Not a chance, Healthcare is the ultimate wedge issue this year. It's still split fairly evenly and hugely divisive. If the republican nominee backs away from repeal during the general he will loose way too much enthusiasm in his base. The only reason to not be worried about repeal is Repubs won't have 60 senate votes, that doesn't mean Romney can't completely **** up the law through executive order.

You guys really need to get over this 'enthusiasm in the base' myth. Repubs have unbridled unwavering Obamahatred which will always trump all. Look how many of the base are completely on board with the 'get Obama out at all costs, **** the economy' stated goal.

The repub base will just assume that they're laying low to win the election, then will unleash hell on Obamacare. Then when it doesn't happen they'll get butthurt for a bit, but then forget when a terrorist attack happens or someone burns a flag somewhere or something.

Also by that time a lot of them will be just about to get decent healthcare coverage for the first time ever, and once their guy has won the election the fog of cognitive dissonance hatred might clear enough for them to actually realize they're going to be better off under Obamacare.

not if mitt romney wins

K, you're delusional if you think healthcare doesn't remain an issue if Romney gets the nod. I fully expect that if the Repubs win the WH, regardless of who the nominee is, there will be a 50 state waiver immediately granted

I think it will be danced around very carefully depending on the audience. Obama is going to go bananas reminding people they're 1.5 years away from real healthcare coverage like corporate and govt workers. It will be his biggest campaign plank. Some of that will sink in with swing voters. IE - 50-year-old plumbers, waiters, etc.

Yeah, but Paul has also showed very clearly that he doesn't understand what evolution is. His quote taken from his book about why there are wars if man is supposed to be "evolving and progressing" betrays very serious confusion about what evolution is and how it works. If any poster posted it here they would be taken to task...much less go to all the work to publish a book with it in there. The fact that any scientific theory might be modified in the future does not mean that morons who don't even understand the basics of the not totally correct theories aren't morons.

*rolls eyes* IIRC, that pamphlet wasn't written by experts in the field. ACtaully, Einstein did wind up reconsidering his ideas on quantum mechanics when they were challenged by his peers.

Also, abiogenesis != evolution.

ftr, that quote was in response to 100 nazi scientists about relativity. Einstein said something to the effect, "All they need is one fact"

...which is not at all analogous to Ron Paul ignoring the consensus opinion of the overwhelming majority of biologists on evolution. Those Nazi scientists were not experts in the field. The actual experts pretty quickly adopted Einstein's ideas.

I thought it was something like this as well. But according to the wiki article, most co-authors there were not known anti-semites and it even included 6 or so Jews. It was more a bunch of people who didn't understand relativity very well talking about it. Precursor to internet message boards imo


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...ainst_Einstein

Lulz. You know how Obamacare polls, right?

Obama isn't going to talk about Obamacare that much suzzer.

For obvious reasons.

It will be easier (and more accurate) to make the case if Perry wins but the strategy will remain the same. I think Obama and Romney have pretty distinct differences in terms of their visions for the economy. And hopefully huge differences in terms of competency.

The big advantage Romney will have is the dems won't make it their singular goal to **** him in the ass.

Wanna bet it's not a major campaign plank?

Well, it'd be pretty damn ******ed for Obama to bring it up. No idea how dumb or desperate he's going to get though.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law


Fear is wearing off and realization is setting in as people get closer to having real healthcare. Latest numbers are 50 million w/o healthcare. The crappy economy could actually work a little to Obama's favor here.

Also exposing the repubs as intransigent and only looking out for he rich over the debt ceiling thing, and probably a bunch more similar stuff leading up to the election. Congress' approval is worse than Obama. Congress is the one spreading fear about Obamacare.

Everything has an arc, would be stupid to star pushing now, but in a year dems will be touting Obamacare all over the place.

never seen that quote but the interesting part is the equilibrium of the market can be analogous to this in which case Paul would be on the other side.

He jammed it up there pretty good the first two years all by himself. Even with an FDR wave of support. He did this to himself. Started off with the arrogant/incompetent way he produced the Obamacare bill and followed up with the remarkably unstimulating stimulus.

I will be quoting this.

I guess we will see if it becomes something he trumpets. I think it hurts him with independents but time will tell. I completely agree that class warfare will be a prominent campaign platform.

Lol the republicans sat in the corner and threw a fit over UHC. Jamming it up there was literally the only way it was ever going to happen. They refused to play ball on any issue that could have made it a better bill for them.

The stimulus was underwhelming but still created 2.5 million jobs and might have prevented a big contraction. (that's like 1.5% off unemployment) Stimulus is the ultimate who the hell knows how bad things might have been. Although we may be about to find out because the repubs will block everything from here on out, including tax cuts.

lol saved 2.5m jobs.

Agreed. We're going to about the 50% who don't pay any income tax pretty much nonstop until the election.

That # is from the CBO. The repubs love to quote that when they want to attack the stimulus. But go ahead and have your own angle that it's still too high.