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02-13-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by partywme
bars been set so high with rousey/mcgregor, this card was always going to be a flop.
Was there even a title fight on the card?
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02-13-2017 , 06:42 PM
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Poirier-Miller & Jacare-Boetsch were good, Teixeira-Cannonier was OK, rest of card was meh.

Worst thing about the night though was the officials - some terrible reffing and scoring going on.
Yeah women's fight was very underwhelming for how much it was built up. Didn't have high hopes for Silva to begin with, basically just came to see Khabib and Jacare - $$ well spent imo
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02-13-2017 , 07:25 PM
Silva fight was a joke. He said pay me that money, that's all that fight was about.
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02-14-2017 , 04:25 AM
What's up with The Irish Sun? They say Conor and Floyd agreed on money and the fight might be announced in 2 weeks.
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02-14-2017 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Dana was on interviews again saying how Mcgregor is under contract. He sounded kinda pissed when discussing the boxing match. Said he hasn't spoken to Conor since he had his little Q and A couple weeks back.
Obviously he's pissed, he probably figured out Conor is gone as soon as the fight with Floyd ends. You have to be really dumb to fight in the UFC after you got like 100m in the bank.
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02-14-2017 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Was there even a title fight on the card?
"Women's 145"

@Ra_Z High bar in terms of buys.
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02-14-2017 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rainbowsinthesky
Obviously he's pissed, he probably figured out Conor is gone as soon as the fight with Floyd ends. You have to be really dumb to fight in the UFC after you got like 100m in the bank.
I don't know if he would be gone for good but I do think it is safe to say he isn't going to follow the normal champion schedule and fight #1 contender after #1 contender when the UFC tells him to.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2772af5d61c9

WaPo picking up irish sun story. Media reported Floyd/Pac was close to done a ton of times over the years as well tho.
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02-14-2017 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Was there even a title fight on the card?
holm was coming off the back of two losing fights, but yet somehow ends up getting a shot at the new title.

they should have held that off until cyborg was able to fight diuretic free.
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02-14-2017 , 07:50 AM
I think part of the reason dana/ufc are pissed about the mcgregor/mayweather boxing fight is that its going to be a HUGE (>$100m inc PPV's) payday for mcgregor.

At this point the ufc probably realise they wont be able to get mcgegor fighting again for $3-4m like the last few fights vs diaz/diaz2 and alvarez.
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02-14-2017 , 07:53 AM
With PPV $ included he probably made like 15-25 his last few fights. But still pales in comparison to what he would get vs Floyd if he can pull it off.

And after that I doubt he is dying to get in there with someone like Khabib. Maybe just do Diaz 3 at 155 and call it a day.

Kindof amazing that UFC possibly went from Ronda/McGregor resurgence after the GSP/Silva era to their biggest draw now potentially being like DC I guess?
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02-14-2017 , 08:02 AM
Jon Jones back soon as well. I dont think rousey ever fights again.

I think the UFC are set up to do well for the next couple of years with fights like,

Holloway/Aldo, Ferguson/khabib, Cody/Lineker, Jones/DC, Cody upto 145 to challenge champ?, mcgregor/diaz3, cyborg vs champ at 145, cyborg/nunes?, nick diaz return at 170?

I think all those fights draw big numbers and could headline any UFC event. stick a couple of those on a card and all of a sudden you're probably looking at numbers close to ufc 200/205
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02-14-2017 , 08:08 AM
I think you are underrating how hard it is to get 200/205 type PPV #'s. Jury is still out on if Khabib can sell PPV's, Aldo can't, Cody we'll see. He has to get by TJ as well. Does Nick Diaz want to fight? Who knows, he turned down a few fights recently.

I do think Cyborg/Nunes would be a big fight if Cyborg won the 145 title and Nunes another W or 2. But a lot has to go right for that to happen.

Here is a list of UFC PPV buy-rates historically.

[url]http://www.tapology.com/search/mma-event-figures/ppv-pay-per-view-buys-buyrate[/url


this has it in order

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

Last edited by Onlydo2days; 02-14-2017 at 08:14 AM.
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02-14-2017 , 09:49 AM
Irish Sun is garbage as a source fwiw.
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02-14-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I think you are underrating how hard it is to get 200/205 type PPV #'s. Jury is still out on if Khabib can sell PPV's, Aldo can't, Cody we'll see. He has to get by TJ as well. Does Nick Diaz want to fight? Who knows, he turned down a few fights recently.

I do think Cyborg/Nunes would be a big fight if Cyborg won the 145 title and Nunes another W or 2. But a lot has to go right for that to happen.

Here is a list of UFC PPV buy-rates historically.

[url]http://www.tapology.com/search/mma-event-figures/ppv-pay-per-view-buys-buyrate[/url


this has it in order

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/
i think khabib with the following he has in russia has the potential to be a huge star. The problem with him is he just doesn't fight enough.

rumours with nick was that he wasn't being offered enough $ to come back, if he's anything like nate he will hold out for the big fights meaning big $. wasn't he offered lawler? problem with that fight was its not a title fight so he won't get a cut from the PPV's.

i think the UFC need to realise that the days where big draw fighters get into the octagon for $100k are over. They need to be offering them mid 6 figures plus for these fights to happen. If you look at the ferguson/khabib fight, that almost never happened because they wasn't willing to pay ferguson the money.
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02-14-2017 , 12:48 PM
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ery-very-close

Maybe the irish sun was onto something
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02-14-2017 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
"Women's 145"

@Ra_Z High bar in terms of buys.
I didn't even know they had a 145 class. The card looked like dog**** when it came out, everyone should have expected weak PPV. I don't think Holm is worth watching at all, she is a female Buster Douglas.

They need to have 2 title fights per card unless it's a huge draw and then they can get away with one title fight and some good action fighters.

Maybe something good does come from the CMG vs FM circus, that the UFC will not pocket 75% of the profits now, there is plenty of money to go around. Conor could make $20 mil per fight for the UFC and it would still be very profitable to them.
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02-14-2017 , 02:39 PM
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I didn't even know they had a 145 class.
They didn't before 208.
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02-14-2017 , 05:13 PM
funny thing about the new 145 womens division was the ufc actually offered the title fight to cyborg, she couldn't accept because she knew that she would fail the usada drugs test. Usada's alarm bells went off after cyborg had turned down a fight in a division which she had been wanting for the last year or so.

it would have been holm v cyborg in that fight had it not been for those diuretics
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02-14-2017 , 05:59 PM
Surely Cyborg could cycle off for a while and still crush the standard in women's is so lolbad.
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02-14-2017 , 06:36 PM
Wasn't Manny testing dirty part of the hold up? Mcgregor should have no issues taking a piss test to get the ball rolling. Plus Mcgregor's fee should be way lower than Manny's so coming to terms will be easier.

Conor has been rather quiet as of late, this makes me think he's working on this deal.
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02-14-2017 , 08:30 PM
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Wasn't Manny testing dirty part of the hold up? Mcgregor should have no issues taking a piss test to get the ball rolling. Plus Mcgregor's fee should be way lower than Manny's so coming to terms will be easier.

Conor has been rather quiet as of late, this makes me think he's working on this deal.
Nah, it was Manny not wanting to do blood testing because he's a superstitious idiot from an impoverished-****hole part of the Philippines and has a 6th grade education. He thought that removing blood before a fight steals his aura or some dumb ****. He's never actually tested dirty. May or may not be using, but the superstition thing is completely plausible based on my interactions with Filipinos.
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02-14-2017 , 10:12 PM
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/1...ma-competition

Lesnar telling UFC he is retired.
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02-14-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Nah, it was Manny not wanting to do blood testing because he's a superstitious idiot from an impoverished-****hole part of the Philippines and has a 6th grade education. He thought that removing blood before a fight steals his aura or some dumb ****. He's never actually tested dirty. May or may not be using, but the superstition thing is completely plausible based on my interactions with Filipinos.
Wowza. This post just kept escalating...
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02-15-2017 , 12:07 AM
Racism aside, DO is basically correct there. Manny was all about drug testing up until a week or so prior to the fight. Floyd wanted it up to the day prior to the fight. Neither Manny nor Floyd has ever failed a drug test although Manny started at 108 lbs. and won titles up through 154 lbs and Floyd has been given retroactive exemptions for his "issues" at least three times.

If you ain't cheatin'...
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02-15-2017 , 12:12 AM
The blood test and also Manny losing twice and getting KTFO. I remember Freddie Roach saying Manny needed at least 3 days to recover after the blood test, that seemed weird to me.


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