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09-01-2017 , 07:20 PM

#55126

Land O Lakes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Implying that they aren't themselves just grifters.

Touché.

09-01-2017 , 07:25 PM

#55127

DodgerIrish

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He's their golden calf.

09-01-2017 , 07:39 PM

#55128

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Lol this can't be good for Rosey.

Quote:

Mr. Trump was back in Washington on Monday, May 8, when copies of the letter were handed out in the Oval Office to senior officials, including Mr. McGahn and Vice President Mike Pence

So they are all a bunch of lying liars huh? Shocker. Heel imo.

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09-01-2017 , 08:07 PM

#55129

6ix

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Then I have no idea what point you were making.

You were mixing up posters; that's what I meant by this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ix

09-01-2017 , 08:16 PM

#55130

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

scorching

09-01-2017 , 08:23 PM

#55131

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09-01-2017 , 08:35 PM

#55132

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Can't imagine that is much of a game changer, he already admitted that out loud I thought?

09-01-2017 , 08:37 PM

#55133

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I suppose it's different once it's on a legal document?

09-01-2017 , 08:40 PM

#55134

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Mnuchin declines to endorse putting Harriet Tubman on the $20, because of course the Trump admin wouldn't

Onion from months ago:

https://assets2.onionstatic.com/onio...mails_SCAN.pdf

09-01-2017 , 08:43 PM

#55135

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

I suppose it's different once it's on a legal document?

public record is public record

09-01-2017 , 08:44 PM

#55136

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09-01-2017 , 08:46 PM

#55137

Max Cut

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Originally Posted by 6ix

Onion from months ago:

https://assets2.onionstatic.com/onio...mails_SCAN.pdf

lol

09-01-2017 , 08:54 PM

#55138

Matty Lice

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

Yikers. I hope Trump sees that.

09-01-2017 , 08:57 PM

#55139

Matty Lice

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Watch Trump say "91% say I'm a knowledgeable, honest, steady leader! MAGA!"

09-01-2017 , 09:00 PM

#55140

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

A video somebody posted yesterday has a former(?) religious right guy giving an alternate take- they don't care that Trump is evil as long as he serves their purpose. Dude seemed remarkably rational.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

I also heard on a podcast recently that there is a theology that argues the less Christian he acts the more it is evidence of him being chosen by God. All one can say is lol religion.

I couldn't find the post but it was this video:

This is the guy, who I'd trust to be an authority on the subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer

Quote:

He became a Hollywood film director and author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels depicting life in a strict evangelical household including Portofino, Zermatt, and Saving Grandma.

While Schaeffer was a conservative, fundamentalist Christian in his youth, he has changed his views, becoming a liberal Democrat and a self-described atheist.[3][4] He currently lives north of Boston.[4]

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In 2007 Schaeffer published his autobiography, Crazy for God: How I Grew Up As One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back, in which he goes into much more detail regarding what it was like to grow up in the Schaeffer family and around L'Abri. In 2011, he published another memoir, called Sex, Mom, and God, in which he discusses growing up with his parents and their role in the rise of the American religious right and argues that the root of the "insanity and corruption" of this force in US politics, and specifically of the religious right's position on abortion, is a fear of female sexuality.[7]

09-01-2017 , 09:01 PM

#55141

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Is that WSJ story the first saying what was in the draft letter?

09-01-2017 , 09:05 PM

#55142

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

lol

Here's the entire series in case it hasn't been seen:

http://www.theonion.com/trumpdocuments

09-01-2017 , 09:08 PM

#55143

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

Is that WSJ story the first saying what was in the draft letter?

nyt only went this far:

The letter, drafted in May, was met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that its angry, meandering tone was problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter. Among Mr. McGahn’s concerns were references to private conversations the president had with Mr. Comey, including times when the F.B.I. director told Mr. Trump he was not under investigation in the F.B.I.’s continuing Russia inquiry.

09-01-2017 , 09:15 PM

#55144

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@6ix yeah, Schaeffer is the guy. I never heard of him. Unkempt, in his robe, I thought he must be nuts til he started talking. I ended up watching the whole thing. It was like that Susan Boyle singing moment.

09-01-2017 , 09:22 PM

#55145

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

nyt only went this far:

The letter, drafted in May, was met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that its angry, meandering tone was problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter. Among Mr. McGahn’s concerns were references to private conversations the president had with Mr. Comey, including times when the F.B.I. director told Mr. Trump he was not under investigation in the F.B.I.’s continuing Russia inquiry.

They also called it a "lengthy diatribe"

09-01-2017 , 09:32 PM

#55146

6ix

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

lol

09-01-2017 , 09:36 PM

#55147

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

They also called it a "lengthy diatribe"

Mr. Trump ordered Mr. Miller to draft a letter, and dictated his unfettered thoughts. Several people who saw Mr. Miller’s multi-page draft described it as a “screed.”