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02-24-2008 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by raju
Cant see Spurs in Rome visiting the Pope, They`re Jewish not Catholic.

Unless their motives were sinister of course. Ah i see it now, so they`ve turned up armed to the teeth to do the Pope over and He`s run them back to North London? Yeah Catholics are Badass.

Its

The ****ty man united etc. etc
(as they historically have a large Catholic following)


Bjorn, pretty insightful stuff. Is your job somehow football related? Journalist maybe?
I wish. I think...
I did have ideas of covering sports for a while and still do to some extent but hasn't worked out that way.
I've played obviously but also coached some youth teams which was very eye opening to just how much a coach can influence everything.
I've just been a huge sports fan since I was a kid, the amount I follow including some very obscure ones are scary and definitely not recommended, but when it comes to football, and I'm not sure why exactly, I don't really follow it as closely as I have in past years.

Actually I really feel out of touch sometimes but at least I still have my memory of previous years.
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02-24-2008 , 03:06 PM
I see Eduardo's injury is still talked about. So here is one more fact I think many of you don't know. Karma is a bitch. Oh, wait, you know that.

2 years ago during a training session of Dinamo Zagreb (Eduardo's club before moving to Arsenal) in a similar tackle Eduardo broke the same bone (fibia) of his fellow player Marijan Buljat. Marijan was a hot prospect, with his first cap in Croatia's national team played a short time before the injury. 2 years later, he still can't find his old form and is struggling to get into starting eleven for Dinamo.

Hopefully Eduardo won't take such a long time to return to the same level as before the injury.
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02-24-2008 , 04:32 PM
In case anyone is curious, I saw a brief snipet on an Arsenal board about the extent of his injury. This was from the Croatian NT doctor:

"It's an open sprained ankle injury, with the fibula being broken and the tibia intact. The greatest injuries were to the ligaments in Eduardo's ankle. (...) The doctor that performed the surgery was very pleased. A full reconstruction had been done and he's optimistic about Eduardo's return. (...) Eduardo says he's not in pain and will continue rehabilitation in London. He'll start physical therapy in a month."
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02-24-2008 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Disturbance
Yep, this one is even worse:

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Good luck to Eduardo in his recovery, that is a very nasty injury.
yea, that looks about as bad as dave busst's broken leg. hopefully he'll be able to lead a normal life when he recovers
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02-24-2008 , 05:08 PM
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02-24-2008 , 05:50 PM
Thank you Renaissance!
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02-24-2008 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kolotoure
Post George Graham Arsenal weren't very good
yes, that long 18 months between Graham and Wenger must've been awful
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02-25-2008 , 03:45 AM
Even before this weekend, I kept getting a feeling that things were/are slipping away for Arsenal. Mostly it has to do with the keeper situation. As I have posted a number of times before, I have never been sold on Almunia, but nevertheless, he has played competently while the petulent Jens was riding the bench.

Yet, the question was always there about whether Almunia has the chops to be a big-game keeper. I seriously doubt he does. More to the point, as the tension builds, he seems to keep getting strange injuries. Perhaps the pressure is getting to him? In any event, if Wenger has decided that he is sticking with Almunia, he should have shipped out Lehman at any price to remove the distraction. As it stands, we have two keeper problems and no answer.

I have no quarrel with the future direction of the club, but things were really shaping nicely for this season (and probably about one-year ahead of expectations). Once it became evident that the team was finding its form much sooner than expected, the keeper situation should have been addressed.
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02-25-2008 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Muflon
I see Eduardo's injury is still talked about. So here is one more fact I think many of you don't know. Karma is a bitch. Oh, wait, you know that.

2 years ago during a training session of Dinamo Zagreb (Eduardo's club before moving to Arsenal) in a similar tackle Eduardo broke the same bone (fibia) of his fellow player Marijan Buljat. Marijan was a hot prospect, with his first cap in Croatia's national team played a short time before the injury. 2 years later, he still can't find his old form and is struggling to get into starting eleven for Dinamo.

Hopefully Eduardo won't take such a long time to return to the same level as before the injury.
Muflon: Are you Slovenian? Did you ever play at Paradise Poker under "Muflon?"

Anyhow, I feel bad for Edu, but its a danger of the game. Whether its a cost of doing business, or something else, the elite teams should always have it in the back of their mind that lesser talented clubs are 1) possibly going to try to slow things down with contact; and 2) challenges from less-talented competitors are not going to be as precise as one would hope. That should factor into the game plan.

Of course, a cheap-shot is a cheap-shot, and those have no place in the game, but physical play is a different animal.

With that being said, physicality is just as much a part of the English game as speed, and it should remain so. In many sports there is a dynamic between styles of strength and speed; force and finesse; boxing and punching.

However, to keep that balance (and I agree with others) the officating must be more consistant.
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02-25-2008 , 04:06 AM
Yes Almunia should have saved the freekick but we should have scored 5 and had a penalty
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02-25-2008 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kolotoure
Yes Almunia should have saved the freekick but we should have scored 5 and had a penalty
Agreed, but again, I have been adressing this all year long. Whether he stops that shot, or not, the situation is bad with him looking over his shoulder all the time with Lehman on the bench.

I mean, this guy had to leave practice because of a ghost in his house; how can he be expected to deal with the ghost of Jens?
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02-25-2008 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Oski
Agreed, but again, I have been adressing this all year long. Whether he stops that shot, or not, the situation is bad with him looking over his shoulder all the time with Lehman on the bench.

I mean, this guy had to leave practice because of a ghost in his house; how can he be expected to deal with the ghost of Jens?
Hahaha... really? I missed that. I know a lot of footballers are superstitious (don't touch the cup etc) but this is of a different order.

Anyways, get a ****ing grip Arse - I can't have Manure winning again.
Ok? Ok.
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02-25-2008 , 12:05 PM
saw a replay of the penalty call. Really disapointing call, and I think the ref botched it. Yet another reason they need replay.
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02-25-2008 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRenaissance
Hahaha... really? I missed that. I know a lot of footballers are superstitious (don't touch the cup etc) but this is of a different order.

Anyways, get a ****ing grip Arse - I can't have Manure winning again.
Ok? Ok.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

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Arsenal goalkeeper says his house is haunted by the ghost of a monk
Last updated at 12:16pm on 19th February 2008

Club boss Arsene Wenger has given the 30-year-old Spaniard permission to go home at lunchtime so that his wife Ana is not alone in their house in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire.

The home is believed to have been built on the site of Leavesden Hospital, a mental asylum that shut in the Nineties.

Almunia said Ana had seen the ghost, and on other occasions he had heard chains rattling and seen stereos turning on at full volume.

He said: "Once my wife saw this monk-like figure with a candle in his hand at the end of our bed. I didn't see him but I was s*** scared."
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02-25-2008 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
saw a replay of the penalty call. Really disapointing call, and I think the ref botched it. Yet another reason they need replay.
meh. clichy deserved teh penalty for being so daft.
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02-25-2008 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
saw a replay of the penalty call. Really disapointing call, and I think the ref botched it. Yet another reason they need replay.
You can't possibly be in favor of replaying every penalty situation... that is right above TV timeouts, shot clocks, and a penalty box on my list of things that the EPL, FA, FIFA or whoever should implement to "improve" the game.

The goal line sensor they have tested in a few games seems like a good idea but I think we should leave the game alone for the most part. Replay would suck the life out of football.
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02-25-2008 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjørn
Ah I actually remember some good performances from Sunderland against Man Utd, in the early 90s I guess it was.
I remember Gray was the manager. I think they even won once.
We gave them a good game in the Cup around that time maybe the I managed to get the last ticket for that game, think Giggs popped up and scored the winner very late on. Think we beat Arsenal around that time as well played them twice in a week Berkamp totally destroyed us that night. In fact her eis the goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I64PGPOZcQ

Those were the days I was stood in the bit of stand under where the camera was, do miss those olden days of standing and Roker Park.

One of my favourite memorable moments at the ground, I was almost close enough to be one of the ones pushing him back on the field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU8Lwixj6mk
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02-25-2008 , 07:02 PM
meh, everton won
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02-25-2008 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Topnoevili
You can't possibly be in favor of replaying every penalty situation... that is right above TV timeouts, shot clocks, and a penalty box on my list of things that the EPL, FA, FIFA or whoever should implement to "improve" the game.

I don't see how tv timeouts, shot clocks, or penalty boxes are even remotely the same thing as reviewing penalties that are called. The game already stops for christ sake and the fourth official can easily review it in a matter of 15 seconds or so.
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02-25-2008 , 08:10 PM
2-0. Liverpool your having a laf
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02-25-2008 , 08:14 PM
Only 5 off chelsea now and there game in hand is against spurs they could certainly drop points
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02-26-2008 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Disturbance
LOL, been on the beer have you?
Yes

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Originally Posted by Melchiades
Haha.
Not haha at all, I was listening to FiveLive last night where they suggested the very same thing. Whinger is by far and away the worst manager for seeing on field incidents if his players are the culprits, yet remarkably on this occassion saw things perfectly. Also, magnanimous is not exactly a term he's familiar with. They more or less said the apology came from higher up at Arsenal. I believe that totally.

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Originally Posted by THEOSU
davey,

...........unfortunately, the refereeing is inconsistent to the point that a red is a yellow is a yellow is a red. or in the case of some of the arsenal players last week, is nothing at all.......
of course, it could be worse. the refereeing could be as it is in spain or italy, where it's downright dreadful.
To be fair, there are currently no worse referees in Europe than the English, the best - Poll/Durkin - have been pensioned off. A sign of the times is that probably the best two now are Webb and Rennie, who were lauighed at (and Rennie demoted) in recent seasons. The Spanish refs are probably the best in Europe at this time, and the Italians have always been solid. I used to think Scottish refs were poor, but at the moment I'd rather have Mike McCurry than any single ref in the EPL, they've become so bad.
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02-26-2008 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaSaltCracka
THEOSU, perhaps I am being overbearing/obnoxious, but I am also frustrated. I don't see how any team can have a strategy of kicking another team to stop free flowing action. I mean, is a hard tackle with the studs up unsportsmanlike or violent conduct/serious foul play?
Instead of listening to Whinger, name me one team that uses this tactic?

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Originally Posted by Bjørn
This is the typical english ignorance...............................The typical match between a top team in England and a lesser team is often the perfect example of how in the modern game the mythical english team spirit won't take you very far when it's combined with complete tactical ineptitude, poor discipline and misguided physical play.
It really is pathetic how easy the top teams in England have had it for many years now and in large part it's down to the attitude, and all the flaws that come with it, displayed in your post.
As I'm not English I'll counter. The reason, that the top 3, and Liverpool, have been so dominant is due to one thing - money, and the fact that they have bought success. The richest clubs in the world are English, they have simply been able to outspend their domestic counterparts, and this has caused the imbalance more than any other factor.

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People say it is impossible to break into the top 4. Arsenal were a mid-table team pre-wenger
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02-26-2008 , 08:34 AM
I know Wenger will never admit seeing anything wrong that an Arsenal player does. I know that makes him look like a twat to opposition fans, but I don't care. He does it for a reason. he does what he thinks is best for Arsenal, not what makes him look good in the eyes of pundits and opposition fans.

To suggest Wenger retracted his statements because of solicitors or higher ups telling him what to do is still "Haha". Wenger pretty much does what he wants, no higher ups at Arsenal has the balls to tell him what to do. For better or worse. If he retracted his statement it was because after calming down on the bus back and hearing Taylor went to see Edu at the hospital he realized he was out of line in his "heat of the moment"-comment. It's not like he hasn't appeared in front of an FA panel plenty of times for opening his mouth.

Using the choice of words as proof is just silly. First of all his English is excellent, he is fluent in French, Alsatian and German. He also speaks some Italian, Spanish and Japanese. And who's to say he doesn't get advice from PR men after he decides he is gonna say something?

About referees, unfortunately the English ones are pretty gash. Always feel we have better refs in the CL. If that is because the best of the best refs CL, or if furrin refs are generally better I don't know.
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02-26-2008 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kolotoure
Post George Graham Arsenal weren't very good
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yes, that long 18 months between Graham and Wenger must've been awful
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