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10-30-2023 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
anyone got screenshots of "the incident"? like the body positioning before it happened and stuff, not the guy dying.
a more detailed play by play is Johnson is skating with the puck into the offensive zone and the attacker (Matt Petgrave) sort of collides with one of Johnson's teammates nearby and then flails his body around and throws his leg up which cuts right across Johnson's throat. it is pretty bang-bang. The hit itself isn't graphic, just the immediate aftermath.

I 100% believe it was an intentional leg flail and not an accident. the only question was if Petgrave was trying to embellish an interference penalty (seems to be the consensus from what I've read) or if he was actually aiming for Johnson. idk if Petgrave is a known thug or had a beef with Johnson before this happened.

the sad thing is that there is absolutely nothing Johnson could have done to avoid the contact. Nothing.

I wonder if the NHL will look to implement mandatory safety measures going forward so nothing like this could ever happen? Or if players will be more prone to wearing neck guards now? Especially if some had ever considered it previously. You've made it to the NHL, who cares if someone calls u a p**sy now? Goalies started wearing bigger masks to avoid getting hit in the throat pucks iirc. otoh, I would like to think what Petgrave did was something only a complete idiot amateur could do body-control wise and nothing a NHL player would do.
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10-30-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
a more detailed play by play is Johnson is skating with the puck into the offensive zone and the attacker (Matt Petgrave) sort of collides with one of Johnson's teammates nearby and then flails his body around and throws his leg up which cuts right across Johnson's throat. it is pretty bang-bang. The hit itself isn't graphic, just the immediate aftermath.

I 100% believe it was an intentional leg flail and not an accident. the only question was if Petgrave was trying to embellish an interference penalty (seems to be the consensus from what I've read) or if he was actually aiming for Johnson. idk if Petgrave is a known thug or had a beef with Johnson before this happened.

the sad thing is that there is absolutely nothing Johnson could have done to avoid the contact. Nothing.
thanks. yeah i saw some ppl defending the guy saying that he got knocked off balance and it was a total accident, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was flailing around like an idiot for no reason and the worst outcome happened


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I wonder if the NHL will look to implement mandatory safety measures going forward so nothing like this could ever happen? Or if players will be more prone to wearing neck guards now? Especially if some had ever considered it previously. You've made it to the NHL, who cares if someone calls u a p**sy now? Goalies started wearing bigger masks to avoid getting hit in the throat pucks iirc. otoh, I would like to think what Petgrave did was something only a complete idiot amateur could do body-control wise and nothing a NHL player would do.
kind of doubt that the nhl will mandate neckguards, but you never know i guess. think it was mandated every year i played, and i never had a problem. morans complain that they're uncomfortable or make you too hot or whatever, but ppl just love to complain about any change, and especially safety measures
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10-30-2023 , 09:58 PM
I don’t know if they had a confrontation earlier or what but, from their position, the leg in the air is pretty unnatural and does look intentional. Embellishment didn’t occur to me though because it kind of looks like he would’ve known Johnson was there.
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10-30-2023 , 10:31 PM
Everyone had Boston starting 8-0-1, right?
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10-30-2023 , 10:50 PM
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Everyone had Boston starting 8-0-1, right?
i can't believe it - i thought with bergeron gone that was it

he was the core as far as i saw it as arguably one of the best defensive players in the league

remember watching an all star game and the announcers repeatedly poked fun at him because he was literally the only person on the ice who was backchecking and playing as if the game mattered

so him retiring really gutted their defense, which was the foundation of why they were so good - and then they lost a bunch of good players like bertuzzi and hall in free agency and krecj to a second retirement didn't really replace them but rather elevated some 4th liners - jvr has been washed for a while but it'll be interesting to see if playing on a good team can revive him

i'm still upset with bergeron for retiring

they had something magical last year and feel like they could have been the same again this year
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10-30-2023 , 11:34 PM
The video quality of the incident is so bad that you can just watch up until the contact and pause it right as contact happens and won't have to watch any of the horrible stuff. If we tried to do a still shot of Petgrave's body position then it would just look like a jumble of pixels.
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10-30-2023 , 11:38 PM
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This version shows the incident with no blood and none of the aftermath, but obv don't click if you don't want to see any of the incident at all.

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10-31-2023 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 702guy
a more detailed play by play is Johnson is skating with the puck into the offensive zone and the attacker (Matt Petgrave) sort of collides with one of Johnson's teammates nearby and then flails his body around and throws his leg up which cuts right across Johnson's throat. it is pretty bang-bang. The hit itself isn't graphic, just the immediate aftermath.

I 100% believe it was an intentional leg flail and not an accident. the only question was if Petgrave was trying to embellish an interference penalty (seems to be the consensus from what I've read) or if he was actually aiming for Johnson. idk if Petgrave is a known thug or had a beef with Johnson before this happened.
I understand dragging when someone cuts behind you, but that didn't happen here. If anything Petgrave took that line.

I won't discount that he's an idiot, but you don't over pursue when you have help keeping the puck on the outside.
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11-01-2023 , 06:41 PM
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The WHL announced today the adoption of mandatory neck guard protection for all players, effective Friday, November 3.
huh, wonder what thats about


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This version shows the incident with no blood and none of the aftermath, but obv don't click if you don't want to see any of the incident at all.
thanks.

yeah that's bizarre, really don't understand wtf he's doing if it's a legit accident. looks more like he got tripped up and was like well i know the puck carrier is behind me, so i'll just kick him because i'll 1000% get away with it. not that he meant to kill the guy or anything, but that's also why you don't do dumb **** like swing your skates or stick around like an *******
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11-02-2023 , 04:44 PM
Toronto and Boston tonight, oh dear. Samsonov possibly starting tonight, OH DEAR!
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11-02-2023 , 05:37 PM
Have a look at who the Bruins will trot out on defense, way scarier than Samsonov in goal

Anyway hot Pierre summer is finally over, didn't think the league would actually dock the Sens a 1st rounder over the whole Dadonov deal.

Sabres beat the Flyers 5-2 with 15 SOG last night, don't see that every day. Only one ENG!
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11-02-2023 , 07:07 PM
oh man i forgot about the thing that made that fall apart was that the sens never mentioned that to vgk
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11-02-2023 , 08:02 PM
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Anyway hot Pierre summer is finally over, didn't think the league would actually dock the Sens a 1st rounder over the whole Dadonov deal.
did they explain what happened there? because all i saw was them announcing this thing and then saying no more questions, we're never talking about this again


based on the punishment it seems they're saying that the sens lied, because like, isn't that info on capfriendly and stuff? it also wasn't in any of the paperwork? no one ever mentioned the no-trade list, even dadonov or the agent? bizarre
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11-02-2023 , 08:45 PM
"They screwed up but we won't tell you how" seems to be the go to move when it comes to Sens punishment

Apparently the NHL got a like 100 page review or something absurd. Probably not published

From some write up on this just before the verdict came down, it seems like Vegas wasn't on Dadonov's no trade list, thus he or his agent didn't mention anything. Sens apparently acted like he didn't turn in a list at all. Why they decided to do that I don't know. So Vegas ended up thinking he didn't do his part to get no trade protection and trade him whereever.

Seems like this could all be avoided by not managing NTCs via players writing down teams on a cocktail napkin
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11-02-2023 , 08:49 PM
WEEEEEEEEEEEE
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11-02-2023 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
"They screwed up but we won't tell you how" seems to be the go to move when it comes to Sens punishment

thats just the nhl in general, everything dies in gary's office. transparency of any kind? **** you
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11-02-2023 , 09:27 PM
hearing reports that the presence of ryan reaves failed to prevent timmy liljegren from being murdered or whatever, pretty shocked over here
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11-02-2023 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
didn't think the league would actually dock the Sens a 1st rounder over the whole Dadonov deal.
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sens got off easy for their blatant fraud imo

vgk should have gotten the first round pick OTT forfeited plus made OTT permanently forfeit $30 million in cap space which would be donated to vgk

just one man's unbiased opinion
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11-02-2023 , 10:53 PM
72off,

this season could u ever have imagined the canucks being a -230 road favorite?


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...and they're leading 2-0 four minutes into the game. LOL sharks

Last edited by 702guy; 11-02-2023 at 11:03 PM. Reason: make that 3-0 1st period
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11-02-2023 , 11:48 PM
now 5-0 with 34 minutes to go


no, not really. more about how ****ing bad the chokez are tho lol

do they even have any good prospects? this is dreadful
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11-03-2023 , 12:24 AM
8-0 after 2 lol


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Defensemen leaders:

Goals — Quinn Hughes (4)
Assists — Quinn Hughes (11)
Points — Quinn Hughes (15)
+/- — Quinn Hughes (+12)
EVG — Quinn Hughes (3)
EVP — Quinn Hughes (9)
still can't believe that the wangz took zadina over him, but i guess it was tough to scout him all the way over at ... the university of michigan
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11-03-2023 , 12:38 AM
Sharks are all f*cked up
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11-03-2023 , 01:35 AM
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Sharks 6 even-strength goals are the fewest in NHL history through the first 10 games of a season
Their -34 goal differential is the NHL's worst through 10 games since the expansion 1992-93 Senators (-36)
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thru 10 GP

1974-75 Capitals: 30% GF% at 5v5
2023-24 Sharks: 17% GF% at 5v5

the 0-10-0 1943-44 Rangers had a 32% GF%
the 2-8-0 2015-16 Jackets had a 31% GF%

Think it's fair to call this by far the worst start in NHL history

it's real bad
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11-03-2023 , 08:18 AM
Let’s go shaaaaaaa-aaaaaaarks
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11-03-2023 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
hearing reports that the presence of ryan reaves failed to prevent timmy liljegren from being murdered or whatever, pretty shocked over here
Nothing has changed and he is pretty much a waste of a space currently. I even forgot he was even on our team for some days,lol.

That was the best outcome last night could have hoped for.
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