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07-07-2020 , 10:33 PM

#11301

bundy5

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Didn't check the weather so that makes it even closer I reckon but still England by 50 I reckon.

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07-08-2020 , 05:12 AM

#11302

xander biscuits

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match day hype

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07-08-2020 , 08:28 AM

#11303

ashley12

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Death
Taxes
Rain in England

If anything it's nice to have something normal in this COVID era

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07-08-2020 , 10:27 AM

#11304

chezlaw

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How have we lived without this excitement!

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07-08-2020 , 04:48 PM

#11305

bundy5

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I'm looking at the WI's team and thinking they have left out better batsmen than who they selected. Am I wrong?

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07-08-2020 , 11:49 PM

#11306

muttiah

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Originally Posted by bundy5

I'm looking at the WI's team and thinking they have left out better batsmen than who they selected. Am I wrong?

I believe Hetmer was injured, and Bravo didn't want to visit because of covid.

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07-09-2020 , 08:02 AM

#11307

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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WI have got through our 5 nightwatchmen. Now the real fun begins.

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07-09-2020 , 08:48 AM

#11308

KarmaDope

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I would love to know why the hell we won the toss and batted first?

Conditions perfect for bowling in England, an untested top order, Anderson back...and we bat?!

That makes about as much sense as bowling first on an absolute road in 40 degree heat.

Jason Holder must have been laughing his ass off in his head on the way back to the changing rooms.

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07-09-2020 , 11:00 AM

#11309

sixfour

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Must assume pitch is going to deteriorate like mad

Can't say it's a bad score until WI have batted, wouldn't back them to chase much more than we put on

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07-09-2020 , 11:53 PM

#11310

bundy5

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So I don't want to accuse them of rampant bias but the umpiring against the West Indies was disgraceful on day 2. How many decisions were overturned? England got some other umpires around for test 2 (and good move with the additional review but not sure the home country should be entitled to it)?

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07-10-2020 , 07:05 AM

#11311

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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****ing no ball

I hate this england team how can a bunch of such talented players play so consistently below the sum of their parts for like 6 years now. Everytime they prove they are great players capable of great things they equal it out by being goddamn abysmal half the time. ****ing pisses me off.

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07-10-2020 , 07:53 AM

#11312

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Originally Posted by bundy5

I think only one was a stinker (ball pitching outside leg lbw) which is arguably below par for a days test cricket.

The rest were marginal calls and you see why they were/weren't given.

I don't think the umpires were deliberately biased. We could have a long conversation about unconscious biases etc of course.

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07-10-2020 , 01:47 PM

#11313

Eric Clipperton

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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk

who are you including in your bunch of talented players?

i count like 3 bona fide above average test cricketers in this 11

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07-10-2020 , 08:39 PM

#11314

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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Originally Posted by Eric Clipperton

who are you including in your bunch of talented players?

i count like 3 bona fide above average test cricketers in this 11

There are plenty of talented players in England. Yes this line up was a little less experienced because of the lack of Root, Woakes and Broad but there's been plenty of talented cricketers over the last six years who have played for England and we've still been super inconsistent.

In this team I have Burns, Stokes, Anderson, Wood and Archer as established test match players, Pope who is very exciting, Buttler who is a top batsman who can't seem to hack it in the longest format and others like Sibley, Crawley and Bess finding their way in test cricket.

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07-11-2020 , 09:12 AM

#11315

Eric Clipperton

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an established test match player is different than being talented or good

burns has an average of 33 which is okay for an opener but hardly great

buttler is a decent batsman but poor gloveman

wood has a bowling average of almost 32 and has hardly ever set the world on fire

it's archer, anderson, stokes and a bunch of journeymen/unproven youngsters

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07-11-2020 , 06:09 PM

#11316

bundy5

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It won't be before too long until Roach gets replaced. You can't be less than 6 feet tall and bowling less than 80mph on flat English wickets. Only good thing is how tight he keeps it.

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07-12-2020 , 08:30 AM

#11317

bundy5

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My prediction looks pretty good atm.

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07-16-2020 , 03:51 AM

#11318

ashley12

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Jofra Archer dropped for breaking protocol lol.

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07-16-2020 , 04:46 AM

#11319

bundy5

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WTF England and rest Anderson and Wood?

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07-17-2020 , 07:09 AM

#11320

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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All this blocking is all well and good if you use it as a platform to kick on but everyone knows england will be all out for 280

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07-17-2020 , 09:59 AM

#11321

DonkDonkDonkDonk

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Ive never cheered an england wicket as much as i cheered dom sibley getting out there.

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07-17-2020 , 05:46 PM

#11322

sixfour

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If anyone does listen or has listened to Guerilla Cricket (which is clearly better than TMS), they're partnering with some random mobile app right now whereby they get some cash if you download it and use their GCRADIO signup code. Don't think you ever need to use it, so it seems pretty harmless to chuck some funds towards people spreading the gospel

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07-17-2020 , 08:38 PM

#11323

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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk

All this blocking is all well and good if you use it as a platform to kick on but everyone knows england will be all out for 280

[narrator, later that day] England 469-9 dec.

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07-18-2020 , 12:07 AM

#11324

muttiah

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Originally Posted by DonkDonkDonkDonk

England is not that good right now. Burns is not established lol, he's barely holding a place. Nobody even close to Cook's level has come through since he retired. Archer is mostly hype right now and inconsistent. Root and Stokes are pure class and Anderson is still amazing in English conditions but this is team aren't world beaters right now.