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Originally Posted by chytry
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Good take by Sam.
Many here will disagree but I enjoy most of Sam's podcast episodes. His recent one with Lawrence Wright was especially good though that's in part due to the fact that Wright is a very interesting person imo.
I don't agree with everything but he at least makes me reevaluate my opinions after hearing him.
Ok, srs question, is he misunderstood or is he a raging Islamophobe?
As a point of reference I'll say Bill Maher is misunderstood and I only know this from watching his show. Basically, 1, he's equally derisive towards all religions and, 2, the nature of the show doesn't really allow him to rehash all the premises each time Islam is brought up and make sure everyone is on the same page with the same context, so I don't really fault anybody for thinking Maher is a big fat Islamaphobe. The infamous episode that had the spat between him, Affleck, and Harris is a testament to this.
Reading that Harris blog post feels the same way. It's part common sense, duh, and part nonsensical gibberish but overall feels like I'm jumping in the middle of a conversation. Am I supposed to read his book or at least read all his earlier blog entries?
He's had some lolbad takes of interpreting Quranic scripture but I kinda want to give him another chance.
This is really troublesome:
5. If liberals who refuse to speak honestly on these topics continue to march with Islamists, denigrate free speech, and oppose the work of the real reformers in the Muslim community, they will only further provoke and empower Trump. And Trump, in turn, will empower Islamists the world over by threatening the civil liberties of all Muslims within his reach.
Every debate or argument I've had with an Islamaphobe included the notion, "If you want to just say BOO ISIS=BAD or BOO RADICAL ISLAMISIC TERRORISM=BAD you're not gonna get any pushback." There's not this secret cabal of ISIS supporters lurking about and quite frankly that bolded line is sophomoric nonsense.
p.s. Basically, he seems like he has an identical stance as mine but then will drop these lines that read like he's the exact opposite I'm arguing against. It's bizarre.