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01-02-2017 , 02:03 PM
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01-02-2017 , 02:05 PM
Ronda is hurting herself not doing the press. In the social media age press can light you on fire. You think anyone knew who Nate Diaz was? look at him now, he has a million followers on instagram. Same with Meisha, her follows and stock shot up like crazy. Idk if Ronda realizes but she's legit an icon to women even just casuals and hiding in her cave is doing nothing to help herself. Amanda is creating memes left and right, pretty soon Ronda will be forgotten.
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01-02-2017 , 02:11 PM
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Boxing is limited, predictable, and boring.
And dead.
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01-02-2017 , 02:18 PM
Holy **** @ Garbrandt's performance. out-Cruz-ed Cruz. Skyrockets bantamweight to the top of the most interesting divisions

top 3 most interesting divisions:

1. Lightweight - McGoat vs. Everyone
2. Bantamweight - Garbrandt vs. T.J. vs. Cruz - 3 of the most technically gifted fighters in the world + the whole team Alpha male narrative thrown in
3. Middleweight - We're going to see the belt switch hands a lot this year. Bisping, Rockhold, Romero, Weidman, Jacare are all candidates to see some championship fight action this year

top 3 least interesting:
1. Flyweight- MM just destroying everyone. zzzzzzz
2. Heavyweight - Cain fights once every 5 years due to injury. Stipe Miocic is champ. meh.
3. Light Heavyweight - JJ is gone. Everyone else is injured, or ducking so they can wait for the right fight.
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01-02-2017 , 02:32 PM
Your LHW criticism makes no sense - DC and Rumble will fight in the next 3-4 months and the winner will fight JJ in July. Both of those things might well happen before McGoat fights again.

Not saying LHW is a hugely interesting division, but the analysis is a bit like why Mike Goldberg got cut..."he cracks him with a jab"..."err, that was a straight left, Mike".
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01-03-2017 , 01:50 PM
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3. Middleweight - We're going to see the belt switch hands a lot this year. Bisping, Rockhold, Romero, Weidman, Jacare are all candidates to see some championship fight action this year
Gegard is live too.
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01-03-2017 , 06:05 PM
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01-03-2017 , 08:02 PM
Haven't seen a good gif of the push-up yet.
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01-04-2017 , 03:46 AM
UFC needs GSP.
Now more than ever .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJeuRnjxntU
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01-04-2017 , 04:00 AM
So the guy who will replace mike goldberg is an ex WWE interviewer (Todd Grisham)?
Great......wtf.

IF true.
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01-04-2017 , 04:21 AM
Grisham hosted ESPN's short lived MMA Live show when Anik left and was the studio host for Friday Night Fights.

No clue how he'll do though.
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01-04-2017 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband View Post
Boxing is limited, predictable, and boring.
And dead.
Hmmm.

We've seen 3 failed boxers dominate UFC lately - Conor, Cody, and Stipe.

Just goes to show if average boxers can keep the fight standing they're going to do well.

And dare I say that a man with a few months boxing training would beat the living **** out of any black belt in karate, TWD, Aikido etc.

Boxing teaches you both how to throw and take a punch. I did karate when I was about 6 and I remember the sensei showing us how to defend a punch. As if the assailant just throws one punch at a time. Basically with amazing timing raise your arm and deflect it away lol. Then let out a scream and go for the counter strike.
Waste of ****ing time.
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01-04-2017 , 06:06 AM
Yeah, Karate fighters have had no success at all in mma.
Machida and Wonderboy are both garbage amirite??
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01-04-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Hmmm.

We've seen 3 failed boxers dominate UFC lately - Conor, Cody, and Stipe.

Just goes to show if average boxers can keep the fight standing they're going to do well.
How are those guys failed boxers?
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01-04-2017 , 12:58 PM
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I think Cody is awesome! Those are serious Salaburu moves

Does anyone knows if there is a chance to fight Conor in terms of weight/category?
Very slim chance they could do it at 145 if Conor really wanted to do it for some reason but I doubt it.

Edit: Just read something where he said he'd fight Conor at 150 so maybe possible if he wins a few more big fights and the money becomes right for Conor. Pretty funny that we've got fighters from 135 to 170 in the Conor discussion.

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01-04-2017 , 04:32 PM
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Very slim chance they could do it at 145 if Conor really wanted to do it for some reason but I doubt it.

Edit: Just read something where he said he'd fight Conor at 150 so maybe possible if he wins a few more big fights and the money becomes right for Conor. Pretty funny that we've got fighters from 135 to 170 in the Conor discussion.
I could see it in a few years if Garbrandt and Conor both keep defending successfully. Garbrandt is probably the most likely fighter to get really big for the UFC and that could draw Conor's interest. According to the internet Conor has 9" reach on Cody.
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01-04-2017 , 09:55 PM
So weird there are 0 scheduled title fights right now (besides the new belt in Brooklyn I guess), has that ever happened before?
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01-04-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Hmmm.

We've seen 3 failed boxers dominate UFC lately - Conor, Cody, and Stipe.

Just goes to show if average boxers can keep the fight standing they're going to do well.

And dare I say that a man with a few months boxing training would beat the living **** out of any black belt in karate, TWD, Aikido etc.

Boxing teaches you both how to throw and take a punch. I did karate when I was about 6 and I remember the sensei showing us how to defend a punch. As if the assailant just throws one punch at a time. Basically with amazing timing raise your arm and deflect it away lol. Then let out a scream and go for the counter strike.
Waste of ****ing time.
this is also some of the stupidest garbage.

Cody Garbrandt was a championship HS wrestler. State champion junior year, runner up senior year in Ohio, a very strong wrestling state. He had major attention from D1 programs. So he's a wrestler, that's his base.

Or he went 11-1 as an amateur boxer after HS, so he's a boxer? Whatever, he's a wrestler and a boxer. But at the same time he was amateur boxer, he was also taking amateur MMA fights as well. He was basically doing everything, maybe because he was only like 20/21 years old and still learning everything.

So he's neither failed (was a very good amateur) nor a boxer (a kid who did everything). Neither of those words is accurate. You're just very dumb.

Miocic, same exact thing. He was an elite HS wrestler. Placed 7th in the nation in his weight class. Was a very strong collegiate wrestler, ranked in the top 20, made it to nationals sophomore year. Then he quit to do baseball, because to reiterate the point, he was 21 ****ing years old and did a bunch of everything. He was probably a collegiate all-american wrestler if he stays junior/senior year.

But he also did golden gloves (because again, he did a lot of things), so he's a failed boxer. Except that he didn't fail (he was great) and he wasn't a boxer, just a guy who did everything.


Why is there so much stupid in this thread. Why does MMA attract idiots with hot takes. why.
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01-04-2017 , 10:10 PM
Hell even McGregor. He started boxing at 12 years old, and at 15 started grappling and wrestling as well, and found out that he loved it. Had his first MMA fight at 18.

I guess that makes him a 'failed boxer', because he didn't win whatever prestigious 14 year old title, lol. Good lord. I suppose any MMA fighter who ever competed in a single boxing match of any kind while they were 13 years old is just a 'failed boxer'. My brain hurts.
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01-05-2017 , 03:44 AM
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this is also some of the stupidest garbage.

Cody Garbrandt was a championship HS wrestler. State champion junior year, runner up senior year in Ohio, a very strong wrestling state. He had major attention from D1 programs. So he's a wrestler, that's his base.

Or he went 11-1 as an amateur boxer after HS, so he's a boxer? Whatever, he's a wrestler and a boxer. But at the same time he was amateur boxer, he was also taking amateur MMA fights as well. He was basically doing everything, maybe because he was only like 20/21 years old and still learning everything.

So he's neither failed (was a very good amateur) nor a boxer (a kid who did everything). Neither of those words is accurate. You're just very dumb.

Miocic, same exact thing. He was an elite HS wrestler. Placed 7th in the nation in his weight class. Was a very strong collegiate wrestler, ranked in the top 20, made it to nationals sophomore year. Then he quit to do baseball, because to reiterate the point, he was 21 ****ing years old and did a bunch of everything. He was probably a collegiate all-american wrestler if he stays junior/senior year.

But he also did golden gloves (because again, he did a lot of things), so he's a failed boxer. Except that he didn't fail (he was great) and he wasn't a boxer, just a guy who did everything.


Why is there so much stupid in this thread. Why does MMA attract idiots with hot takes. why.
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Hell even McGregor. He started boxing at 12 years old, and at 15 started grappling and wrestling as well, and found out that he loved it. Had his first MMA fight at 18.

I guess that makes him a 'failed boxer', because he didn't win whatever prestigious 14 year old title, lol. Good lord. I suppose any MMA fighter who ever competed in a single boxing match of any kind while they were 13 years old is just a 'failed boxer'. My brain hurts.
Ah STFU you standard 2+2 sociopathic nerd.
You're one of these asperger's geeks that cannot understand the concept of somebody not having the same opinion as you so you resort to name calling and the usual 2+2 horse****.

The amount of nasty little sinister nerds on this site is downright disturbing.
Which is not surprising considering David Sklansky is the owner.

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01-05-2017 , 07:13 AM
is wildly wrong

is shown to be wildly wrong

has no substantive response

decides 'shut up aspergers nerd' is the best way to proceed

k?
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01-05-2017 , 12:19 PM
Not to interrupt you two bleeding on each other, but the "failed boxer" discussion is better shifted to people with legitimate boxing backgrounds, even though their experience may be subpart by boxing standards.

Cody/Cruz was like the 9th fight recently where we've seen fights use fairly basic boxing fundamentals to win fights. It just highlights how bad most MMA striking is as a complete package of offense and defense.
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01-05-2017 , 01:15 PM
Boxing is totally different. You cannot just stand and box in MMA you would just get taken down. Good luck defending vs leg kicks. You can take principles and fundamentals but they have to be modified to account for the nature of the sport just like kickboxing, karate, and every single other discipline.
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01-05-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Boxing is totally different. You cannot just stand and box in MMA you would just get taken down. Good luck defending vs leg kicks. You can take principles and fundamentals but they have to be modified to account for the nature of the sport just like kickboxing, karate, and every single other discipline.
Right, which is why we always talk about Floyd beating Conor, they're different sports. The point is that things like head movement (CLEEEENCH!) and footwork are in dangerously short supply in MMA where they can be hugely helpful. It's largely because MMAists don't train boxing heavily as the techniques are totally compatable.

Then when you see guys who have legit boxing backgrounds, they tend to move well, maintain balance, and avoid damage because they already had those fundamentals down
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01-05-2017 , 03:21 PM
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Ah STFU you standard 2+2 sociopathic nerd.
You're one of these asperger's geeks that cannot understand the concept of somebody not having the same opinion as you so you resort to name calling and the usual 2+2 horse****.

The amount of nasty little sinister nerds on this site is downright disturbing.
Which is not surprising considering David Sklansky is the owner.

Danny just handed you you're dinner lol.
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