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07-14-2013 , 05:27 AM

#351

shrewd crude

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go billy... beat this malloy... show the mouth your boss because you are more so...

just a nipper coming up for a little peck...

and im loving every second minute hour bigger better stronger power...
mah boyiee bieber

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07-14-2013 , 06:20 AM

#352

BadAstronaut

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 253

Man the NLO8 hypers and bounty SNGs are funhorrible regfests. Meh. Still showing an OK profit but MAN they all play identical and the games are sooo samey.

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07-14-2013 , 06:43 AM

#353

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,418

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Originally Posted by GrimIsCool

There is actually a "make a deal" button in the Stars client. A moderator joins the table and brokers the chop negotiations and overrides the tournament payout procedure to give the determined amounts. Most big buyin or huge field MTTs end in chops.

Thanks, thought people had to do it by themselves. Googled a little, apparently the "Make a deal" button pops up when it's the FT. This is good, then Stars can chop up the money, without somebody risking to get scammed.

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07-14-2013 , 06:55 AM

#354

Macr0s_

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 217

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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster

good fold

It depends on villains range, I never played waterboa so no idea about his.
But there are villains where it could be a call.

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07-14-2013 , 07:15 AM

#355

streityboy

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,551

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Originally Posted by BadAstronaut

Man the NLO8 hypers and bounty SNGs are funhorrible regfests. Meh. Still showing an OK profit but MAN they all play identical and the games are sooo samey.

[ ] Played enough hyper games

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07-14-2013 , 07:16 AM

#356

streityboy

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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster

good fold

This. I might just run the maths because I have got soooo lazy with my calcs recently.

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07-14-2013 , 07:42 AM

#357

adecco

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 221

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Originally Posted by Macr0s_

It depends on villains range, I never played waterboa so no idea about his.
But there are villains where it could be a call.

WaterBoa prob has the lightest shoving and calling ranges of all regs, I prob wouldnt fold against him here..

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07-14-2013 , 07:53 AM

#358

billygstar

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,103

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Originally Posted by adecco

WaterBoa prob has the lightest shoving and calling ranges of all regs, I prob wouldnt fold against him here..

I wouldn't say that..although I think it is mighty close to being a call

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07-14-2013 , 07:55 AM

#359

streityboy

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Originally Posted by billygstar

I wouldn't say that..although I think it is mighty close to being a call

Right chaps. Time to do the maths. Be back in 30 mins.

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07-14-2013 , 07:59 AM

#360

billygstar

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,103

getting raped today in ht's. hoping to win so if I brick mtts I don't have -1k or worse :/

ok all you guys playing these hypers must be getting these pop ups a while after games are closing. its annoying a shell and stars doenst even know the problem

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07-14-2013 , 08:10 AM

#361

plaaynde

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,418

Managed to min cash my first PL tournament. Blew it not far after that with bad play

. Or, "I just have to look if he's bluffing".

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07-14-2013 , 08:19 AM

#362

Macr0s_

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 217

The solution is so easy, don't open sng lobbies

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07-14-2013 , 08:22 AM

#363

Brunolf

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 842

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Originally Posted by billygstar

just woke up now lollolol

I was sooooo tired I just couldn't keep em open.

well done. pretty sick I came 4th. usually 4 or 5 get paid in that. T's probably my most profitable mtt that one.

well done...shame u couldn't have negotiated a 4 way chop ha

bit annoyed with myself but I remember thinking I was tired even b4 the sat 55 started

ok run god in 215 weekly today thanks stars. I think i'm due in that 1 like I thought in the 55 and when I rains it seems to pur with jokerstars

yeah, but I don't think you could have been part of the deal. you were relatively short already 7-handed and when we got down to 5-handed you only had 4 BBs left and everyone else was pretty deep (25+BBs). That's probably why we chopped and extended the payout structure from 3 to 4 people...

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07-14-2013 , 08:27 AM

#364

Brunolf

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 842

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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster

This logic is quite flawed. It sounds like you do a lot of spite calling.

No, I don't actually. I did it in some cases to know what other regulars are doing, and since this guy is new I'd call and learn. I think there is more value in that and maybe in the dynamic that follows after our light call...

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07-14-2013 , 08:29 AM

#365

Brunolf

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 842

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Originally Posted by billygstar

I only get that if I play with the mobile version... the lobby itself doesn't seem to be the problem (at least for me, as it's definitely closed all the time)

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07-14-2013 , 08:33 AM

#366

BadAstronaut

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 253

I'm really trying to find out how to crack these NLO8 hypers. There is such crazy shove fest and light calling going on - so difficult to know where you stand. It is so mad swingy, wow. Very tilty game.

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07-14-2013 , 08:51 AM

#367

Macr0s_

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 217

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Originally Posted by Brunolf

The thing is, if villains range is tight you get zero information out of a call. Your
just pissing away huge chunks of EV, if villain pushes wide you realize it soon
enough. Generally you lose way more equity calling to wide because you overestimate
villains range, then by calling to tight because you underestimate villains range.

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07-14-2013 , 08:58 AM

#368

billygstar

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Originally Posted by Macr0s_

The solution is so easy, don't open sng lobbies

haha yeah I guess so but u have to open them to reg. I could just close em str8 away I suppose. I presume table ninja does stuff like this. mayb I wil get that.

is table ninja what u guys use or something else or noting?

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07-14-2013 , 09:20 AM

#369

billygstar

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Originally Posted by Brunolf

yeah got ya..was just joking anyways

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Originally Posted by BadAstronaut

very very tilting at times. whats ur sn?

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07-14-2013 , 09:32 AM

#370

Macr0s_

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 217

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Originally Posted by billygstar

Actually you don't need to open any lobbies to register...
Under options/multitabling options/tourney Sng/auto open tourney lobby
you can deactivate it.

And yea I'm using TN, doubles the amount of tables I can play.

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07-14-2013 , 09:57 AM

#371

BadAstronaut

journeyman

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Why...?

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07-14-2013 , 10:03 AM

#372

Brunolf

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 842

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Originally Posted by Macr0s_

well, sample size! it's not like you know what a villain is doing by seeing one hand of course

but you'll clash with regulars so often that in my opinion it is more important to know where you're at on average and this will pay off even though you waste EV in 1,2 or 5 SnGs. It's not like you make a horrible call with J992, you don't waste much in my opinion.

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07-14-2013 , 10:03 AM

#373

billygstar

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lol coz u said you'vre been playing them so just wondering.

most ppl on here that play em are all known

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07-14-2013 , 01:12 PM

#374

streityboy

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I finally got around to crunching the numbers to be more than a little surprised.

This, according to my calcs, is a +$ev call if villain is shoving a 38% range or wider in this spot.

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07-14-2013 , 01:48 PM

#375

UnnaturalDisaster

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,543

Interesting...I have him shoving from the btn 3 handed 36% overall. I would expect it to be lower than that in this particular spot. I disagree with addeco on him being the loosest reg. Yes he is loose compared to a lot of the nit regs but I mean myself, yoeyonfire, booink, angribob, billgstar, duncanmalloy and I could probably add a few more all have looser preflop games than waterboa. He probably just shoves on addeco a ton because he knows how many folds he is getting