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06-21-2016 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
That social problem of gays marrying has also proved a tough nut to crack...
It's been said a dozen times. When hundreds of bombs were going off a year legislatures passed laws to restrict availability to bomb materials. Bombings went down. The idea that this is some unstoppable force impervious to reason and logic doesn't hold up.
06-21-2016 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...mbia_v._Heller

AFAIK there doesn't seem to be an actual direct logical connection with which guns are allowed and militias.
And in the same decision he said the question of automatic weapons was unanswered...
06-21-2016 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...mbia_v._Heller

AFAIK there doesn't seem to be an actual direct logical connection with which guns are allowed and militias.
This appears to be one of those decisions where they looked at the consequences and worked their way backwards.
06-21-2016 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
well duh they havent. i think the the smarter ones realize that things like the whisky rebellion make it obvious how these godlike founders really felt about grassroots uprisings (spoiler:being exclusively white free men of the propertied classes, they werent big fans).
I think more about if guns are just for militias and not citizens what happens if that would be enforced. Ya all better use baby steps if you win that old argument...
06-22-2016 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sweep single
15 year old boy accidentally kills himself taking a selfie with a loaded gun...JFC

http://fox2now.com/2016/06/07/15-yea...selfie-police/
i hear that's on him
06-22-2016 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
Sure, nice chessmate. Too bad SCOTUS > Reddit.
Yes, it is too bad.
06-22-2016 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
No need for gun control, real problem is mental health

Gun suicides? DGAF, those ppl deserve to die

GUN NUT LOGIC
Anyone that disagrees with me is a racist sexist homophobe that needs to be ridiculed by me from my parent's basement.

Liberal logic
06-22-2016 , 04:13 AM
parents basement is such a fresh burn steve.
06-22-2016 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
i hear that's on him
who else would it be on? maybe instagram?

we were all 15 once, some of you may make it to that age soon. idk the makeup of this forum but 15 seems probably in the low to mid range from the omg awesome posts i see.

but, everyone i know who has ever used a gun has been taught very thoroughly how they work. where i'm from 15 year olds have usually been exposed to guns for more than half their lives already. If you take the safety off while a bullet is in the chamber and pull the trigger, it will shoot.

This is no different than someone who dies during auto erotic asphyxiation imo, would that be his fault? or the rope company for making rope that works too much like rope? obviously if the gun malfunctioned then its the fault of the manufacturer, but barring that, it seems like the poor kid ****ed up real bad trying to look cool on social media.....soo ya i think its on him.
06-22-2016 , 04:50 AM
my hetero white male patriarchal privilege status afforded me the good fortune of brandishing multiple guns from a young age. i've never shot anyone nor come close, and am certainly safer for the education i received.

victims will remain victims, it feels great.
and white knghts gon white knight...usually to get girls, which is so vile and hilarious i dont even know where to start.
06-22-2016 , 05:03 AM
why would being for gun control get anyone laid?
06-22-2016 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
why would being for gun control get anyone laid?
people who are for gun control or outright bans, tend to be part of the progressive left. the progressive left has taken up the cause of acceptance!! of their own views and nothing else.

if you believe it is an american right to own firearms, then you are labeled a gun nut, most likely a racist homophobe and definitely an idiot.

meanwhile, progressives fight for feminism, the lgbt cause, equality for all and anti islamophobia. there is even a group called "queers for palestine". How all these groups got linked up is beyond me, but what we have now are lesbians and feminists fighting for islam (im sure someone has tried this, go be a lesbian in saudi arabia, or a woman for that matter. it won;t workout that well i've heard).

the people who tend to be progressive liberals are women, people from the lgbt community, upper middle class white guys and minorities. some of the upper middle class white guys are in it for the girls.

but to answer your question directly, i have no clue and it shouldnt.
06-22-2016 , 05:40 AM
one of the biggest gunnits i know is engaged to a Sanders supporter
06-22-2016 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
one of the biggest gunnits i know is engaged to a Sanders supporter
thats awesome. i'm no psychologist but i have a feeling it has something to do with women wanting to be with people who make them feel safe sometimes, if not often. which makes the white knights even more laughable. what they will end up with is an echo chamber and a wife/boss.
06-22-2016 , 07:59 AM
i highly highly doubt she feels safer due to him.keeping an m4 under the bed. needless to say im excited to see how this marriage goes.
06-22-2016 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by romdom
but, everyone i know who has ever used a gun has been taught very thoroughly how they work. where i'm from 15 year olds have usually been exposed to guns for more than half their lives already. If you take the safety off while a bullet is in the chamber and pull the trigger, it will shoot.
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Many times a teenaged boy will find a gun such as a semi-automatic pistol in his home and, after taking out the ammunition clip, assume that the gun is unloaded. He then points the pistol at his best friend and playfully pulls the trigger, killing the other lad with the bullet that was already in the chamber. "People say, 'Teach kids not to pull the trigger,' but kids will do it," Hemenway says. In a 2001 study, for example, small groups of boys from 8 to 12 years old spent 15 minutes in a room where a handgun was hidden in a drawer. More than two-thirds discovered the gun, more than half the groups handled it, and in more than a third of the groups someone pulled the trigger —despite the fact that more than 90 percent of the boys in the latter groups had received gun-safety instruction.
http://harvardmagazine.com/2004/09/d...he-barrel.html

Being exposed to guns at an early age increased the chance they would accidentally shoot someone, not decreased it. Just because you beat the odds on a hand, don't think everyone can.
06-22-2016 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by romdom
who else would it be on? maybe instagram?

we were all 15 once, some of you may make it to that age soon. idk the makeup of this forum but 15 seems probably in the low to mid range from the omg awesome posts i see.

but, everyone i know who has ever used a gun has been taught very thoroughly how they work. where i'm from 15 year olds have usually been exposed to guns for more than half their lives already. If you take the safety off while a bullet is in the chamber and pull the trigger, it will shoot.

This is no different than someone who dies during auto erotic asphyxiation imo, would that be his fault? or the rope company for making rope that works too much like rope? obviously if the gun malfunctioned then its the fault of the manufacturer, but barring that, it seems like the poor kid ****ed up real bad trying to look cool on social media.....soo ya i think its on him.
How about on the people that gave a loaded gun to a 15 year old?

"Hey son, you can't legally drink, smoke, drive, or vote. Here, have a machine designed specifically to deal death to play with. I can't imagine anything goes wrong."

You say above that you had years of gun training etc. I'd make a pretty good wager this kid did too. All the training in the world can't stop a bullet being fired into your dome though
06-22-2016 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Here's a policy your side was able to get behind. Congress decided it would be a great idea to block the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from studying the underlying causes of gun violence. The American Medical Association is fighting them on this.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-0...h-gun-violence
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
Don't paint it as us vs them, we're individuals, I dont' agree with that policy obviously.
Late to the party, but looooool at this statement, there is literally nothing you have posted in this thread that would even indicate you don't agree with the ban on CDC gun research, let alone that it should be obvious to everyone.
06-22-2016 , 10:15 AM
I've been hearing that 92% of Americans want more gun control regulations. Are there real poll numbers anywhere?
06-22-2016 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
i highly highly doubt she feels safer due to him.keeping an m4 under the bed. needless to say im excited to see how this marriage goes.
Yikes. An M4 seems suboptimal for home defense.
06-22-2016 , 10:25 AM
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...un-background/

Also

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...orlando-attack

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About 92 percent of those surveyed said they wanted expanded background checks, and 87 percent said they would support a ban on owning guns for felons or people with mental health problems. The poll also found that 85 percent of respondents said they would ban people on federal watchlists from buying guns.
06-22-2016 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by True North
Late to the party, but looooool at this statement, there is literally nothing you have posted in this thread that would even indicate you don't agree with the ban on CDC gun research, let alone that it should be obvious to everyone.
Well, BitchiBee says he likes to donate to the NRA. Which means he's financially supporting those kinds of policies directly. It's just frustrating to argue this debate. The gun advocates generally aren't arguing in good faith and they don't have a very good understanding of the Constitution. Then they want to make it about some super technical detail of guns or some pedantic loophole (there's no such thing as an assault rifle!). Similarly, BitchiBee and others have been criticizing Hillary for taking money from supposed "gay-hating" states while he is literally launching into a frenzy of hate against transgender people. He's not arguing in good faith. So it's an exercise in patience and futility trying to make this debate most of the time.

Then he comes in and talks as if he gives a rip about depression and suicide among transgender people. But he's literally just trying to make an argument that transgender people are less than. He doesn't give a rip about LGBT equality. And we have to run around in circles all this time while the logic is right there, staring us in the face.
06-22-2016 , 10:56 AM
Given how hated NRA is, I wondered why nobody would start anti-NRA which would just recommend to vote completely opposite that NRA does.

Then I realized that anyone starting that would get shot. But by good terrorist.
06-22-2016 , 11:11 AM
The NRA is as large as it is mostly because of services it provides. People become members to buy stuff, take classes, subscribe to magazines and get discounts.

There are no issues only lobbies that are even close to as big as the NRA in membership. Other big interest groups like AARP (the biggest) are also involved in products and discounts.
06-22-2016 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
parents basement is such a fresh burn steve.
About the same as "that's on them"

      
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