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12-15-2019 , 02:53 AM

#17651

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Originally Posted by Exothermic

Colby was hurt but that was a crap stoppage.

Got KD'd twice and wasnt improving. Stoppage was fine. Colby is a fake douche but respect for the fight he put up in there.

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12-15-2019 , 02:57 AM

#17652

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Originally Posted by RT

Got KD'd twice and wasnt improving. Stoppage was fine. Colby is a fake douche but respect for the fight he put up in there.

He was wrestling & trying to get to his feet. Whatever, it's over, hopefully colby comes back & brings us some more entertainment. I'm very surprised not one person went for a takedown, they must both have people in their camps that know the other guy and told them to not waste energy as the wrestling is too close.

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12-15-2019 , 02:57 AM

#17653

housenuts

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Judges had it
3-1, 1-3, 2-2

WTF

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12-15-2019 , 02:58 AM

#17654

El Kabong

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Colby was winning on the cards :\

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12-15-2019 , 02:59 AM

#17655

R_Webb18

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Colby was winning on the cards :\

no it was a draw

Usman most likely wins 5th if goes to decision also

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12-15-2019 , 03:01 AM

#17656

Onlydo2days

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I thought the stoppage was 1-2 seconds too early but it was over

Was a 10-8 rd even if he makes it to the end

I really didn't think Usman's striking was all that much better than Colby's like the announcers were saying, I just thought he had more power in the exchanges which added up. But technical striking I don't think it was much difference.

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12-15-2019 , 03:01 AM

#17657

kingofcool

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Ye Usman wins that 5th round without the stoppage, but Colby was winning it up until the last 2 minutes by a decent margin.

Always thought Colby was a loud clown, but he impressed me tonight. To fight like that with a broken jaw is insane.

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12-15-2019 , 03:02 AM

#17658

DisGunBGud

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I don't know how anyone had Colby up. He was technically mastered unless a few flurries and random throwing is what wins UFC fights these days. He was outclassed with a solid jab all night.

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12-15-2019 , 03:03 AM

#17659

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Judges had it
3-1, 1-3, 2-2

WTF

I'm assuming even that brain dead judge gives Usman the 5th 10-8, but even still, WTF is right. 2-2, ok maybe because Colby was countering effectively and making Usman miss enough that some rounds were close, but 1-3??

(I realize technically you can give him every close round and get 1-3, but that just feels so wrong when looking at the fight as a whole)

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12-15-2019 , 03:05 AM

#17660

DodgerIrish

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That judge was the poll-the-audience selection.

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12-15-2019 , 03:06 AM

#17661

kingofcool

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I gave Colby 1 and 4, but he arguably won 2 as well. It is absolutely not outlandish. Giving Usman 1 or 4 (aka 3-1) is much stranger.

From a quick browse of the bigger mma-sites live scoring, most had it 2-2 with sherdog having it 3-1 colby and mmajunkie 3-1 usman.

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12-15-2019 , 03:10 AM

#17662

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Link to the post fight presser

Not sure if Colby will show up or head straight to the hospital to get his jaw set. Either way, probably worth it on the chance we get some solid Kirkland Brand Chael lines in

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12-15-2019 , 03:11 AM

#17663

darO

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Colby: I broke my jaw

Cornerman: You've got 10 more minutes

Why would anyone want to be a pro MMA fighter?

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12-15-2019 , 03:14 AM

#17664

NotReddBoiler

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Man Conor would starch Usman or Colby. Or Masvidal. Hope Conor takes a stay in 170.

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12-15-2019 , 03:14 AM

#17665

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What sort of dumb question is that Dar0? When you get a chance to make $400k + no win bonus for the opportunity to pay your entire camp over a 4 month period, put yourself through hell, and have your boss talk **** about you at every turn you can't pass that up.

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12-15-2019 , 03:21 AM

#17666

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seemed ludicrous to think it was 3-1 colby. but this is a made up scoring system, so who knows.

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12-15-2019 , 03:24 AM

#17667

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Originally Posted by Slighted

seemed ludicrous to think it was 3-1 colby. but this is a made up scoring system, so who knows.

That's the thing, you can judge round-by-round (which you should), give every close round to Colby and come away 3-1 going into 5. But I don't see how it's possible to look at the fight as the guys were ready to come out for the bell at 5 and think it's a "3-1 Colby" fight.

I thought Usman won 1 close and 3 clearly and Colby won 2 close and 4 was a total toss up.

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12-15-2019 , 03:28 AM

#17668

Hoagie

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Isn’t that the problem though? We have an antiquated boxing based scoring system.

It’s a good system when you’re running out 12 rounds, but for 3 or 5 it’s dumb.

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12-15-2019 , 03:28 AM

#17669

darO

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Sherdog judges had it

3-1 Cov
3-1 Cov
2-2

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12-15-2019 , 03:33 AM

#17670

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Originally Posted by Hoagie

Isn’t that the problem though? We have an antiquated boxing based scoring system.

It’s a good system when you’re running out 12 rounds, but for 3 or 5 it’s dumb.

Yeah, but there aren't a ton of better options. You could use the old Pride system of just judging the fight as a whole, but that tends to overweight later action.

You could add more variety to the scores, maybe by awarding 1, 2, or 3 points to the winner of each round based on the severity but that's going to open scores up to wild swings between opinions.

There's just no an easy way (besides "to the death") to judge combat sports with so few rounds.

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12-15-2019 , 03:36 AM

#17671

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Originally Posted by Slighted

seemed ludicrous to think it was 3-1 colby. but this is a made up scoring system, so who knows.

We're in the post-truth era.

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12-15-2019 , 03:47 AM

#17672

Onlydo2days

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Not sure where Usman really goes from here. I doubt Masvidal has much interest in fighting him when he can take easier fights and make just as much or more money. No one else at 170 is remotely a draw.

Wonder if Max stays at 145 and tries to get his belt back or moves up to 155, could see him getting an immediate rematch if he wants as well.