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12-26-2017 , 06:22 PM
love the Andy Reid as Santa stuff

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/24/an...-christmas-eve
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12-26-2017 , 06:24 PM
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So James Harrison is signing with the Patriots? Seems so weird that so many people sign with their rivals.
Standard BB. Harrison will be released just before or after the Patriots play the Steelers--or as soon as it becomes obvious that they won't be playing each other in the post-season.
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12-26-2017 , 06:34 PM
Yup the Pats are basically paying for knowledge of the Steeler's playbook.
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12-26-2017 , 06:37 PM
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Yup the Pats are basically paying for knowledge of the Steeler's playbook.
LOL. I am pretty sure they are going to use him as a situational player. Why would they need knowledge of the Steelers defense when they pretty much score at will vs. them.
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12-26-2017 , 06:38 PM
27 in the last game including multiple stops and one turnover is "scoring at will"?
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12-26-2017 , 06:44 PM
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27 in the last game including multiple stops and one turnover is "scoring at will"?
They made them punt multiple times and had ONE turnover???? 27 points is a little less than the 31 points they had averaged the last 12 times that Brady played them.
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12-26-2017 , 06:46 PM
4 points is a pretty big deal in a game of American football.
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12-26-2017 , 06:47 PM
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4 points is a pretty big deal in a game of American football.
****, one more game where they Steelers dominate Brady holding him to 27 points and they might drop his career passer rating vs. them under 110.
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12-26-2017 , 06:48 PM
how much secret stuff can there even be
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12-26-2017 , 06:50 PM
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The game was still competitive at that point. The Pats didn't really blow it open until late. it's a bit disingenuous to argue that nothing else changes the rest of the way if the Bills get that TD.
I mean the fourth quarter is part of the game no? Your point has merit, but it's also disingenuous to say that this cost the Bills the game. This wasn't a Steelers magnitude call.

Overturn was pretty absurd, Bills lose either way. There's a reason they never beat the Pats.
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12-26-2017 , 06:53 PM
I never said they "dominated" what reason would you have to lie? 27 points plus making the Patriots sustain long drives to get it done instead of just falling by 21 in the first half is quite a difference.

If you actually watched games or knew anything about strat you'd also know the Steelers played a completely different scheme from their normal defense. I'm sure Belichek would want to know as much as he could about it, as the Steelers are probably the only threat to them in the AFC field.
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12-26-2017 , 06:54 PM
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I mean the fourth quarter is part of the game no? Your point has merit, but it's also disingenuous to say that this cost the Bills the game. This wasn't a Steelers magnitude call.

Overturn was pretty absurd, Bills lose either way. There's a reason they never beat the Pats.
The fourth quarter is indeed part of the game, but how it plays out is largely determined by whether or not you can match the Pats on O or end up trading 3s for 7s. Especially for a team like the Bills whose passing game is really good enough to be able to fall behind by more than one score. If the game is close they can still run and may have a shot.
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12-26-2017 , 06:55 PM
Stealer fans
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12-26-2017 , 07:00 PM
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I never said they "dominated" what reason would you have to lie? 27 points plus making the Patriots sustain long drives to get it done instead of just falling by 21 in the first half is quite a difference.

If you actually watched games or knew anything about strat you'd also know the Steelers played a completely different scheme from their normal defense. I'm sure Belichek would want to know as much as he could about it, as the Steelers are probably the only threat to them in the AFC field.
Brady is 11-2 against the Steelers. Calling them a threat seems like a little bit of a stretch.

I am sure that Belichick is no nuanced in the art of man defense. I am Harrison will be able to enlighten him though.

Not going down by 21 in the first half is really sort of achievement.
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12-26-2017 , 07:04 PM
When that's been the outcome in the most recent match ups it's definitely an improvement, and it was good enough to give the offense a chance to win the game at the end. What more can one ask for against NE?

Do you really think anyone else in the AFC field has a better shot against NE than PIT? If JAX ends up making the AFC-C, which is well within the realm of possibility, I don't see them even getting to 20 against NE, and I'm sure Bortles will be baited into multiple INTS, which won't be anywhere near enough even with how good their D is.

You really ought to just enjoy Miami's home wins against the Pats because they are the closest thing Miami has played to a meaningful game since Marino.
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12-26-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Do you really think anyone else in the AFC field has a better shot against NE than PIT? If JAX ends up making the AFC-C, which is well within the realm of possibility, I don't see them even getting to 20 against NE, and I'm sure Bortles will be baited into multiple INTS, which won't be anywhere near enough even with how good their D is.
Well Brady is 2-2 against Baltimore in the playoffs, so I would say they have a better chance than the Steelers. Maybe the Chiefs too, since you know, they actually beat them this year.

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You really ought to just enjoy Miami's home wins against the Pats because they are the closest thing Miami has played to a meaningful game since Marino.

Sweet burn champ.
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12-26-2017 , 07:24 PM
Chiefs won that game in the first week. Pats are clearly better now and the Chiefs are clearly worse. Not certain how Baltimore's playoff record against New England would matter. Is there anyone currently on the BAL roster from the bulk of those games other than Flacco? Maybe Ray Rice will come out of retirement for the playoffs and style on them again.
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12-26-2017 , 07:37 PM
Pretty cool profile on John DeFilippo, current Eagles QB coach and someone league folks think might be the next Sean McVay / Kyle Shanahan type to take the league by storm as a head coach.

Sure, the profile is on the Eagles SBNation site, but it's still an interesting read anyway. So far his track record is pretty good for getting more out of his QBs than most. (I mean, he got Johnny Manziel to a positive TD:INT ratio, for God's sake.)

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...s-carson-wentz
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12-26-2017 , 08:16 PM
Landon Collins called Eli Apple a cancer in a radio interview.

What a year for the Giants.
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12-26-2017 , 08:24 PM
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Pretty cool profile on John DeFilippo, current Eagles QB coach and someone league folks think might be the next Sean McVay / Kyle Shanahan type to take the league by storm as a head coach.

Sure, the profile is on the Eagles SBNation site, but it's still an interesting read anyway. So far his track record is pretty good for getting more out of his QBs than most. (I mean, he got Johnny Manziel to a positive TD:INT ratio, for God's sake.)

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/...s-carson-wentz
1 year as an offensive coordinator for a team with a 3-13 record = head coaching candidate? Job hoppers who don't actually take promotions seen to always be in over their head. Gase example 1, Hue Jackson example 2.

McVay had 3 years of being an OC and worked his way up the ranks on one team.
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12-26-2017 , 08:26 PM
Hue Jackson started in college and got his break in the NFL as a position coach, then he was an OC for two different teams before he got his first head coaching gig. That doesn't count as working one's way up?
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12-26-2017 , 08:39 PM
Seeing as how he's never had the same job for more than 3 years during his 30 year career, it looks an awful lot like job hopping.

The jobs he's had for 3 years:
Pacific - graduate assistant
Arizona State - running back coach
Bengals - wide receiver coach

Here's the complete resume:

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Career history
As coach:
Pacific (1987–1989)
Graduate assistant, Wide receivers, Running backs & special teams coach
Cal State Fullerton (1990–1991)
Running backs coach & special teams coach
Arizona State (1992–1994)
Running backs coach
Arizona State (1995)
Quarterbacks coach
California (1996)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
USC (1997)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
USC (1998–1999)
Offensive coordinator & running backs coach
USC (2000)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach
Washington Redskins (2001–2002)
Running backs coach
Washington Redskins (2003)
Offensive coordinator
Cincinnati Bengals (2004–2006)
Wide receivers coach
Atlanta Falcons (2007)
Offensive coordinator
Baltimore Ravens (2008–2009)
Quarterbacks coach
Oakland Raiders (2010)
Offensive coordinator
Oakland Raiders (2011)
Head coach
Cincinnati Bengals (2012)
Secondary assistant & special teams coach
Cincinnati Bengals (2013)
Running backs coach
Cincinnati Bengals (2014–2015)
Offensive coordinator
Cleveland Browns (2016–present)
Head coach
I regret thinking that Hue Jackson was good at football coachery.

Things he's coached: wide receivers, running backs, special teams, quarterbacks, offense, an entire team & defensive backs...
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12-26-2017 , 08:51 PM
job hopping is called being a football coach though, one way or another. Very few college or pro have the long success of BB or the franchise willing to be stable/patient like PIT.

Not defending lol Hue here, but that type of resume is common for coaches. The ones that don't are usually nepotism (deserved or not).
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12-26-2017 , 08:54 PM
Lots of guys make weird moves like that though. Ron Rivera went from OL coach to DC in PHI. I don't really see how jumping teams can be held against someone since the number of jobs is so limited. Who's going to stick around to be a position coach/coordinator if another team is offering a huge raise and one of only 32 chances to be an OC or HC?
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12-26-2017 , 08:57 PM
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Hue Jackson started in college and got his break in the NFL as a position coach, then he was an OC for two different teams before he got his first head coaching gig. That doesn't count as working one's way up?
I think job hopping like that so is the fastest way to peter principle yourself. If you are constantly switching teams after a 1-2 year stretch then I don't think you will be that good of a head coach. I looked at a couple, like Parcells, Jo Harbaugh, Arians and none of them were like that.
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