Kolo, no joke. Secondly, you are right, Wenger should have bought and that is mainly why they lack depth.

Edit: The main problem with our defense is that Kolo and Gallas are far too similar, our FB's have been lights out and I legitimately think they are the two best in the league.
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03-26-2008 , 12:10 AM
Like I said in my last post, Wenger not getting anyone who can play left or right wing is what killed this team. The middle 4 (Ade, Hleb, Cesc, and Flamini) had to play 100% for our system to work. Without Rosicky or anyone to play left wing with any kind of competence teams are able to successfully play a bunker up the middle and clog any kind of space for the 4 to create space and opportunities.

The group played over their heads for a couple of months and got out to a nice lead but without adding in the window, we all have to suffer through the Eboue era (0 goals, 1 assist....ALL ****ING YEAR). Hopefully we find some suitable wings for next year, resign Flamini (please get it done, he's been a stalwart), ditch Eboue and maybe even Gallas (good ****ing capitancy @ Birmingham, nice fake, uninspiring speech @ Chelsea pregame) and then make a run at the league.




Also, I think there are a handful of posters in this thread that could do as well as Grant has done. It wouldn't be too terribly difficult to manage that much talent. The egos would be the hard part. Selection tough? Pffft.
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03-26-2008 , 12:16 AM
Flamini is gone in the summer Arsenal won't pay him
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03-26-2008 , 12:23 AM
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Flamini is gone in the summer Arsenal won't pay him
Inexcusable.
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03-26-2008 , 12:29 AM
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Flamini is gone in the summer Arsenal won't pay him
I actually think Wenger doesn't have a choice and they will pay him. Gilberto is gone, and that leaves two true DM, and maybe two potentials. The two true DM's are Song and Djourou. The two potentials are Toure and Diaby. Only Song and Toure would interest me. If they were to bring in someone, its unlikely he would better than Flamini, unless they paid a lot for a transfer and a high wage bill. I think re-signing Flamini makes the most sense, and I bet Wenger does it.
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03-26-2008 , 12:38 AM
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Flamini is gone in the summer Arsenal won't pay him
We're not talking about the Toffees. Arsenal generally keep their own (not that Everton would know much about that concept), they just don't add from outside as much.
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03-26-2008 , 12:47 AM
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Flamini is gone in the summer Arsenal won't pay him

True story,apparently Flamini and his agent met with Inter officials before the recent CL game in Milan when Wenger found out he went ape ****.
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03-26-2008 , 12:50 AM
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Arsenal generally keep their own
Hmmm, Henry, Viera, Overmars, Petit, Anelka?


All sold in or approching their prime.
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03-26-2008 , 12:56 AM
Henry and Viera, really? Plus selling Anelka got Henry, which I think was a fair trade off, no?

I think Arsenal got the best years out of all of them, sans Anelka.
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03-26-2008 , 12:57 AM
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True story,apparently Flamini and his agent met with Inter officials before the recent CL game in Milan when Wenger found out he went ape ****.
You are thinking of Hleb.
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03-26-2008 , 12:58 AM
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True story,apparently Flamini and his agent met with Inter officials before the recent CL game in Milan when Wenger found out he went ape ****.
If its a true story, no need for the word "apparently."
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03-26-2008 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mocky
Hmmm, Henry, Viera, Overmars, Petit, Anelka?


All sold in or approching their prime.
I guess the meaning of the word "generally" escapes you.
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03-26-2008 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by apple11
Oh please if Wenger actually knew what he was doing he would strengthen in the January and Arsenal would have wrapped up the title fact is he didn't. RVP was already out so he knew that going in. Eduardo had like 4 goals in the league so let's not use that an excuse. Arsenal has no chance of winning the league the main problem is the defence is just not good enough and Wenger must have been spending to much time with the bottle if he thought it was. I mean COME ON PHILLIP SENDEROS what a joke.
Funny how all of you b!tches come out of the woodwork once Arsenal falls flat. If all this was so obvious, why did you proclaim in mid-February that the Prem might as well be handed over to Arsenal? Geez, the January window was past, but nobody heard your brilliance about Arsenal's flaws. I guess you've been spending too much time with the bottle as well. At least Arsene drinks from the bottle rather than sitting on it like a fruity Toffees supporter.

By the way, the Arsenal supporters on this board were not the ones saying that the title was wrapped up months ago. All along, many posters (especially TSC) were pointing out that the team had flaws and was playing over its head. We've been enjoying the ride, but the team just doesn't seem to have the staying power needed. No need to be a bunch of b!tches and pretend that we've been touting our team as a sure thing all along. Obviously, it would have been nice if Arsenal kept its early form, but it didn't happen. Anyway, all you bonesmugglers have your fun with it.

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03-26-2008 , 01:12 AM
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You are thinking of Hleb.

My bad was thinking of this article i read a few days ago,

http://msxml.infospace.com/_1_2T8UT1...al/7308599.stm
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03-26-2008 , 01:13 AM
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If its a true story, no need for the word "apparently."
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I guess the meaning of the word "generally" escapes you.

ROFL this is the Premier league thread not grammar 101.
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03-26-2008 , 01:20 AM
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ROFL this is the Premier league thread not grammar 101.
We now what it is. How can you report a "true story" by using the word apparently? Makes no sense.

Why do you attempt to counter an argument by taking it out of context? It makes no sense to point out that Arsenal has let some players go in their prime ... but, that does not address the statement you were attempting to counter.

I'm sorry if education is not a priority with Man U. fans.
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03-26-2008 , 01:21 AM
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My bad was thinking of this article i read a few days ago,

http://msxml.infospace.com/_1_2T8UT1...al/7308599.stm
I saw that same article today. I thought he was originally tied to AC Milan and not Inter. Anyway, its up in the air, neither team will have the same coach next season IMO. Makes me think he won't be moving to either IMO.
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03-26-2008 , 01:43 AM
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We now what it is. How can you report a "true story" by using the word apparently? Makes no sense.

Why do you attempt to counter an argument by taking it out of context? It makes no sense to point out that Arsenal has let some players go in their prime ... but, that does not address the statement you were attempting to counter.

I'm sorry if education is not a priority with Man U. fans.
winning trophies is...



ZING
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03-26-2008 , 01:43 AM
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We now what it is.

PMSL
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03-26-2008 , 01:56 AM
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Oski, Why must you bring up the Lions and make me remember that i'm a season ticket holder of that suckfest??

Anyways I was on the official man utd board and came across something fairly interesting about Uniteds performances with Scholes in the lineup and it looked something like this.



I know Scholes is a red legend through and through but it's pretty interesting to look at those and see how the teams performance goes when he is in the lineup.
I think the problem is that scholes has certainly lost a step. He is still a prem quality player and would start at many other clubs, but like hell that would happen unless it was oldham. I hate saying that Scholesy shouldn't be on the pitch that much because of everything he has done for us for such a long time, so I won't, but only will insinuate it. We're obviously a different club when he isn't on the pitch and less of him would mean more of Carrick and Anderson in their natural positions.

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Arsenal's performance over the past 5 games has nothing to do with choking. The team lacks depth, especially at on the wings and at CB. If we had a healthy Eduardo, Rosicky, and RVP(fully fit) things would be somewhat different. However it was the same story last year as well, and Wenger did jack **** about it.

Secondly, I also think the injury to Eduardo has negatively impacted many of the players on the team.

That being said, Arsenal can beat any team on its day, and thats without debate. I also think Arsenal can beat Liverpool over two legs.

Anyone who says the league is over is crazy. If Arsenal can turn their form around and Chelsea keep playing this way anything can happen. ManU have two massive games, albeit at home, against Arsenal and Chelsea. Plus, they have two potentially tough games against Villa and Blackburn. I said this earlier, Chelsea have the easiest remaining games, with only ManU and and Everton to really bother them.
Aresenal's depth was a constant problem from teh begining. It was certainly something I noted at the start of the season

I don't think anyone is really saying that the league is solved at this point, but, lets also call a spade a spade, you are the same person who was saying that ManU didn't stand much of a chance because of our poor start in the first several matches, and I noted how the early season doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the real meat of the season that is late december-march which is proving me right.

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Henry and Viera, really? Plus selling Anelka got Henry, which I think was a fair trade off, no?

I think Arsenal got the best years out of all of them, sans Anelka.

Petit and Overmars were very much in their Prime when they were sold. We will see with Henry, and it's been kinda clear the Viera was on teh downslope of his career. Saying that Henry for Anelka was a trade off is a bit off as henry was on his way to Highbury before the Anelka deal and Henry was still considered a winger at that point in his career and not a striker
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03-26-2008 , 02:59 AM
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winning trophies is...



ZING
Amen
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03-26-2008 , 03:00 AM
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Saying that Henry for Anelka was a trade off is a bit off as henry was on his way to Highbury before the Anelka deal and Henry was still considered a winger at that point in his career and not a striker
Sounds similar to the situation with Theo Walcott. Or was he not a winger at southampton?
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03-26-2008 , 03:34 AM
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Hmmm, Henry, Viera, Overmars, Petit, Anelka?


All sold in or approching their prime.
He wasn't technically sold but I miss Pires the most
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03-26-2008 , 07:19 AM
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Hmmm, Henry, Viera, Overmars, Petit, Anelka?


All sold in or approching their prime.
Many many reasons to criticise Arsenal, especially there tendency to choke towards the end of the season, but criticizing Wengers transfer dealings is dumb as ****.

Probably the best aspect of Wenger as a manager is his transfer dealing where he is miles ahead of Ferguson. Ive never known a manager buy so many players where I am like "Whooooooooooo???????" and then a few games later I am OIC.

On Anelka he made a massive profit, on a player who has never fulfilled his obvious potential due to attitude, Vierra was obviously past it, Henry cost relatively nothing for perhaps the best ever player outside of Chelsea to have ever played in the League (Better than Ronaldo imo), and to even question wether he is still in his prime implies that he is past it, because his prime stands out like a blazing sun.

Still shame he cant get his side to stop chocking the EPL.
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