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01-19-2020 , 10:06 AM
Floyd thirsty on twitter

Don't see that fight happening again unless McGregor is the clear A-side, he's moved past Floyd in terms of stardom and Floyd needs him way more, and he's rich now with multiple options.
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01-19-2020 , 11:35 AM
Would you guys say that Conor fighting Colby next is a forgone conclusion, or just a threegone conclusion?
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01-19-2020 , 12:00 PM
In the post fight show Chael said how it feels like Dana unwittingly booked the Conor vs Masvidal fight a couple of months ago by saying Masvidal was too big for him. I think now Dana might be playing the game a bit by talking about Khabib vs Conor happening next. It seems to be close to a consensus between people that cover the sport and fans that Conor vs Masvidal should be next and for all his flaws Dana is pretty good at delivering in those spots.
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01-19-2020 , 12:08 PM
I think Conor is one of the greatest strikers in MMA history. If they want to keep the hype train going just keep putting him in there with bums like Cerrone or strikers. No one can beat him standing up. Gaethje and Masvidal would be great matchups for him and I think he beats them both.

BUT if you put him with world-class grapplers he has very little chance. No idea why he wanted to fight Khabib in the first place. It's a terrible matchup as is Usman, Colby and Woodley. Conor has 2 clear flaws - wrestling and cardio. A smart grappler will exploit that easily.

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01-19-2020 , 12:14 PM
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lol Kidrock intro, you dumb f*ckin' cow turd
You mean the intro he used for his last 50 fights?
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01-19-2020 , 01:55 PM
Conor and Masvidal would try to knee each other immediately off the opening bell and knock themselves out
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01-19-2020 , 06:22 PM
I think Masvidal would chew McGregor up and choke him out. Just like Nate. Just like Khabib at 155.
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01-19-2020 , 06:48 PM
That would be Masvidal's first win over a former champ.
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01-19-2020 , 08:42 PM
Can't believe I somehow didn't notice the best buy security chick between Conor and Cowboy at the weigh-in. She would have beat the living hell out of Cowboy. Conor would probably survive if he kept her at distance.

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01-20-2020 , 01:14 PM
Percentages on Conor’s next opponents?

I’d go:
Masidval- 60%
Floyd - 15%
Pacquiao- 10%
Diaz - 10%
Usman, Gaethje, Khabib a combined 5%
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01-20-2020 , 01:56 PM
Masvidal is basically 100% in my eyes, if they offer Connor a shot at that pseudo-belt, he'll snap take it. I don't see him returning to boxing this year.
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01-20-2020 , 02:02 PM
Considering the Khabib/Tony fight has fallen through 4 previous times there is certainly a greater than 0% chance that McGregor moves in to fight one of those 2.

I would be absolutely repulsed if Floyd or Pacquiao happened but it's the fans own fault if they are willing to pay for that crap AGAIN.
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01-20-2020 , 02:46 PM
The way I look at it and id guess they look at it inna similar way is that the boxing fights and title fights will always be there. Masvidal is like a shooting star and if you don’t make that fight right now it might never be there again. It’s clearly the fight to make and the fight the fans want and for all their shortcomings the ufc usually comes through in these spots.
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01-20-2020 , 02:59 PM
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Considering the Khabib/Tony fight has fallen through 4 previous times there is certainly a greater than 0% chance that McGregor moves in to fight one of those 2.

I would be absolutely repulsed if Floyd or Pacquiao happened but it's the fans own fault if they are willing to pay for that crap AGAIN.
Ditto. Good opportunity to put life savings on Floyd, tho
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01-20-2020 , 04:13 PM
They wont have Khabib vs. McGregor 2 without a loooong promotion buildup.
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01-20-2020 , 04:33 PM
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They wont have Khabib vs. McGregor 2 without a loooong promotion buildup.
Bingo, reason #2 I dont see a khabib fight happening anytime soon is Khabib genuinely hates Conor and all he stands for. He has said it several times that if Conor ever wants to fight him again, Conor is going to have to win several fights before getting the shot. Money doesnt speak to Khabib, so even though he could make 10x more fighting Conor than the next #1 contender, he will take the fight with whom he thinks deserves a title shot.
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01-20-2020 , 04:37 PM
McGregor has 5 of the 6 biggest PPVs in UFC history...probably 6 out of 7 after this last one and that's not including their biggest money maker of all which is Mayweather vs McGregor so I suppose 7 out 8 of the biggest PPVs in the company's history. The UFC will let McGregor fight as often as he wants.

It's quite likely that Khabib vs McGregor 2 would surpass all but the Mayweather fight even with minimal promotion. Why would they stop that from happening?
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01-20-2020 , 04:39 PM
UFC would love nothing more than a Khabib McGregor 2 with a 2-3 month build time. HOWEVER, I dont think Khabib feels that way.
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01-20-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Bingo, reason #2 I dont see a khabib fight happening anytime soon is Khabib genuinely hates Conor and all he stands for. He has said it several times that if Conor ever wants to fight him again, Conor is going to have to win several fights before getting the shot. Money doesnt speak to Khabib, so even though he could make 10x more fighting Conor than the next #1 contender, he will take the fight with whom he thinks deserves a title shot.
Conor has already said he'll step in and fight for that belt. It could be Khabib or Tony that pulls out. I really don't think Khabib would turn down that fight and an 8 figure payday but if he did the UFC would simply strip him of the title and have McGregor face Gaethje for the title and that would only build more interest for a potential McGregor vs Khabib 2.
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01-20-2020 , 04:40 PM
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McGregor has 5 of the 6 biggest PPVs in UFC history...probably 6 out of 7 after this last one and that's not including their biggest money maker of all which is Mayweather vs McGregor so I suppose 7 out 8 of the biggest PPVs in the company's history. The UFC will let McGregor fight as often as he wants.

It's quite likely that Khabib vs McGregor 2 would surpass all but the Mayweather fight even with minimal promotion. Why would they stop that from happening?
The problem (for the UFC) is the gap between "How good Conor thinks he is" and "How good Conor is". It's not immediately clear that Conor beats Tony, and it's pretty damn clear that he loses to Khabib.

Conor is still a draw even if Khabib dominates him again because his fans will keep making excuses, but his star takes a hit with each loss.

It makes way more sense to give Conor high profile, but winnable fights (the Jorge's, Nate's, and Cowboy's of the world), on his way back to Khabib/Tony then it does to throw him right in there and kill the golden goose straight off. Sure, some tiny % of the time Conor wins and the star goes Nova, but most of the time Conor gets smoked and you get one big PPV before Conor ****s off into a huge pile of coke again.
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01-20-2020 , 05:21 PM
The UFC isn't counting on Conor continuing to return and take more fights. Their motto has always been that stars come and go and even without Conor the UFC had a great 2019. The UFC, particularly under WME-IMG, is not very long term focused when it comes to these big PPV matchups. If they see a potential money grab they're gonna take it.

They didn't worry about Floyd tarnishing Conor's brand or the UFC brand. They didn't worry about Conor being embarrassed by Khabib or take a hit from potentially losing to Aldo or even Chad Mendes, a wrestler Conor faced on short notice and hadn't even prepared for. If the UFC sees money they're going to try to take it and will deal with the consequences later.
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01-20-2020 , 05:28 PM
Hell, even the first Nate Diaz fight Nate came in on 11 days notice after RDA pulled out of the fight. Jon Jones would never take a short notice fight like that because it's super risky. Conor will though and the UFC is happy he will even if he risks hurting his own brand.
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01-20-2020 , 05:33 PM
I agree with RT's logic and it's the type of thing I used to say, but recent history shows that DC is right.

re: his last post

Jones wouldn't take on Chael (of all people) on short notice bc he thought it was an inside job and Hendo had already prepped him for the situation when he dropped out.
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01-20-2020 , 05:37 PM
RT is taking the Fertitta and historic boxing line, IMG has a nut it has to find every year for it's creditors so it's carpe diem and we're all dead in the long run anyway.
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01-20-2020 , 11:01 PM
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Bingo, reason #2 I dont see a khabib fight happening anytime soon is Khabib genuinely hates Conor and all he stands for. He has said it several times that if Conor ever wants to fight him again, Conor is going to have to win several fights before getting the shot. Money doesnt speak to Khabib, so even though he could make 10x more fighting Conor than the next #1 contender, he will take the fight with whom he thinks deserves a title shot.
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I really don't think Khabib would turn down that fight and an 8 figure payday
Just today Khabib's dad said the UFC needs to pony up $100 million for Khabib to fight McGregor. Khabib hasn't even beaten Tony yet and they are already negotiating the McGregor contract details though the media. We can talk about principles until we're blue in the face but the fact of the matter is that money makes the world go 'round.

On a side note, I don't really get the principle behind not fighting a dude for millions when the reality is you would fight him for free if you weren't a professional fighter. One could argue it's highly unethical to not take the fight given all the good you could do for the world with those millions of dollars.
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