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01-08-2019 , 01:46 PM

#1776

m_reed05

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I'll predict Trump goes off script tonight and brings up the national emergency scenario but doesn't actually declare it. "People are saying I could declare a national emergency, I have the power to do it."

01-08-2019 , 01:47 PM

#1777

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

your post was stupid and only served the purpose of perpetuating a flawed and ridiculous economic narrative that only serves to aid the greediest and most deranged of ****s in this country

LMAO

01-08-2019 , 01:52 PM

#1778

+rep_lol

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the qualifier "to be fair" lends a presupposition of legitimacy to the following statement as a contradiction/refutation of something said previously

whatevs

01-08-2019 , 01:56 PM

#1779

uDevil

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If the networks even give them the time, one problem with Schumer/Pelosi doing Trump response is they don't have it in their range to call him a mother****er.

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/stat...44876880240641

01-08-2019 , 01:58 PM

#1780

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

So let's say Trump declares a National Emergency tomorrow night and orders DoD to start building the wall. Let's play this out...

California and New Mexico (border states, Dem gov, Dem AG) sue immediately, right? I assume they would have standing?

US House sues immediately, right? Dems control it and he'd be usurping their power of the purse.

I assume California leads the charge in the Ninth Circuit, and New Mexico might wait a day or two to allow that. Ninth Circuit likely immediately orders Trump to stop while the courts hear the case. I would imagine it would then be fast tracked to SCOTUS?

My guess, and maybe I'm being really naive here, would be that Roberts would choose the case that makes it the easiest to rule against Trump with the least partisanship, because he cares about his legacy and the court's standing in the eyes of the American public. My guess is that either 6 or 7 justices would rule against Trump (Liberals, Roberts, Alito and/or Gorsuch). But again, maybe I'm being really naive?

The thing is, I could easily see Trump pulling an Andrew Jackson and telling the Supreme Court to go ahead and try to enforce their ruling, then ordering DoD again to build the wall. From there, the chaos would be insane.

If he declares a SOE then what's to stop him from arresting the heads of government in CA and NM and imprisoning them 'until the crisis is over'?

Answer:

Spoiler:

01-08-2019 , 01:58 PM

#1781

WichitaDM

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Ya Schumer/Pelosi doing the response is not good. Dems gonna Dem though.

01-08-2019 , 01:59 PM

#1782

JordanIB

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Response better have lots of "Trump said X. That is a lie. Trump said Y. That is a lie. Trump said Z. That's the biggest lie of all the ones he told."

Of course then when Schumosi have a single digit wrong in their rebuttal, the media will BOTH SIDES it all day tomorrow and make them out to be as inaccurate as Trump. Did the Democrats' immigration response just help Trump's re-election chances?, by Chris Cillizza.

01-08-2019 , 02:06 PM

#1783

alazo1985

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The POG politics thread is interesting there are actually Trump supporters there

01-08-2019 , 02:07 PM

#1784

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alazo1985

The POG politics thread is interesting there are actually Trump supporters there

I assume by interesting you mean impossible to read due to the shear level of stupidity.

01-08-2019 , 02:13 PM

#1785

eyebooger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alazo1985

The POG politics thread is interesting there are actually Trump supporters there

There's only one now.

01-08-2019 , 02:14 PM

#1786

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by JordanIB

Gah, no. Less factchecking Trump, more “here’s how we’re gonna help Americans.” idgaf how many Pinocchios Kessler awards Trump.

01-08-2019 , 02:15 PM

#1787

All-In Flynn

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

shear level of stupidity.

01-08-2019 , 02:16 PM

#1788

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Gah, no. Less factchecking Trump, more “here’s how we’re gonna help Americans.” idgaf how many Pinocchios Kessler awards Trump.

Yeah, this. Like anyone, his supporters included, don't know he's FOS. Supporters don't care, detractors already know.

01-08-2019 , 02:35 PM

#1789

Clovis8

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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

It’s called a typo. At this point, you are so obsessed with me I have to assume you are in love or something. I’m flattered.

01-08-2019 , 02:38 PM

#1790

Huehuecoyotl

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Humm....

01-08-2019 , 02:41 PM

#1791

Trolly McTrollson

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oops

01-08-2019 , 02:46 PM

#1792

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WichitaDM

Ya Schumer/Pelosi doing the response is not good. Dems gonna Dem though.

they just need to bring that video clip of trump saying he'll take responsibility for the government shutdown, but you know they won't.

01-08-2019 , 02:46 PM

#1793

markksman

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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

( twitter | raw text )

Wharton tuition just leaped another 300%.

01-08-2019 , 02:47 PM

#1794

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Modesto's not a sanctuary city.

Sometimes his write ups with the picture help explain subtle details but this time it's just gibberish

The Democrats are building their own wall. It’s a growing wall of big government statism, endless war, globalism, and higher taxes that race toward socialism.

It’s a wall that blocks us from our liberties including our right to own a gun and the right to engage in free speech. It’s a wall that censors and controls minds by means of lying, fake news corporate media. It’s a wall that protects a massively corrupt Deep State from receiving justice.

Nancy Pelosi, tear down your despicable, fascist, blue wall and allow our president to construct a legitimate one along our southern border. We need a wall that protects us from an endless stream of illegal aliens coming here for free stuff as well as criminals and terrorists who come in to wreak havoc on us all.

So... not really a wall then?

01-08-2019 , 02:47 PM

#1795

LostOstrich

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lol, how ****ing bad must Manafort's lawyers be

01-08-2019 , 02:48 PM

#1796

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Humm....

NO COLLUSION

01-08-2019 , 02:50 PM

#1797

champstark

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second part was more important IMO

01-08-2019 , 02:50 PM

#1798

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

I assume by interesting you mean impossible to read due to the shear level of stupidity.

This is correct

01-08-2019 , 02:52 PM

#1799

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

It’s called a typo.

Yes, but it's emblematic of a deeper truth.

01-08-2019 , 02:52 PM

#1800

ScreaminAsian

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Veselnitskaya, Russian in Trump Tower Meeting, Is Charged in Case That Shows Kremlin Ties

The money-laundering case was not directly related to the Trump Tower meeting. But a federal indictment returned in Manhattan seemed to confirm that Ms. Veselnitskaya had deep ties to senior Russian government officials.

The charges stem from the Justice Department’s 2013 civil investigation into the role that some of Ms. Veselnitskaya’s clients — Prevezon Holdings Ltd. and its owner, Denis P. Katsyv — played in a scheme to launder ill-gotten money through New York real estate purchases.

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The indictment says Ms. Veselnitskaya secretly cooperated with a senior Russian prosecutor in drafting the “intentionally misleading” response, then filed it in federal court in Manhattan.

“In doing so, Veselnitskaya obstructed the civil proceeding,” the indictment said. She is charged with one count of obstruction of justice.

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