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12-29-2017 , 06:05 PM

#3451

Noze

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Even money bet, you take the Rams/Saints and I'll take the rest of the NFC.

lol I'm probably taking the worst of it, too.

I excluded the seahawks for a reason, but **** it Im not opposed to a friendly hundo on this if you want.

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12-29-2017 , 06:21 PM

#3452

nath

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

Landry is super slow, but he didn't get magically slower this season, & he averaged 12.1 ypc last season with Tannehill.

His efficiency is fine sans Cutler, & he's a perfectly adequate player. But yeah, he's most likely getting overpaid.

Eh, but it's literally the same role-- feed him high-volume short targets as the focal point of the offense. He wasn't particularly efficient before this year, either.

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Originally Posted by Isidiop

more a case of if your rb has 20 second half touches you are more likely to win

But the stat just said when the Dolphins' running back gets more touches, they lose.

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Jets extending Bowels and their GM another two years...

I have no idea if Bowles is any good or not but I'm fairly certain Mike Maccagnan isn't

He's going to trade up for Josh Allen if Elway doesn't beat him to it

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12-29-2017 , 06:23 PM

#3453

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Lovie Smith went from 2-14 to 6-10 when he got Jameis, and got fired because the Bucs were scared of losing Dirk Koetter, who they wanted to keep to develop Jameis.

Two years later, the Bucs are 4-11, and how much has Jameis developed? Naturally, Koetter gets another year.

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12-29-2017 , 06:41 PM

#3454

Tom Ames

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back

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12-29-2017 , 06:44 PM

#3455

bazooka87

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Originally Posted by BillNye

Packers signing D. Adams $14mm per season multi year deal. Paid like a top 5 WR.

****ing Tavon Austin man. Glad we kept him, and he's been good this season, but **** me that's a lot of money.

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12-29-2017 , 07:33 PM

#3456

SuperUberBob

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****ing Giants signing David Gettleman. Guy chased away Steve Smith. For some reason, I expect him to do it to OBJ.

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12-29-2017 , 07:55 PM

#3457

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

****ing Giants signing David Gettleman. Guy chased away Steve Smith. For some reason, I expect him to do it to OBJ.

Oh no. Hopefully he will sign OBJ to a bazillion dollar contract ASAP because diva wide receivers make or break a team.

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12-29-2017 , 08:23 PM

#3458

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

4/$58m

Hmm...pending guarantee details...lol.

Being lazy, who are the other FA WRs this year?

Beckham, Evans etc have the 5th year option but will probably sign this OS. Can’t remember who the others are?

Edit:Sammy Watkins, Brandin Cooks,

They’ll be licking their lips after this

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12-29-2017 , 08:30 PM

#3459

JMurder3

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Originally Posted by feel wrath

Also being lazy...

Player	Pos	Age	Team	2017 AAV	Status
Terrelle Pryor	WR	28	WAS	$6,000,000	UFA
Mike Wallace	WR	31	BAL	$5,750,000	UFA
Sammy Watkins	WR	24	LA	$4,983,901	UFA
Eric Decker	WR	30	TEN	$4,000,000	UFA
Harry Douglas	WR	32	TEN	$3,750,000	UFA
Taylor Gabriel	WR	26	ATL	$2,746,000	UFA
Dontrelle Inman	WR	28	CHI	$2,746,000	UFA
Kamar Aiken	WR	28	IND	$2,600,000	UFA
Kendall Wright	WR	28	CHI	$2,000,000	UFA
Jaron Brown	WR	27	ARI	$1,910,000	UFA
Andre Roberts	WR	29	ATL	$1,800,000	UFA
Matthew Slater	WR	32	NE	$1,800,000	UFA
Albert Wilson	WR	25	KC	$1,797,000	UFA
Danny Amendola	WR	32	NE	$1,700,000	UFA
Charles Johnson	WR	28	CAR	$1,675,000	UFA
Michael Floyd	WR	28	MIN	$1,410,000	UFA
Marqise Lee	WR	26	JAC	$1,293,506	UFA
Jordan Matthews	WR	25	BUF	$1,237,317	UFA
Michael Campanaro	WR	26	BAL	$1,200,000	UFA
Paul Richardson	WR	25	SEA	$1,178,209	UFA
Brice Butler	WR	27	DAL	$1,100,000	UFA

PLAYER	POS.	AGE	FROM	2018 TENDER	STATUS
TJ Jones	WR	25	DET	$690,000	RFA
Jeremy Butler	WR	26	BUF	$625,000	RFA
Bruce Ellington	WR	26	HOU	$615,000	RFA
Isaiah Burse	WR	26	LAC	$615,000	RFA
Bennie Fowler	WR	26	DEN	$615,000	RFA
Adam Humphries	WR	24	TB	$615,000	RFA
Willie Snead	WR	25	NO	$615,000	RFA
Geremy Davis	WR	25	LAC	$615,000	RFA
Freddie Martino	WR	26	TB	$615,000	RFA
Bradley Marquez	WR	25	DET	$615,000	RFA
Jaelen Strong	WR	23	JAC	$615,000	RFA
Chris Matthews	WR	28	BAL	$607,500	RFA
Cameron Meredith	WR	25	CHI	$527,000	RFA
Eli Rogers	WR	25	PIT	$526,667	RFA
Quincy Enunwa	WR	25	NYJ	$525,000	RFA
Tyrell Williams	WR	25	LAC	$525,000	RFA
Brandon Coleman	WR	25	NO	$510,000	RFA

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12-29-2017 , 09:24 PM

#3460

nath

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I thought Cooks' 5th-year option was activated.

Allen Robinson and Marqise Lee should be free agents as well. John Brown too. Every WR drafted in 2014 who wasn't a first-round pick whose fifth-year option was exercised should be a free agent, unless they already came to an extension.

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12-29-2017 , 09:31 PM

#3461

JMurder3

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Originally Posted by nath

Yeah, that list came from Spotrac, but definitely seems incomplete.

Cooks did have his 5th year option activated.

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12-29-2017 , 09:57 PM

#3462

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Most of those 5th year players will sign extensions though.

My question was clumsily put - I was more interested in which big WR deals will get signed this offseason and what the impact of Adams’ deal will have on them

Jordy Nelson will need to take a major haircut now that Adams has signed - has he being injured this year? You’d expect his numbers to drop without ARog but he’s only got about 500 yards iirc

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12-29-2017 , 10:00 PM

#3463

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Martavis Bryant will be interesting to watch - somebody might overpay for him

Edit - ****, forgot he’d lost a year

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12-29-2017 , 10:04 PM

#3464

nath

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Yeah, Jordy Nelson has less than 500 yards and is going to be 33 next year, he'll have to take a massive pay cut. It's also possible he's just toast.

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12-29-2017 , 10:20 PM

#3465

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oh wow Josh Gordon is only ERFA, which means the browns only have to offer him the minimum and it's take it or leave the league. Jeez. This is a pay cut, he won't even get one million//year.

In fact, if the Browns do tender him, he can't be unrestricted till 2020. Holy ****.

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12-29-2017 , 10:30 PM

#3466

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Originally Posted by BillNye

Packers signing D. Adams $14mm per season multi year deal. Paid like a top 5 WR.

This is what the packers do, resign their own guys. Adams was terrible heading into this year, I wouldn't have done it so I'm all for it.

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12-29-2017 , 11:46 PM

#3467

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Originally Posted by nath

Yeah, Jordy Nelson has less than 500 yards and is going to be 33 next year, he'll have to take a massive pay cut. It's also possible he's just toast.

He's probably toast, it's just that timing is so weird. He was doing just fine with Rodgers at QB and then he disappeared. Didn't do well in the one game Rodgers was back (but it was just one game). If he resigns with Packers next year, I would not be surprised if he were back over 1000 yds receiving.

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12-30-2017 , 01:05 AM

#3468

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Best white receiver of the past 10 years?

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12-30-2017 , 01:08 AM

#3469

nath

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

Yeah, that's the weird thing. Even if his performance with Rodgers was a better indicator of his real talent level this year, his age means you're still taking a big risk if you pay him a lot for next year.

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Originally Posted by feel wrath

Best white receiver of the past 10 years?

I would think so. Who even competes, Edelman? His peak certainly wasn't as high.

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12-30-2017 , 01:10 AM

#3470

JMurder3

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Gronk

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12-30-2017 , 01:16 AM

#3471

ggbman1

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Davante Adams has been pretty damn good 3 of his 4 years in the league, seems like some people only remember 2015. The problem is what they are paying Jordy and Cobb, not what they are gonna pay Adams. (Although the concussion history is starting to get scary)

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12-30-2017 , 01:20 AM

#3472

JMurder3

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885 yards on 117 targets doesn't really move the needle for me.

His best year was 997 on 121 last year with ARod throwing to him. He just catches lots of TDs. Variance & such.

Also, his rookie year was 446 & 3 TDs on 66 targets. Hard to consider that "pretty damn good".

Cutting Cobb would cost like $3.2m & Jordy $2.3m, so they're not really obligated to pay them their full salaries ($12.8m & $12.6m respectively).

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12-30-2017 , 01:25 AM

#3473

Heroball

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Mankato Moss better than Jordy

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12-30-2017 , 01:46 AM

#3474

tabbaker

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Adams has been the best WR on the Packers the last two years. Concussion history is the only concern.

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12-30-2017 , 01:51 AM

#3475

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Originally Posted by nath

Welker has to come into consideration ahead of Edelman I’d have thought. he had 4 or 5 really excellent seasons. Not the outside/game breaking threat of Jordy, so I’d definitely have Jordy ahead of him still

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