I like that option better than my youth hockey tourneys. If OT ended in a tie it was most shots on goal in the OT period.

Look forward to the debates over the home statisticians recording of what counts as a shot

None of it would be a problem with 3-2-1-0 as a point system.

The worst suggestion is going to straight W-L tho, which usually seems to get suggested because it's the MANLY thing to do. Of course, the same people hate ties, so you'd end up with a system that rewards OT wins the same as regulation ones (the current system kind of already does, but not quite because you don't hurt the opponent as much by beating them in OT+)

Stützle GOATing in Stockholm, not entirely sure that pass was on purpose tho

now that would be fun



i'd be all about shootouts to end it after OT if penalty shots were called more frequently in games - i can't even think of the last time i saw a penalty shot taken during regulation time because then they'd be more of an extension of something you actually find in the game


i do love the 3 on 3 ot though and there's a lot of games which I'd otherwise have no interest in watching that I do switch to in the final minute because they are pulling goalies or playing 3 on 3 and then there's something new to the game

don't see any need for a shot clock in it as the entire maintain possession stuff leads to really interesting things and you see a lot of set plays happen now which can't happen when the ice is clogged up with 10 skaters

this was just beautiful to watch


also, loving how good the canucks look this year - i actually bet their under this season (just a bad line no real insights) - whoopsies on that

but i love watching them, have said for years that petterson is my favorite player to watch and it's been really cool seeing him fill out from 161 to current 176

last year he improved his defense enough to start playing on the pk line - which is insane given how as a rookie his coach basically never wanted him taking a defensive zone shift

and it seems like hughes elevating as well and boeser really rebounding strongly (i thought his elite potential was kaput after last year) so it's just really fun watching them play

even tyler myers looks good again and hronek and cole look like huge upgrades - oel looks good again in fla so kind of lol they'll now be paying him 2+ million a year for the rest of the decade

Can someone explain to me why ties would ever be good? I hate being a Ameri-tard ever, but F going to a game that ended in a tie. There would never be a playoff tie, why should there ever be any other? I know not everyone loves 3-3 then shootout, but, they’re both exciting as regular season conventions and far superior than having ties. So if someone could make a compelling case for a tie, I’d love to hear it.

nhl also just releaded an nft line, months after the entire market crumbled bc i guess even the thickest dolts in the world realized they're a literally worthless scam


it's honestly incredible how dumb and bad these idiots are at their jobs. easier to believe that they're trying to fail

I don't mind the system as is, so it's really not a passionate argument for ties- the logical case would be that in the context of a regular season, teams' objectives aren't really to beat any given opponent at hand, but in the grand scheme to collect more points over the entire season. During a lot of games (inter-conference), teams aren't even competing for the same things. So if you care less about the result on the day, and more about each game being just one part of 82 in a season, a tie is just as valid a result as any.

I think the only people who really legitimately want ties back are the ones who really hate the "gimmicks" of 3v3 and shootouts tho. And there's probably a decent chance they'd get tired of them fast if they were brought back.

I will say that European football leagues, ties serve a real purpose and within their context, the argument I made to start is much easier to see. When a title contender plays a bottom feeder (or anyone, really) and they draw, it's a lost two points that really hurt in the final standings. It'd be pretty awful for the competition if there was a penalty shootout at the end of each game that would basically give the title contender a do-over to get the win after all. The obvious differences to American leagues are the gulfs in team quality and that the league table actually matters.

yeah 3-2-1-0 point system would solve a lot of their problems, i hope someone can convince them of this

might as well keep shootouts. i think they're boring and lame, and usually don't watch them, but i can see why some ppl like them. they might need to add a 30-second shot clock or something for overtime though. these teams who skate around with the puck doing nothing for like 3 minutes are woat, and there's not much you can do about it defensively with all that open ice

Lmao Ottawa

pretty sure this is not true and pettersson has always been good defensively. the main reason he didn't pk before is that it's generally a horrible use of your best players' energy, even if they are good at it, as he is.


hughes probably has been a little improved, but he's also always been great. the main difference is that they added hronek, who he mostly has played with, and hughes hasn't had a non-terrible partner since tanev went to calgary. going from playing with ahl crap to good nhlers is a helluva thing

not sure how much better boeser has been, probably a little, but probably more about opportunity. getting time on pp1 again, and playing with better guys at evens. he also went through a bunch of stuff the last couple years, a lot of injuries, and his dad died etc. seems like things are going better for him these days, which is cool. seems like a legit good guy


but myers still sucks (the numbers might be there, if so, it's just a short-term pdo mirage type thing), guessing he'd be long gone if anyone wanted him, but they don't. hope they dump him asap so he doesn't kill them in the playoffs. cole idk, haven't been paying close enough attention tbh. he's possibly helping the team just though being a legit nhler, unlike many of the guys they've been running out there the last few years.

and that's kind of the story throughout the team, they've added a bunch of legit pros who actually belong on the ice. pius suter looks like a nice 3c, casey desmith looks like a legit backup goalie, and so on. more actual nhl depth behind their star players.

that, and luck. they've been by far the luckiest team in the league so far, and that'll probably continue for another couple months as their schedule looks super soft for a bit. not sure if they're legit or not, but i'm guessing they'll make more moves before the deadline to shore up the team. would be fun to see them go a couple rounds in the playoffs

3-3 is great lots of action. What I don't like if its a penalty make it 3-2 . No shootouts play 10 minutes

I agree also 3 points regulation win

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I've played on 3v2 PPs in Floorball and it sucks major ass. You can't really put anyone in front of the net, the D try to cover the one timer options on each side and in the end it comes down to the point guy beating the goalie clean. It's really not that interesting.

i think you made some solid points that despite not bringing in any big names while losing horvat, they did replace a bunch of AHL level talent with legit NHL players - even rafferty looks good out there

and i did forget that when petterson came up it was when the gm had the "have the most expensive 3rd and 4th lines in all of the nhl because those will be your defensive specialists" mentality which in hindsight, if you're doing is a very good reason to save your top two lines for offensive zone starts and powerplays

but 100% petterson is a different player now - he's now big enough to be able to use his size and will actively bang it up when necessary whereas in the past he'd just skate a button hook instead. this was a guy who was forbidden from joining in on frays after the whistle by his coach and there's even videos of him skating towards one, hearing his coach yell at him to stay out and then he turns around and coast back to the bench while 9 other guys are all putting each other in headlocks by the net - so adding those 15 pounds has been huge in that it allows him to physically contest stuff he either couldn't physically contest or wasn't allowed to contest

don't get me wrong, you can search the thread for my posts on him - i have at least a dozen praising him and talking about how fun he is to watch, but to me he's very much gone from a one dimensional player with great stick handling and a world class shot to someone who is a legit two way player

idk if myers still sucks or not, but in that game he looked good, he used his body to shut down a few odd man rushes before they ever developed and appeared to play very strong lockdown defense

and i wouldn't worry about myers being gone by the end of the year - if they keep winning and decide to add some players at the deadline he will 100% be part of any outgoing package - he makes 6 million and is in the final year his deal so he's an easy piece to unload to make the cap work

You Muricans I tell ya! :P

I can go with all this and I was thinking, just make overtime longer and get rid of shootouts. As long as they don't make it like NBA endgame where it takes forever and sounds like they are shooting that idea down thankfully.

he won the calder. his first 2 seasons were better than the following 2, at least partly due to injuries. i've watched like 95-99% of his nhl games, he was great from the start, very strong both ways, his frame is irrelevant. datsyuk was a rail too, you can still be strong on the puck, and pettersson always has been. technique is far more important. but yeah it probably helps that he's getting stronger, that's just a natural thing with players coming in at 19 or whatever

and i'm not seeing anything in the stats that describes what you're talking about. shots, corsi, fenwick, goals, whatever against all extremely consistent, which is impressive given how bad the team was when he started
https://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...petteel01.html


i don't think this is true, but regardless, it doesn't matter. scrumming it up after the whistle is stupid and pointless. he's smart and would rather be on the powerplay than trying to prove anything to anyone

i couldn't find it but there used to a compilation video calling pettersson a bish (i disagreed with that, he was clearly instructed to avoid those) which showed him skating away from scuffles and a few times you can see his coach yelling for him to come to the bench or teammates pushing him back to safety

i think it was from his rookie year where they obviously wanted to protect the guy given how skinny he was and that he legit can be a top 5 player in the league

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Nylander gon get paid

Dallas rocketed up the standings I see, CowboyCold.

I just got my Leafs wear including a Nylander Jersey and possibly might be going to a game in the future. Can't see how they keep him but they are still talking, crazy idea from Steve Dangle is they take a hit for a year and Tavares is up and he takes less money while Nylander gets more, basically swapping contracts.

How do you do that?

saw wpg -560 and up by two so hit it hard

then realize the window was frozen, refresh it and see they are only up one and in midst of killing a penalty



whoopsies, going to be expensive if this one loses, quite a sweat here

Never in doubt.

Does Buffalo fire their coach now?